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Copying DVDs, the Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Posted 04 July 2003 19:04 CEST by G@M3FR3@K


 
Imagine this: you have just bought your very first DVD-recorder, you come home and you want to start backing-up your expensive DVD titles so that you don't have to worry about your kids anymore, who seem to think that DVD discs make excellent Frisbees. So, you put your original DVD title in your recorder only to find out that;
  1. it's protected against ripping and thus copying the contents of the disc to your hard disk doesn't work, and
  2. even if you do succeed in ripping the contents of the disc, the files don't fit on your recordable DVD since the latter can only hold 4.4GB of data while the original DVD is more than 7GB in size.

Besides the ongoing DVD format war between DVD-RW (minus) and DVD+RW (plus), which is causing confusion amongst consumers, these two problems are very common and are causing even more confusion. The first problem is easily bypassed (we'll get back to this later on this page) but the second problem is more interesting. Since the original DVDs are often larger than 4.4GB (the maximum amount of data that a DVD-recordable disc can hold) you're left with three options:

  1. you can copy the main movie only, with only one audio stream and only one or even no subtitles, or
  2. you can split the original movie onto two (or even more) DVD-recordable discs, or
  3. you can copy the entire DVD but the movie will have to be compressed (transcoded) to fit on the DVD-Recordable disc.

In this article we're going to take a look at some of the software packages that are available today with which you can copy your DVD movies. We'll take a look at the produced video quality of each software package and at how much time the software needs to accomplish its task.

To make a more fair comparison we've split up this article into two sections: movie only and full DVD. Movie only means that only the main movie was copied, including the main audio stream and one subtitle. Full DVD of course means that we copied the complete DVD, including all audio streams, subtitles and extra's.

In this article we're going to compare the following software packages:

Ripping:


Almost every DVD disc is encrypted nowadays which prevents you from simply dragging and dropping its contents to your hard disk. There are several tools available which can easily bypass this problem simply by decrypting the DVD's contents. The most popular tools for this job are SmartRipper and DVD Decrypter.

Both tools are extremely easy to use so we won't go into detail on how you can decrypt you DVDs. For this article we used SmartRipper to rip the entire DVD to our hard disk using the program's File Mode (in this mode SmartRipper will simply rip and decrypt all the files on the DVD).

DVD9 vs. DVD5:


Before we get started it's important to clarify the terms 'DVD5' and 'DVD9'. As we already mentioned at the beginning of this article a normal DVD disc is normally larger in size than a DVD-recordable disc. A recordable DVD is a single-sided disc with a single layer that can hold up to 4.38GB of data. Recordable DVDs and original DVDs of a size smaller than or equal to 4.38GB are also referred to as DVD5.

As said, commercial DVDs are often larger in size and they can be up to around 8GB in size maximum. These single-sided, double-layered DVDs are also referred to as DVD9. DVD-recorders, as of yet, do not support DVD9 discs and can only record to DVD5 discs.

Test Machine:


For the tests we'll be using the following hardware configuration:

  • Motherboard: GigaByte GA-7VAXP
  • Processor: AMD AthlonXP 2100+ (1.74GHz)
  • RAM: 512MB (PC2700)
  • GFX: ASUS V8200 (GeForce 3 Ti200)
  • Hard Disks: DiamondMax 40+30GB (7200rpm)
  • DVD-Recorder: Plextor PX-504A
  • Monitor: Iiyama VisionMaster 1451 19" (1280*1024@85Hz)

The Windows XP Professional operating system is installed on our test machine. Let's continue with an overview of the speeds each program needed to compress our DVD titles, on the next page.


Obiwantje
New on Forum
Posted on: 04 Jul 03 18:45
A very nice test, though I'd appriciate it if you could also mention something about what movie features can be left out by the various software-packages. These options are build in to to save space...F.I. can you de-select the French language from an English movie etc.
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pietpaulusma
CDFreaks Resident
Posted on: 04 Jul 03 23:32
Nice review, although too bad that u didn't take dvd95copy (www.dvd95copy.com) into account, it is, imo, the best dvd copy software around. With it you can specify for each part of the dvd the compression method (also for menu's etc etc) and so on. And, it is fast in its job also.
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royrogers
New on Forum
Posted on: 05 Jul 03 01:29
You say only DVDXCopy decrypts...not so, DVD Shrink also does. Don't really like your 'quality' test.... reminds me of HI-Fi mags who test music quality with instruments..... For my money, the best test is the evidence of your eyes, watching the movie in real-time on a TV. When I do this, with a movie made with DVD Shrink, Level 1 compression, I (and my friends) can't see any difference to the original. Given the price (FREE), features like decryption and variable compression levels plus the quality I've seen on my TV.....there's no contest....DVD Shrink is the clear winner.
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molitar
MyCE Member
Posted on: 08 Jul 03 00:14
Just wanted to go one more further than your review. CloneDVD is the only one at this time that can handle 999 PGC's (Program Chains). Had an interactive DVD video that had 991 PGC's and only CloneDVD out of all of them could handle that many.
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Lazza
CD Freaks Senior Member
Posted on: 08 Jul 03 08:01
Nice review, though I do agree with royrogers that the best test by far is watching the movie. Still Screenshots can provide inconclusive results compared to actually watching the movie but that of course would have been impossible for you to provide with the test. As regards DVD95Copy..... How could they even test it? There is still not a current demo available so on that count alone it did not even deserve the courtesy of testing IMO. So thx! Nice test! :X
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Deputy True
New on Forum
Posted on: 09 Jul 03 01:54
Did you ever consider trying out dvd2dvdr in a comparison to these ?
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guest
No longer with us
Posted on: 21 Jul 03 14:00
Very good article! The only problem I have is that I'm not sure how to do the whole process of backing up your DVD's. I got SmartRipper and used it to rip a few DVDs, then went into Pinnacle's InstatCopy to actually burn them, and I can't figure out how do add the ripped files to burn them. The files I ripped do not show up in InstantCopy as compatible files. Another article about the actual process of ripping and burning would be great (I tried looking already here but couldn't find one). Or if someone could just tell me here that would be great :g Thanks!!
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kamikazee
Blindwrite Team Member
Posted on: 25 Jul 03 17:17
The results are very misleading for DVDX COPY Xpress and not accurate at all. All tho the times are higher, this moive is ready to go and done, no ripper needed, all of the others needed a decryptor of some sort. So the test is highly skewed. You should have included the decrypting time to be fair. DVDXCopy Xpress, is already done with everything while the others are still decrypting.
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petspeed
MyCE Member
Posted on: 22 Aug 03 09:25
@HooHaster: You can find a guide for Instantcopy here: http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/ @Kamikazee: You can use a program like AnyDVD to decrypt the dvd on the fly, then there is no difference. However that means you need to buy another program...
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Wild0ne
New on Forum
Posted on: 04 Apr 04 21:54
I think the article is a little dated now due to recent software releases. I think it needs to be done again to show current trends. There are now other programmes ie) Intervideo windvd platinum that compresses and burns. Still I found it very informative - TY for the effort involved - no small task I know.
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guest
No longer with us
Posted on: 29 May 07 04:00
I am looking for a program that will back up my commercial dvd collection What do you gusy think would be the best program to do all of this ? thanks
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guest
No longer with us
Posted on: 13 Jul 07 01:24
Hands down DVDFabPlatinum edition does it all and more...you can even compress a dvd to psp, ipod, pda, cellphone, pvp etc. Totally customizable.
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guest
No longer with us
Posted on: 16 Jan 08 16:08
I would like to be one of your customers
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alan1476
Senior Moderator, Software Editor and Head of Promotions
Posted on: 13 Aug 08 01:17
Great program, well worth the price.
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guest
No longer with us
Posted on: 24 Aug 08 17:33
this site & downloads are so slow
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Karfield
New on Forum
Posted on: 11 Jun 09 14:54
top :g
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