Apple wants mercy on Microsoft ads

Mac Commerical:
Hey! I'm, like, a Mac ... I'm, like, sooooo much better than, like, microsoft PC's and stuff. I'm, like, ignorant and stupid, and stuff, and, like, think looks are, like everything & stuff. Oh, and people using Microsoft Windows based PC's are, like, soooooo stupid - you should, like, buy a Mac, and stuff, cos windows PC's are, like, stupid or something, and I can't actually tell the truth, and stuff, even if, like, I had an IQ, and like knew stuff or something.

Windows PC's: We're cheaper, have better variety of hardware, better variety of software, and Mac commercials are grossly misleading. Buy M$.

MAC commercials are targetted at the ignorant & stupid, and are an insult to the intelligence of everyone that watches them.

To those stupid apple commercials .. let the truth triumph.


Apple: Hey! No Fair - You're using the truth as a weapon against us - We'll see you in court

I believe Apple started all this- they reap what they sow. Nothing like fighting stupidity with truth!! They started out attacking the updates to Windows, but neglect to point out the one's for MAC's come at a price or new OS version. And have a limited amount of saoftware/hardware available to boot.

All those horribly apple commericials with apple lambasting the dumb looking pc guy. PC's are cheaper, there's way more software support, more hardware options. More competition in PC's because of all the different hardware makers and vendors.

Apple's biggest problem is that they still think the best way to make money is to sell hardware. Their hardware isn't even different anymore. The only thing that make a Mac a Mac is the OS. And if they'd just pull their heads out and start to sell the OS to anyone who wants it, they'd learn quickly that there is a MUCH great margin of profit on the OS than on the hardware. But they'd rather whine about how hard it would be to support the OS if it was sold to anyone. Gee, what a tough problem to fix. How about create a list of supported hardware and only support it? Wow, that was hard to fix. But no, Apple will fight and whine and cry about big bad M$, all the while having the means to alter their own destiny, and choosing not to use it.

Can you build a Mac from scratch? Yes, but it is harder than building a PC from scratch by leaps and bounds. PC's, you can practically put anything in and as long as you have the drivers. The hardware for Mac cost more than PC so if you wanted to go for an upgrade, be prepared to pay double. Apple, with the Intel CPU's, should of dropped the prices down to where they can really compete with MS but as usual, they depend on the "Hey, it is kewl" crowd to buy their overpriced crap.Just like the iDiot phone. I mean iPhone.

Not quite, the Mac hardware is quite unique. Look at the iMac all-in-one, Mac Books solid aluminum unified body, the new notebook batteries they have that fill up every nook & cranny of the machine, and the Mac mini.
All very unique.

Oh boy do I agree about this freakin retarted Mac ads. Can't they finally do something original for once ? I cannot believe they still air new versions of those ads many years later.
For crying out loud its getting freakin OLD Apple !
They harp on old news and issues that are not a fact anymore.
Oh yeah, they also propagate lies and propaganda about Vista.

Apple have it easy. OSX only has to support something like 6 or 8 different fixed hardware platforms accross all the Mac products. Windows has to support 100's or maybe even 1000's of hardware variations.

All made from components no longer unique to the Mac world. They use the same chips, bus, graphics, interfaces, etc. that are available on PCs.

I actually havent seen any of those Mac ads lately.

All Mac products are over priced.........you are paying for the cooooooool factor.

"you are paying for the cooooooool factor."
Also known as the "stupid factor" by anyone not part of the "Coooooooool" crowd

I build my own systems. Can't do that with a Mac.

debro - awesome first post!!

I haven't enjoyed a post as much as this one in a while...LOL

Hey, I find the Mac ads freakin' hilarious. :-)

I've suffered plenty from Wintel (and the other chipset mfgrs ((excepting the Nvidias, that I've had, or dealt with, so far)) ). And various (or most) PC preipheral makers routinely churn out turkeys, and take their time bandaiding the firmware - I've had more than my share of those.

Agreed, many/most Mac users do seem to be status-oriented, or clods. But some are creative types who don't want to deal with that crap. (Paradoxically, they'll put up with the anti-intuitive interfaces ((not merely counter intuitive)) of most media software). (Perhaps the software has exhausted their patience. OTOH, most creative types have an IT department to take care of the grief... so... *shrug*).

Perhaps many creative folk (or their bosses) like Mac, because Mac media software has sometimes led the PC apps. Been a couple of times I actually wanted a Mac platform for high-end apps, which had capabilities not in PC's. (But a Win app generally comes along, and I can't easily afford those high-end apps, or the cost of a good Mac, anyway).

Afterthoughts...

Here's a specific Mac bash for ya. Anyone remember when Airnews ran it's own NNTP, before it was a reseller? Apple is blamed for the last bug the bosses were willing to put up with. A raid array which had a bug that screwed up under Airnews's load. As the story goes (from the former Airnews IT head) Apple had written a fix... and it worked... but they wouldn't let Airnews preview it - because it wasn't scheduled it for release. Incredible...


Back to slamming PC, though. In general, Apple hardware tends to lag PC. But PC hardware (and software) is often released long before its ready. Crap, that may take months or years to patch.

Now I can't say how reliable Apple stuff is (or isn't), but...

I had a couple of Abit boards for the onboard raid (unique feature at the time). Both went belly-up out because they'd saved a few cents per unit on sub-standard capacitors. (They went back to decent caps after a flood of dead boards)... Like so many mfgr's, they would only replace dead boards with someone else's return, which, although "certified" was pretty certain to have it's own problems.

I replaced the board, for the newer processor, with a genuine Intel board. For Intel's legendary mobo reliability. And frak me if the 82801 chipset wasn't incompatible with several models of Maxtor drives (I had some reused from the dead raid mobos). It would rarely recognize them. So I tried them on an older board's Via (of all things) chipset , and didn't have trouble after that.

Well, not that specific trouble. Goes without sayting that I had other troubles, with that Via board, and the aformentioned Intel board - both had a tendancy to hang on a black screen during boot. And the Intel had an eerie habit of spontaneously powering itself up, regardless of Bios settings. (It's been a few years, but I think the Via board also had the "zombie" problem).

The Intel board may've been the reason that whichever boot drive I used, would invariably develop a read error that would utterly annihilate Windows. (Drives which later ran for years without a problem). (Wasn't the PSU, it was a good one, that I hadn't changed when most of the assortment of problems eventually cleared up).

And, as Intel firmware updates began to straighten out some bugs, I bought a Western Digital drive larger than 120 Gigs. Which I put on that (W98b) Intel machine. Got the wraparound bug, of course. Which kinda caught me off guard, since WD only warned you - that W9x required a driver, with a newer controller card, to solve the bug--- they only warned you in those WD kits which included such a card. (in those latter kits, WD speculated that the latest Intel driver, on a compatible BIOS (which I had) might work. It didn't of course).

And that crap (which had followed years of unreasonably frequent helpings of grief - hardware, apps, and OS) was the end of my infatuation with building, updating, or troubleshooting computers. I'll still do it, but I have to force myself.

Economics not your strong point, eh? Let's see, higher margins on an OS that they sell for $129 than on hardware that starts at $999 and, according to you, is no different from the stuff that everyone else sells for $500. Nah, they should definitely be more like Mister Softee. Apple has some of the best gross margins in the business and almost $30B in the bank. Sounds like they've figured out how to make money.