CATS vs. Home-made scans

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Jan70
Senior Administrator
Article posted 21 May 05 21:49

Test Disc #6

 

Test Disc #6:


The sixth test disc is a That’s Write! DVD-R media:

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:VANGUARD]
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Disc & Book Type :       [DVD-R] – [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name :      [Vanguard Disc Inc.]
Manufacturer ID :        [VANGUARD]
Disc Application Code :  [Unrestricted Use : Consumer Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2x , 4x]
                         [6x And Higher Might Not Always Be Detectable]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)]
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** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh – Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00  02 f7 0e 0b 77 88 70 00   .@….R…..w.p.
0010 : 03 56 41 4e 47 55 41 00  04 52 44 00 00 00 00 00   .VANGUA..RD…..
0020 : 05 aa a2 22 22 20 01 00  06 0b 0f 12 66 66 80 00   …”" ……ff..
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00  08 01 1b 0b 0f 08 08 00   …………….
0040 : 09 55 09 10 0b 90 88 00  0a 80 88 80 88 80 10 00   .U…………..
0050 : 0b 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  0c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   …………….
0060 : 0d 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   …………….
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[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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AudioDev CATS test results:

Disc id: DVD-R THAT´S WRITE

Disc Manufacturer ID: VANGUARD

 

Analysis of CATS results:

This disc has several critical parameters out of the specification limits. At the end of the disc the Bottom Jitter exceeds 19%, which is more than twice the maximum allowed value. The Reflectivity (R14H) is quite low and sometimes just below the minimum value, but this is not much of a problem. On the other hand, the Asymmetry ratio reaches ‘“20, which means that the HF signal is extremely deteriorated. Not only the data are damaged but we see that the Radial Error (Radial2) is increasing a lot at the end of the disc, which means that the drive also has more and more difficulties following the track near the end of the disc. As a result, the PI errors are very high and some POF occur in this region.

Our home-made test results:

Scanned with KProbe and Lite-On SHOW-1633S

Scanned with CD-speed and Philips DVDR1640P

Drive Info

 

ID:1 PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A V1.05 (#101824)

Test Settings

 

Read Speed:

2X CLV

   

Test Interval Length:

High Accuracy

Test Result

 

Disc Info:

CD_SPEED_DATA_TEST_B DVD-R, 4488 MB (CD_SPEED_DATA_TEST_B) VANGUARD

   
 

Avg

Max

Total

 

PIE

7.10

1149

992789

 

POF

-

-

739

 
 

Test Duration

 

1:19:38

 

Drive Info

 

ID:1 PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A V1.05 (#101824)

Test Settings

 

Read Speed:

2X CLV

Test Result

 

Disc Info:

CD_SPEED_DATA_TEST_B DVD-R, 4488 MB (CD_SPEED_DATA_TEST_B)

       

Test Duration

 

0:30:06

 

Comparison
Results

Average
PIE
sum 8

Max
PIE
sum 8

Average
PIF
sum 1

Max
PIF
 sum 1

POF

AudioDev
CATS

310.1

1664

7.7

208

-

Lite-On
K-Probe

107.6

1353

12.72

209

-

Philips
CD-Speed

(25.69)

(164)

(0.14)

-

(8212)

Plextor
Plextools

(7.1)

(1149)

-

-

(739)

CATS vs. drives results:

From all our drives only the Lite-ON was able to successfully complete the scan of this disc. The worse result was obtained by the Philips drive, which gave up after only 2.8 GB. Note that in this case the CATS has been able to keep reading the disc at very high bottom jitter values, which means that the Pulstec drive also has a very good PLL and that the failure of disc #4 was due to another problem. This is another example of disc which can be read by the CATS and not by some drives.

Note on the CATS results that PIE SUM8 reaches 1664 and PIF SUM1 reaches 208, which are the theoretical maximum values : at the same time, we see on the graph that POF goes to 1 and stays there, which means that all ECC blocks are bad, which is perfectly consistent. The ‘209′ reported by KProbe also corresponds to a completely bad ECC block and should be a ‘208′, but was probably caused by a sampling problem. This is a good example of the better measuring accuracy of CATS systems.

 

Head over to the next page for the conclusion…


9 Comments

G@M3FR3@K
Posts: 10654
Posted on: 23 May 05 09:02
Thanks for the article guys, interesting read. What I find especially interesting is that when a disc is good (or bad), CATS and the consumer drives all agree. That's a good thing because now we know that tools like CD-DVD Speed, kProbe and PlexTools are not useless.
fanjeri
Posts: 8
Posted on: 25 May 05 15:52
Well, interesting test, but you´re missing one point. There´s a reason for standards and specifications. It doesn´t matter, that there are many drives which outperforme a 1996 standard DVD ROM drive, if the one you have to use somewhere else doesn´t. It´s great, if my new burner handles even discs, which reflecting to the standard, are completly f* ->aehm
jlbooth
Posts: 4
Posted on: 02 Jan 06 06:17
Am on low fixed income - after spending heaps of money on different brand blank media,and now have bought a Pioneer 2nd drive as Liteon is often blamed for poor media burning and 18 months of researching this subject on the Net, have no faith in DVD technology at all. Feel that manufacturers are not doing the R&D, but rather foisting incompetent and unreliable technology onto the buying public - I have decided against going hard drive or Disc for my camcorder. Can only afford one in my lifetime, so am going backwards to DV tape. I also know many people who are so confused and have heard negative things about new technology such as unrelaibility, incompatability, and lack of longevity- no to mention that with so many avenues to go down, sales people do not know a lot anymore and conflicting sales views confuse the public even more. It is time that the retailers told the manufacturers - NO - give me products to sell that will please my constomers and I know of at least one major large shop that specialises in Entertainment systems that refuse to sell anybodies DVD recorders due to the problems aforementioned. This technology has been released too early and the manufacturers do not even know enough so their help lines are often of little help or incorrect advice. Furthermore to have your pics put onto disc at great cost (commerciallly) and then find that a few years after, some of those pics are lost with more degrading quickly over time- I htink that perhaps the old ghastly VHS tape may be better for longetivity especially with consumer copied material.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 25 Dec 07 16:38
Attention commercial department To whom it may concern --------- Dear sir I am Majid baba Ali from Iran, we are in the market to purchase of CD in total quantity in 90 million pieces. that would be our pleasure to be have your offer in this matter. Thank you
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 08 Jan 08 04:31
Majid, will you invest in my start-up bank in South Africa? Give me 100,000 USD and you will earn .99% of the profits. No, I'm just kidding. Spam elsewhere you loser.
ricoman
Posts: 1252
Posted on: 20 Jul 08 00:38
Hey John (Loser) Doe, you call HIM a loser? Is that the way you get your kicks, insulting strangers while hiding behind a phony name. I think that pretty much defines the term "Loser".
Culturecide
Posts: 1
Posted on: 03 Aug 08 08:00
ricoman's got a point. If he was a spammer he wouldn't have been asking for a quote on how much 90 million CD-rs would cost. Hell, atleast he's on the right track with Taiyo Yuden
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 29 Jan 09 19:23
*sigh* well i went to this site hoping to get REVIEW on this cd but all i get is a forum discussion. so majid, john doe, ricoman, and culturecide are ALL losers in my book. time to look elswhere!
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 09 May 09 02:40
very good software.but if you do not restrain yourself you end up with a hard disk full of junk. I bought radio tracker last year 2008. and would recomend it.

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