Blu-ray to Blu-ray Disc Copying

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HDwhizz
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Article posted 30 Sep 09 21:02

Fengtao software is the first in the world to release an all-in-one Blu ray ripping, compression, and burn to BD25, BD9, and BD5 application, DVDFab 6.1.0.2 beta.

It has been possible for a while to backup a BD movie to a blank BD media, providing the resulting backup could fit on the appropriate blank BD media (BD50 or BD25). It has even been possible with the use of some tools, to be able to compress a BD50 movie to fit on a blank DVD R media. This was quite a longwinded and time consuming task, but not anymore.

Fengtao software has just released a beta version of its very well known and respected DVDFab, which supports, as a world’s first all-in-one, Blu ray rip, compress and burn to BD25, BD9, or BD5.

With just few simple mouse clicks, and around 2 hours of your time, you could have a full HD movie that will fit comfortably on a DVD DL or SL media. The resulting disc will still only playback on a Blu ray player or your PC, it won’t play on a standard DVD player, because the content is still in HD.

We decided to try this for ourselves, for test purposes only, and here is what happened.

First we ripped our BD50 original (Casino Royal). Ripping and compressing an HD stream is a very CPU intensive task. Our test PC had an Intel quad core CPU (Q9550) clocked at 3.4GHz and has 8GB of DDR2 memory.

Blu-Ray_to_Blu-Ray_1

1 hour and 41 minutes is very impressive for a full rip and compress. From then on, it was only a matter of creating an ISO and then burning the disc to a DVD+R DL media.

Blu-Ray_to_Blu-Ray_2

As we can see from the above screenshot, the picture quality is extremely impressive considering the original HD stream had been compressed from over 36GB down to around 8GB.

The resulting disc was checked for compatibility on a Sony PS3 and a Panasonic DMP-BD60 stand alone Blu ray player and the movie played flawlessly from start to finish. Picture and sound quality was extremely good, and better than uncompressed DVD. It isn’t quite 1080P quality, but it is very good none the less.

Now, at last we have an inexpensive way to backup BD movies, and no doubt if this feature proves to be popular, it can only help the sales of Blu ray players and HD TV’s.

There are still some bugs to be sorted, but we must keep in mind that this is a beta. If you would like to try out DVDFab 6.1.0.2 beta, then feel free to download or discuss the new beta in our DVDFab forum thread.

18 Comments

BitRate
Posts: 420
Posted on: 01 Oct 09 02:44
What codec are the Blu-ray titles ripped to ? H.264/VC-1 ? What is the resulting resolution ?
zaina
Posts: 591
Posted on: 01 Oct 09 07:27
1 hour 40 mins is pretty fast for converting to BD9, compared to BD Rebuilder from BD50 to BD9 in 3 hours. But what about the quality comparison? Probably unnoticeable for the human eyes. You can check with your PS3 bitrate meter on the same scene, although may not be accurate but worth checking for enthusiast with larger screens.

And this version has no BD+ support still...
Regulus
Posts: 13
Posted on: 01 Oct 09 09:49
Isn't this title misleading then? It looked like you were copying blu-ray to blu-ray, but what you are actually doing is copying blu-ray to dvd-DL media, so you don't need a blu-ray writer for this.
Dalen Quaice
Posts: 1952
Posted on: 01 Oct 09 15:42
Well you can also burn to BD-25 single layer blu-ray discs, in which case you would need a blu-ray writer.
HDwhizz
Posts: 15
Posted on: 01 Oct 09 21:19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalen Quaice View Post
Well you can also burn to BD-25 single layer blu-ray discs, in which case you would need a blu-ray writer.
Correct

The codec used on the few rips I have done is VC-1 and I picked 720p, but you can pick 1080p as well.
Quality is as good as BDRebuilder at least it is in my eyes and it is a good deal faster at transcoding.
The properties on the ripped stream is reported as 7727kbps.
ivid
Posts: 651
Posted on: 01 Oct 09 21:44
Bring on the 50GB BD-R's !
012
Posts: 155
Posted on: 02 Oct 09 00:24
Quote:
Originally Posted by zaina View Post
1 hour 40 mins is pretty fast for converting to BD9, compared to BD Rebuilder from BD50 to BD9 in 3 hours. But what about the quality comparison? Probably unnoticeable for the human eyes. You can check with your PS3 bitrate meter on the same scene, although may not be accurate but worth checking for enthusiast with larger screens.

And this version has no BD+ support still...
The reason it take 1 hour and 41 minute instead of three like bd rebuilder. Because DVDFAB doesn't make use Trellis Algorithm. Turn that on and it will double the time or more to do the same movie. I did with mine set to on and took about twice as long and in some cases even more.

For encoding it relies on x264 encoder
OwaziO
Posts: 231
Posted on: 06 Oct 09 13:44
Is there any BD copying program for MAC?
z420er
Posts: 4
Posted on: 07 Oct 09 15:11
How long before Hollywood has their panties in a wad over this?
SciFer
Posts: 249
Posted on: 13 Oct 09 22:56
What it CAN NOT do is take a AVCHD created movie (using poplular tools that takes MKV files into mini Blu-ray) and shrink them down. We know a lot of these MKV are too big to fit (once processed) on DVD-DL to playback on stand alone AVCHD compliant blu-ray players. If it could do this I would definitely buy it. I tried several ways and failed.
california girl
Posts: 267
Posted on: 14 Oct 09 11:36
To copy Blu-ray for a 1 to 1 copy with no compression Blindwrite can be used (as long as a decyrpter such as AnyDVD is used too).

but of course compressing to DL DVD would be less costly.
FreqNasty_RiseS
Posts: 55
Posted on: 16 Oct 09 18:26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Z41dQ8 View Post
Is there any BD copying program for MAC?
Get Windows 7 and never will you need to ask that question again....
FreqNasty_RiseS
Posts: 55
Posted on: 16 Oct 09 18:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivid View Post
Bring on the 50GB BD-R's !
there are some dual layer BD-R's out there. Shame they cost more than buying a replacement movie right now.
MegaDETH
Posts: 4873
Posted on: 16 Oct 09 19:23
If you look around (eBay) you will find them to be around $10 if you buy a 5 pack.

Yes still expensive but not close to the cost of replacing the original.




Quote:
Originally Posted by FreqNasty_RiseS View Post
there are some dual layer BD-R's out there. Shame they cost more than buying a replacement movie right now.
OwaziO
Posts: 231
Posted on: 17 Oct 09 01:55
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreqNasty_RiseS View Post
Get Windows 7 and never will you need to ask that question again....
That will be handy..... but is there?...... yes (MakeMKV) :P
pounder
Posts: 5
Posted on: 23 Oct 09 00:09
I was Going to Try DvdFab 5 Platinum 4 Dvd DL But he didn't Have PayPal
and wanted western Union i've Heard To Many Horror Stories from many about
Paying That way. Has Fentago now added Pay pal? It might be worth signing up
with again.
mainejazz
Posts: 5
Posted on: 25 Oct 09 17:16
I am interested to know which media was used to do the Blue Ray Back copy test. The DVD Fab people advised to always use Vebatim DVD+R for dual layer only...Never DVD-R. for single layer they recommend Verbatim again, and have had no issues with DVD+R vs DVD-R. In all cases they recommend to buy the blanks only if they are made in S'Pore.

Anybody had any other suggestions or advice?
wlgspotter
Posts: 1
Posted on: 27 Oct 09 04:33
Hi:

I've doing a BD-50 to BD-5 backup on the main movie only, on Die Hard 2. Selected the DTS-HD audio and english subtitle, and chose to write to an ISO file instead of burning to disc.

When I mounted the created BD-5 ISO file using Daemon Tools, and tried playing the file on PDVD9, I the picture quality is pretty good, as it the DTS audio. However, there subtitle doesn't seemed to be copied/created, although it is in the subtitle menu of PDVD. When I select it there subtitles doesn't appear.

Anyone seen this issue? Is this a bug?

Tried with 6.1.1.8 Beta as well as 6.1.2.0.

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