Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD

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Herbert
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Article posted 09 Mar 05 04:26

CeBIT update

 

CeBIT update

Strategies

From all the press conferences and the discussions we had at CeBIT,
there’s a clear difference in strategies between the two camps. HD-DVD
camp considers its format is mature, and after the last technical details
are sorted out in June, production will start full speed. For instance,
NEC plans to sell its first HD-DVD drive this summer (ROM only),
followed by a drive supporting HD-DVD-R and HD-DVD-RW by the
end of 2005.

On the other hand, Blu-ray camp is still working on the BD format and
fixing some compatibility problems. They consider that the high definition
market will be marginal in 2005, and therefore prefer to take their time to
perfect their products. The target is to obtain a mature and more performant
format for 2006, where HDTV is believed to get a real start with the World Cup.

Two different formats – two different marketing strategies. While the companies
around HD-DVD will start on the market with players first, Blu-ray is focusing
their efforts on the burner devices. This seems to be logical when we consider
that some of Hollywoods most important studios are also main backers of HD-DVD.

Prices

Depending on whom you talk to, the manufacturing cost of BD discs is
between 2 and 4 times the price of HD-DVD discs. However, this takes
into account the initial cost of the new manufacturing machines (which
are needed because of the 0.1 mm technology), and it is expected that
this multiplication factor will decrease with time. Note also that we’re
talking here about the manufacturing cost of the discs, which represents
only a few percents of its final retail price.

One of the issues we had with HD-DVD was that the -RW format was
completely different from the -R and -ROM formats (see the article).
It seems the reason for this choice was that HD-DVD camp wanted
to achieve higher performances (storage capacity and access times)
with rewritable media than with the other two formats, thus they borrowed
some technologies from DVD-RAM. According to NEC, these differences
will not cause any extra cost for the customer.
  
Copy Protection

One of the issues we had with both copy-protection mechanisms was
the single player revocation scheme, which allows content distributors to
blacklist a given player model. It turned out that drive manufacturers are
also quite annoyed by the practical implications of this scheme, which
was apparently imposed to them by Holywood Majors. At the moment,
it is still not known if and how this feature will be used.

After the HD-DVD press seminar it was clear that copy protection is
still a key concern for HD content providers. One major obstacle to prevent
HD content piracy is of course PC drives, since data can be copied from
the optical media to the hard drive. The HD-DVD camp is well aware of this
problem and explained that they are currently working with PC manufacturers
to define a new PC architecture which could guarantee the security of HD
content. MemoryTech, a company involved in disc manufacturing , even
explained that they were working on a new copy protection scheme combining
the BCA (Burst Curring Area, the bar code in the center of some discs)
with an internet connection.

We couldn’t get any definitive statement from the BD camp whether
they would stick to their own BD-CPS scheme or whether they would
adopt AACS. This is still to be decided as part of the finalization of
the BD format.

Lens developments

Samsung Electronics, a board director of Blu-ray told us of developments
regarding the laser lens. As you may know the writing and reading of BD,
DVD and CD requires an optical unit which contains 2 laser lenses, one
for reading and writing of the red laser technologies and one for reading
and writing of Blu-ray. The companies are now on the way to develop a laser
lens which is capable of red and blue laser technologies. This will make
it possible to manufacture much smaller devices, which is a requirement for
portable player and notebook drives.

27 Comments

tanile
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Posted on: 09 Mar 05 07:18
good article, thanks guys
japroach
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Posted on: 10 Mar 05 05:24
Could you add a "Next" button on your articles? thanks
Kenshin
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Posted on: 12 Mar 05 21:05
Another great article, thanks!
Seer
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Posted on: 16 Mar 05 12:27
Good article & explanation, thanks! Maybe the argumentation with regard to disc cost would need some extra analysis: To make a (HD)-DVD disc you need two moulding machines and an extra process to glue the two 0.6mm substrates together, which means you loose valuable seconds. Also the HD-DVD disc tolerances for flatness & thickness are extremely tight (twice more critical than that of normal DVD). To make a Blu-ray disc you need only 1 moulding machine and you don't have to glue the two substrates, which means less production time. In fact a Blu-ray disc can be compared with an up-side-down CD disc... which is very simple to make. As for disc tolerances of Blu-ray, these are comparable with normal DVD, resulting in an much more controllable production process. This means better yields and that future high-speed discs are easier to make. All in all, you might be able to upgrade DVD lines to make HD-DVD's, but in time the mass-volume production process itself will be less expensive for Blu-ray.
H3rB3i
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Posted on: 16 Mar 05 12:41
Very interesting, can you tell me your source (PM or e-mail if you don't want to post here) thx
guest
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Posted on: 24 Apr 07 02:38
Professional writers, who are interested only in clearly communicating their message, not in showing that they know more about their own subject than the reader, define their terms and acronyms.
guest
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Posted on: 15 Sep 07 13:47
i got all the information
guest
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Posted on: 16 Sep 07 13:33
seäoig pr'x9p ny
guest
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Posted on: 23 Sep 07 00:36
Scratches seem a risk with HD-DVD. If present disc substrate is used and density is higher, scratches will have greater effect. Cost of -R media is much cheaper for Blu-Ray per GB. (Wikipedia comparison article)
guest
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Posted on: 16 Oct 07 06:29
A far good explaination ....
guest
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Posted on: 21 Oct 07 06:56
So, the bottom line is that the only real difference between blu-ray and hd-dvd is that you can store more information on a blu-ray than on an hd-dvd? Which in turn can result in using higher quality video (if we are talking about video) on a blu-ray, which if using standard video formats on an hd-dvd will result in both mediums storing the same amount of data? Synopsis; We have a 64mb usb drive (hd-dvd), we place two 32mb files on IT. Next, we have a 128mb usb drive, (blu-ray) and we place two 64mb files on it. The end result is, on the hd-dvd we have placed two files, and on the blu-ray we have ALSO placed two files on IT. The end result is that the only difference between blu-ray and hd-dvd is storage capacity. This is correct? I may just be curious cause a lot of what I read states that blu-ray is better than hd-dvd. I'm aware of the cost increase for blu-ray is because of the tailoring that must be made to manufacture this medium. I'm not sure if there are any other features of blu-ray that hd-dvd doesn't have, but if there is,please enlighten me. Thanks - Vorp
guest
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Posted on: 22 Nov 07 10:33
Good ! Tnx. Is it obvious that image resolution is the same ? Not clear to me.
guest
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Posted on: 22 Nov 07 20:28
Good review. I begin to understand from reading it. My guess is the ease of manufacturer pretty much guarantees the future of blue-ray.
guest
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Posted on: 11 Mar 08 02:27
This may be a silly question, but, would it be possible to create some sort of software to enable the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive to read Blu Ray discs?
guest
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Posted on: 31 Mar 08 02:57
We have an old proverb, that says: The sound of drom is pleasant rom faraway. It is a very goog article. At the end everybody thinks of more capacity, but what about the negetive points. What happens if in the future consumers have to spend more. (capacity) verses (security against scratch or other damages and so on)which means more costs for consumers and more profit for manufcturers. It may seem nothing, but it is actually a lot.
guest
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Posted on: 07 Aug 08 13:09
SSS
guest
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Posted on: 09 Aug 08 09:24
complications are there but usefull
guest
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Posted on: 11 Aug 08 17:16
Please can someone tell me if our regular DVD's will play on a Blu-ray player?
Blu-rayFreak
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Posted on: 11 Aug 08 18:08
Yes, your regular DVD's will play on a Blu-ray player... All you have to do is read the box.
guest
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Posted on: 14 Oct 08 10:23
Please tell me if our regular DVD's will play on a Blu-ray player?
guest
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Posted on: 14 Oct 08 13:29
what happens if blu ray goes defunct...will hd dvd come back. I need to know ASAP
guest
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Posted on: 16 Nov 08 20:14
no tp mamy nowy format, tylko po co ten podział na 3 strefy?
guest
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Posted on: 30 Nov 08 19:11
Storage capacity is a very big deal. Especially when your talking about a 66% increase. This means longer movies can fit on the disk or a smaller compression ratio (better picture quality) for the same content. I hate changing disks on my laser disk player...... As far as data storage goes, the added capacity means less disks for backups, bigger games etc.. and a longer time before we have to upgrade to X-RAY disks or whatever. On a side note. I am looking forward to the advantages Blue ray can bring once it is adoped. For tv shows I dont really see an advantage to high definition over dvd. But, blue ray being able to also use the same data format as dvd means that we can now have an entire season of a telivision show in DVD quality on one disk. Much more convienent for the consumer and cheaper to produce in packaging and number of disks. With upscaling players, the quality will be better than standard DVD also. All those chages that George lucas made to the Star Wars series is not a problem. You can store all the different versions and switch between them on the fly to see the differences. The possibilities are endless.
rustmag
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Posted on: 23 Dec 08 18:19
I bought my wife an HD DVD movie for Christmas thinking that she could view it on our regular DVD player until we could afford an HD player. Was I wrong? Also, Will a Blue Ray disc play on a regular DVD player? Finally, if the answer to the above questions are yes, will the viewing quality be as good as watching a regular DVD?
guest
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guest
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Posted on: 11 May 09 17:55
that was a good assignment. i think whoever wrote that is the best.
guest
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