Plextor PlexTools

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Article posted 03 Sep 02 14:07

DAE Error Recovery

 

One of the most important new features found in the new PlexTools version is the ‘DAE Error Recovery’ which can detect uncorrectable read errors on your audio disc. Since the errors are uncorrectable it would be impossible to correct them but Plextor has introduced some smart features in PlexTools to attempt to recover the uncorrectable data. The following options can be found in the PlexTools software:

  1. Report errors only:
    This strategy can be used when the source disc is error-free or when error correction is not necessary.

  2. Reduce the speed upon error:
    When uncorrectable errors are found, the damaged area will be read at a lower speed in order to find an error-fee reading.

  3. Read again upon error:
    When uncorrectable errors are found, the damaged area will be read again for a number of times (retries) at the selected speed in order to find an error free reading. The optional setting ‘Allow Speed Down’ can be used to achieve better results at a lower speed.

  4. Recover the best sector (least errors):
    When uncorrectable errors are found, the damaged area will be read again for a number of times (retries) at the selected speed. When the errors stay, the sectors with the least amount of errors will be used to re-assemble the original data. The optional setting ‘Allow Speed Down’ can be used to achieve better results at a lower speed.

  5. Recover the best bytes (least errors) per sector:
    When uncorrectable errors are found, the damaged area will be read again for a number of times (retries) at the selected speed. When the errors stay, the bytes with the least amount of errors will be used to re-assemble the original data. The optional setting ‘Allow Speed Down’ can be used to achieve better results at a lower speed.

DAE Error Recovery

DAE Error Recovery

The Tests:

As you can see the setting goes from no error-correction to error-correction on bytes level. A unique option when it comes to handling audio errors. We of course tested the PlexTools DAE error correction option by simply extracting an audio disc with a lot of scratches and finger prints. We then extracted the audio disc, which had three tracks and a playtime of about nine minutes, with the PlexTools software.

As a comparison we used Exact Audio Copy using its Secure Mode. For the extraction process we used a Plextor PX-W4012A drive. In the table below you can see an overview of the achieved results. Please note that you can check out the created LOG-files for each extraction by clicking on the links:

 DAE Error 
Recovery
Mode Extraction
Time
Errors /
Track Quality
    Log    
PlexTools
Plextor
 PX-W4012A 
Mode 1: Report errors only 00m:34s Track 1: 67.646
Track 2: 500.613
Track 3: 32.702
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Plextor
PX-W4012A
Mode 2: Reduce the speed upon error 02m:22s Track 1: 12.359
Track 2: 440.795
Track 3: 31.328
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Plextor
PX-W4012A
Mode 3: Read again upon error 2h:19m:00s Track 1: 0
Track 2: 401.083
Track 3: 25.825
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Plextor
PX-W4012A
Mode 4: Recover the best sector (least errors) 2h:01m:32s Track 1: 0
Track 2: 261.359
Track 3: 11.752
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Plextor
PX-W4012A
Mode 5: Recover the best bytes (least errors) per sector 8h:21m:56s Track 1: 0
Track 2: 162.028
Track 3: 4.449
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Exact Audio Copy
Plextor
PX-W4012A
Low 3h:54m:00s Track 1: 98.7%
Track 2: 95.3%
Track 3: 96.8%
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Plextor
PX-W4012A
Medium 7h;45m:57s Track 1: 96.4%
Track 2: 92.8%
Track 3: 96.7%
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DAE Error Recovery – PlexTools vs. EAC

As you can see from the table the PlexTools software showed some excellent results and the program could decrease the amount of errors in track two with 67%! To keep the read times low we set the read-retries to 10 instead of 99. In theory a higher amount of read retries will reduce the amount of read errors so it should be possible to lower the amount of read errors even further.

During the read process a detailed LOG-file will be created where you can view the created errors and their position. PlexTools will make a detailed LOG-file of many other operations you can do with the program such as with the ‘Audio CD Maker’ and the ‘CD Copy’ function but its DAE LOG is very detailed. Here’s part of the created LOG-file for track 1 using Mode 5 in which you can see when and where the errors were and when they were repaired.

For our tests we used a very heavily scratched disc which we would normally wouldn’t even try to read. When you’re using a normal audio disc with a few minor scratches and finger prints ‘Mode 3: Read again upon error’ should be sufficient. When you’re using an audio disc with thick scratches you can use Mode 4 and 5 but keep in mind that the extraction process can take a long time. We needed well over eight hours to read three tracks in Mode 5 but, as you can see from the table, the decrease in errors was dramatic…

Comparing:

Of course we also did some comparing on a binary level to see which program, PlexTools or Exact Audio Copy, could extract a damaged audio track which would match the original file at best. For this we first extracted an audio track from an undamaged audio disc using both PlexTools and Exact Audio Copy. As a result we of course got two undamaged audio files. Next we scratched the audio disc and then did another extraction using both programs again. PlexTools was set-up using Mode 5 and Exact Audio Copy was set-up with ‘Error recovery quality: High’ and with the recommended settings as found on The Coaster Factory . So both programs are using their best DAE error recovery method.

We then waited until the damaged audio track was extracted and simply compared the extracted track to the original track on a binary level. When the audio track has been properly extracted, both files should match perfectly. You can see the results in the screenshots below. Please note that was compared both EAC files to each other and both PlexTools files to each other. This was done because both programs use a different extraction method:

Exact Audio Copy Compared
Exact Audio Copy tracks compared

PlexTools Compared
PlexTools tracks compared

As you can see from the screenshots the extracted audio track using Exact Audio Copy were different than the original track while the PlexTools track was identical! Please also note that Exact Audio Copy needed well over 8 minutes to extract the damaged audio track while PlexTools needed 43 seconds!

Conclusion:

Plextor Europe has certainly put some work into this new PlexTools release and it’s really a must have for people owning a Plextor drive. Its new method for handling DAE is simply unique and so far the results we got were quite impressive. PlexTools was able to perfectly extract damaged audio tracks while the extracted tracks using Exact Audio Copy were different from the original. And besides that the PlexTools software was also faster and it offers a very detailed LOG-file which will certainly come in handy for many people.

Exact Audio Copy has certainly found a new competitor in PlexTools. The only problem with the PlexTools software is that you need to have a Plextor drive and you can’t just download the full PlexTools version from the internet. Plextor Europe only offers the update version for PlexTools… But if you have a Plextor drive and a full version of PlexTools and you’re also into extracting audio then PlexTools is definitely for you.

11 Comments

TBZ
Posts: 125
Posted on: 03 Sep 02 16:24
Quote:
As you can see from the table the PlexTools software showed some excellent results and the program could decrease the amount of errors in track two with 67%!
I'm sorry I must of skimmed passed this somewhere in your article. How did you arrive at this figure? And also, do you think PT is better at DAE than EAC now?
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 03 Sep 02 17:31
Very nice. But a question Why binary comparison did was made with Plextor utility? why with only one track, probabily different from the tree of preceding comparison?
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 03 Sep 02 18:25
TBZ: Mode 1: Track 2 - 500.613 errors Mode 5: Track 2 - 162.028 errors A decrease of 67%. Unfortunately EAC doesn't have a detailed LOG-file with all the errors so we can't compare both programs here and that's why we did a binary comparison. pippocalo: we did some more tests and got the same result: EAC extracted damaged audio tracks that were different from the original file. PlexTools created the exact same files regardless if the track was damaged or not. It's very hard to tell the quality otherwise so we did a binary comparison. Yes we used a utility developed by Plextor but that doesn't make a difference in the achieved results.
Pio2001
Posts: 370
Posted on: 03 Sep 02 20:00
I'd like to know the ripping speed with clean CDs. EAC is often slow in secure mode.
Mastakilla
Posts: 465
Posted on: 03 Sep 02 20:01
hmz very strange EAC didnt do better in the binary comparison... did EAC actually said there were problems with extracting? or did it just say everything was ok? and have u noticed any hearable difference once? cause i dont think that 1000 bytes are hearable... would love to see a reaction from the creators of eac on this one
Pio2001
Posts: 370
Posted on: 03 Sep 02 20:20
As I understood, there were no errors reported. However, 1032 bytes are 258 samples, that is at most 258 errors, at least 43. Unfortunately we don't know the number of errors detected during EAC's rip. Keep in mind that errors are erratic : look at the EAC logs, in low, track 1 has no errors while track 3 has, while in medium, it is the opposite. It is possible that the Plextor success and EAC failure are within the same uncertainty, and can be reversed in another rip. More tests must be conducted. I can send you some killer CDs for error recovery : bad CDRs that always make EAC report no error while there are (on my Memorex-Teac-Sony drives)
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 05 Sep 02 09:20
Maybe they should retry the EAC test, but WITHOUT using C2, I don't think C2 is reliable on new plextors.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 05 Sep 02 17:54
For more results confirming our test results please check out this thread on our Plextor forum.
SatCP
Posts: 13
Posted on: 05 Sep 02 19:08
I've been very close to the development of the new PlexTools software, so let me shred some light on it... First let me say the audio extraction engine is completely renewed. Earlier versions of PlexTools don't even come close to the new PlexTools version when it comes to extraction quality. Pio2001:
Quote:
I'd like to know the ripping speed with clean CDs. EAC is often slow in secure mode.
On an undamaged CD the extraction speed will be equal or very close to that of regular burst extraction software (AudioGrabber, CDex,...). In other words, as fast as possible.
Quote:
It is possible that the Plextor success and EAC failure are within the same uncertainty, and can be reversed in another rip. More tests must be conducted.
I've done extensive tests of which I cannot publish the results (but when I have more time to get a new site online, I'll redo 'em). The conclusion is: the new PlexTools is superior to EAC. This thanks to the use of burst extraction mode to read data and C2 information to detect errors. When an error occurs PlexTools can choose from 5 different extraction schemes, ranked from normal to extreme secure. Let's say that scheme 5 is selected. Because of the C2 information PlexTools knows exactly which samples (not just sectors!) are correct and which are not. PlexTools will then recover the correct samples whereas EAC may not find enough matching sectors to restore the original data. sikkek:
Quote:
Maybe they should retry the EAC test, but WITHOUT using C2, I don't think C2 is reliable on new plextors.
Au contraire! In fact, the C2 error detection of the newer Plextor drives is so reliable that the whole error detection/correction mechanism is built around it. And the numbers don't lie... Older plextor drives (8/4/32 for example) have a rather unreliable C2 error detection. These drives will not benefit from this software. The new PlexTools will only work reliable when the C2 information is reliable. Drives with no or non-reliable C2 error detection will still get the best results with EAC. Of course, at the price of a much lower extraction speed.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 05 Sep 02 19:32
Thank you for your input SatCP!
alan1476
Posts: 17234
Posted on: 21 Nov 08 18:19
This is great software. Its easy and the final product is great, if you want to put movies on your IPOD, this is the program to do it with.

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