Chinese pirates go after Blu-ray format

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17 Nov 08 13:07 by Seán Byrne in category Uncategorized To news archive

Movie pirates have now taken advantage of a technological twist to make cheap copies that are difficult for consumers to spot, without resorting to expensive recordable Blu-ray discs.  Thanks to AVC HD’s superior video compression, the pirates re-encode Blu-ray movies to the AVC HD video format using a lower HD resolution of 720p instead of 1080p, which allows them to compress the video enough to place these re-encoded movies on ordinary blank DVDs.  This process is carried out using easily available software.

The pirates then package these counterfeit discs in the familiar blue colour Blu-ray disc cases with cover art including holograms to make them look like the real thing.  They also rely on the fact that many viewers cannot tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, especially since even 720p still offers a noticeably sharper picture on HDTV sets than upscaled standard definition DVDs.  Some merchants on eBay are warning users to look out for these counterfeit discs, where one tip-off is to check how easily they attract fingerprints, as fingerprints show up stronger on real Blu-ray discs than the imitations. 

Chinese authorities uncovered this operation after raiding a large quantity of pirated discs in China last month, in which a warehouse contained 800 of these discs including several very popular Blu-ray titles.  The Motion Picture Association estimates that piracy of high definition discs could reach 10% of movie sale losses caused by piracy in China within the next 6 months.  These pirate discs sell for as little as $7, while legitimate Blu-ray discs typically cost up to around $30. 

This threat comes at a bad time with the movie industry trying hard to make Blu-ray compensate for falling sales of regular DVDs, especially with consumers trying to cut costs now with the economic crisis.  So far these fake Blu-ray discs have not appeared outside of Asia, but they are worried that they could start appearing in places with lower broadband penetration, where consumers have difficulty downloading high definition movies.

While this is surely bad news for the movie business, Blu-ray piracy was bound to happen, especially with Chinese pirates quick to spot market opportunities.  This is also not the first time downscaling technology was used to make cheaper imitation copies of movies.  Before recordable DVD discs became affordable, pirates often re-encoded DVD movies to the inferior VCD format to sell movies using the cheaper CD-R format at the time.  However, there was a much more noticeable difference between the picture quality of VCDs and DVDs and many movies required two VCDs, which also made it easier to spot counterfeit discs.

11 Comments

Lord KiRon
Posts: 257
Posted on: 17 Nov 08 13:40
I preffer just download BDMV copy
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 17 Nov 08 15:48
I was in China earlier this year teaching and noticed these discs start to appear on the streets, publicly. They are everywhere, you just have to walk down streets and some guy has a box to sell to you.

This has been going on for DVDs for years. I could walk down the street and simply select whatever movie for about $ .70. "Could" being the operative word, I only did it a couple of times to bring home examples.

The idea that the authorities "uncovered" this operation only a month ago is a complete joke. While they may not have known where it was happening, they knew what was going on.

The blu-ray covers are very promoninent in street vendors boxes. I have one right now I'm staring at I brought home. Fooled me at first too, lol.
guest
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Posted on: 17 Nov 08 17:25
You get what you pay for. I'd go for 720p at $0.70 over an overpriced 1080p at $25.
DukeNukem
Posts: 998
Posted on: 17 Nov 08 18:25
"I'd go for 720p at $0.70 over an overpriced 1080p at $25"

Hell yeah !!!
guest
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Posted on: 17 Nov 08 18:31
AVCHD can also do 1080p/24 just like the original. It is just the bitrate that is lowered to fit onto a DVD.
guest
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Posted on: 17 Nov 08 19:32
I had a friend brought a pirated DVD a while ago. It says DVD Dual Layer but in fact it's only an SL! It also says DTS Suround sound and my Receiver did confirm DTS but the sound is awfull! The video quality is bad, the audio (fake DTS) is bad. Bad job.

Given my experience, I would get a legit DVD over pirated Blu-ray anytime! They would probably say DTS HD Master Audio on the case but probably fake either.
Anthony1uk
Posts: 327
Posted on: 17 Nov 08 21:41
Quote:
I'd go for 720p at $0.70 over an overpriced 1080p at $25.
So would I, lets hope this does take off in the EU and US and causes a drop in the price of these official disks. While I don't condone it, neither do I condone the huge markups there are on Blu-ray disks neither. So really I have no sympathy for the BD forum if these disks come in and bite them on the backside for being greedy.
debro
Posts: 11446
Posted on: 17 Nov 08 22:25
avchd has much better video quality than a standard DVD, but the compatibility is a problem. Udf 2.5 isn't supported in winxp without 3rd party software, nor dvd players, and possibly bluray players. Much of the crap from china is screeners, rather than proper rips. Only the cheapest of the cheap, or poorest of the poor would appreciate the pirate discs, and they'd probably be more inclined to steal an original than buy it.
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 18 Nov 08 20:35
So when is the industry going to recognize the opportunity here to offer (1) legitimate HD titles in AVCHD format on DVD media and (2) DVD players that will decode MPEG4 and output HD video?
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 19 Nov 08 14:56
avchd has much better video quality than a standard DVD, but the compatibility is a problem. Udf 2.5 isn't supported in winxp without 3rd party software, nor dvd players, and possibly bluray players. Much of the crap from china is screeners, rather than proper rips. Only the cheapest of the cheap, or poorest of the poor would appreciate the pirate discs, and they'd probably be more inclined to steal an original than buy it. [/quote]</span>
It's funny to see people talking out of their @$$. I just came back from a business trip to Beijing. Yeah there are screeners, but high quality rips are everywhere as well. And I've seen many foreigners purchasing them too. </span></p>
dr_joe
Posts: 31
Posted on: 19 Nov 08 17:37
AVCHD does not have to present a compatibility problem. There is nothing inherent in the MPEG4-10 format that requires UDF 2.5. I have made discs with AVCHD content that are compatible with Windows XP and Blu-ray players. I've also made "combo" discs; a "combo" disc will play its DVD content when placed in a DVD player, its AVCHD content (1920x1080) when placed in a Blu-ray player and is compatible with Windows XP.

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