Home PI/PIF scanning – Who to believe?

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Dee
Senior Administrator and Reviewer
Article posted 23 Sep 06 01:03

Verbatim MCC004

 

 

Verbatim branded – MCC004:


We created our test data discs using CD-Speed’s ‘create data disc" function.

Burning drive ‘� BenQ DW1640:

Burn speed 16x

Transfer rate test

Scanning drive ‘� BenQ DW1640:

Scanning drive ‘� NEC ND-4570A:

Scanning drive ‘� Lite-On SHW-16H5S:

Scanning drive ‘� Plextor PX-760A:

Scanning
Drive

PI
Average

PIF
Average

BenQ
DW1640

1.03

0.16

NEC
ND-4570A

1.67

0.06

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

0.31

0.01

Plextor
PX-760A

0.45

0.00

All our drives showed a broadly similar trend, although the NEC drive showed some PIF spikes which knocked down the quality score and the BenQ and NEC drives showed higher average PI errors than our Lite-On and Plextor drives.


Burning drive – LG GSA-H10N:

Burn speed 16x

Transfer rate test

Scanning drive ‘� BenQ DW1640:

Scanning drive ‘� NEC ND-4570A:

Scanning drive ‘� Lite-On SHW-16H5S:

Scanning drive ‘� Plextor PX-760A:

Scanning
Drive

PI
Average

PIF
Average

BenQ
DW1640

2.93

0.03

NEC
ND-4570A

1.77

0.01

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

0.38

0.01

Plextor
PX-760A

0.37

0.00

All our scanning drives showed a broadly similar trend. The NEC and BenQ drives once again showing slightly elevated PI errors.


Burning drive ‘� Lite-On SHW-16H5S:

Burn speed 16x

Transfer rate test

Scanning drive ‘� BenQ DW1640:

Scanning drive ‘� NEC ND-4570A:

Scanning drive ‘� Lite-On SHW-16H5S:

Scanning drive ‘� Plextor PX-760A:

Scanning
Drive

PI
Average

PIF
Average

BenQ
DW1640

70.55

0.91

NEC
ND-4570A

299.80

1.75

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

1.06

0.01

Plextor
PX-760A

9.39

0.00

This disc produced very interesting variations in results. Let’s first look at the NEC drives result. The cluster of PIF errors at 3.5gig (well out of specification) if correct should render the disc unreadable. Yet the NEC drive itself manages a perfect Transfer Rate Test.

Next let’s look at the BenQ result. At the recalibration point. According to the BenQ drive, Jitter rises as does PI and PIF errors. Yet our other drives show no problem at this point of the test disc. Our Plextor and Lite-On scans show no problems with this disc, although the Plextor scan shows elevated PI errors at about half way through the disc.


Burning drive ‘� NEC ND-4570A:

Burn speed 16x

Transfer rate test

Scanning drive ‘� BenQ DW1640:

Scanning drive ‘� NEC ND-4570A:

Scanning drive ‘� Lite-On SHW-16H5S:

Scanning drive ‘� Plextor PX-760A:

Scanning
Drive

PI
Average

PIF
Average

BenQ
DW1640

5.21

0.08

NEC
ND-4570A

3.98

0.03

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

0.84

0.03

Plextor
PX-760A

1.11

0.01

The BenQ drive in this instance shows elevated PI and PIF errors compared to our other drives at the end of our test disc. This is most likely caused by its faster scanning speed. However, all our drives show a broadly similar trend.


Burning drive ‘� Pioneer DVR-111:

Burn speed 16x

Transfer rate test

Scanning drive ‘� BenQ DW1640:

Scanning drive ‘� NEC ND-4570A:

Scanning drive ‘� Lite-On SHW-16H5S:

Scanning drive ‘� Plextor PX-760A:

Scanning
Drive

PI
Average

PIF
Average

BenQ
DW1640

2.12

0.05

NEC
ND-4570A

19.52

0.04

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

0.99

0.02

Plextor
PX-760A

1.71

0.01

The NEC drive on this occasion shows elevated PI errors, if we can ignore the PIF spike, the NEC drive reports similar PIF errors to the rest of our scanning drives.


Burning drive ‘� Plextor PX-760A:

Burn speed 16x

Transfer rate test

Scanning drive ‘� BenQ DW1640:

Scanning drive ‘� NEC ND-4570A:

Scanning drive ‘� Lite-On SHW-16H5S:

Scanning drive ‘� Plextor PX-760A:

Scanning
Drive

PI
Average

PIF
Average

BenQ
DW1640

9.81

0.04

NEC
ND-4570A

3.44

0.02

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

0.59

0.02

Plextor
PX-760A

1.71

0.00

The single PIF spike in the NEC scan spoils what is essentially a good scan. The BenQ and Plextor drives report slightly elevated PI errors near the end of the disc compared to our Lite-On drive. All our drives report fairly similar PIF error averages.


Summary:
With our MCC004 test discs and burning speed now at 16x, the variations in results have become more pronounced. However, our Lite-On and Plextor scanning drives still manage to report broadly similar results.

Now let’s head to the next page where we take a look at the first of our DVD-R test results…..


5 Comments

Mordorr
Posts: 874
Posted on: 23 Sep 06 16:39
Very Nice! Cdfreaks rulez:X I will post it, in some fé³rums at my country..:S Mordorr
paddywack
Posts: 6
Posted on: 26 Apr 07 12:38
Woh, a very insightful review which contains very useful facts to take into account when testing my burnt discs Thanks Cdfreaks
This message was edited at: 26-04-2007 12:39
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 27 Jan 08 20:41
You guys have way too much free time....
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 17 Feb 08 17:13
Thanks a lot for the informative explanation. There's appears to be a lot more to interpreting media scan results than simply basing it off a Nero quality score percentage. I used to think that this stuff was a waste of time but I now realize that you are teaching those what to look for when backing-up data and video. These results do indeed make a difference when considering an important decision as to what media to select or media/burner combo to use when having to back-up critical data. Not all media is equal and that is something important to remember when trying to back-up your irreplaceable memories such as weddings! A million thanks guys and keep it up!
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 23 Sep 08 18:02
This is all Greek to me, and I don't know what all these scan results mean. Last week I bought a spindle of a 100, that were on special for $19.99 at Office Max. (Verbatim DVD-R 16X branded MCC03RG20 Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.) They seem to work fine. I was thinking of getting another spindle before the sale ends. (On the 27th) This chart seems to show that they're suppose to be first class quality. http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm So do these scans results show that they're first class DVD-R's, or do they belong more in the second class group?

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