DVD Decrypter – Gone, Forever!

06 Jun 05 08:41 by H3rB3i in category Uncategorized To news archive

This isn’t a good start into this new week,LIGHTNING UK! used our news submit to let us know the following really bad news..

Hello world,

I"ve got some good news and some bad news.Let’s start with the good…. (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you"ll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about it than I am.

What started as a bit of fun, putting a GUI around some existing code, turned into something that I can only describe as ‘part of me’ ‘� yes, I know that’s sad ;-) As I"ve recently been made aware (by a letter, hand delivered to my door, last Tuesday), due to some law that was changed back in October 2003, circumventing copy protection isn"t allowed.

Ok so it has taken a while (almost 2 years), but eventually "a certain company" has decided they don"t like what I"m doing (circumventing their protection) and have come at me like a pack of wolves. I"ve no choice but to cease everything to do with DVD Decrypter.I realise this is going to be one of those "that sucks – fight them!" kinda things, but at the end of the day, it"s my life and I"m not about to throw it all away (before it has even really started) attempting to fight a battle I can"t possibly win.

If 321 Studios can"t do it with millions, what chance do I have with £50?! As I"m sure most of you have already noticed, the site has been down for a few days. That surprised me as much as the next person (slight breakdown in communication), or I would have issued this statement on it directly.

So anyway, from this point forward, I"m no longer permitted to provide any sort of assistance with anything that helps people infringe the rights of "a certain company".That means, no more emails, no more forum posts, no PM"s, no nothing! END OF STORY.The domain name will be transferred over to the company by the end of the week (9th June, according to the undertakings I have to sign) so don"t email it thinking "Oh, I"ll just ask LIGHTNING UK! for support on this". You"ll not be getting the intended recipient and could be landing yourself in sh1t!

With 3.5.4.0 being the last version, it makes sense for everyone to disable the "check for new versions" feature, as obviously there won"t be any. Of course what I really mean is that you should all stop using the program out of respect for the company’s rights.

Anyone hosting DVD Decrypter is advised to cease doing so immediately. I"ve the feeling they won"t stop with just me. I"m having to contact anyone I know of that is (at the very least, the "mirror" sites), and tell them to stop. Copies of those emails must also be sent to the solicitors so they can check I"m doing everything I"m supposed to. If I don’t, I die.

It is of course down to the owners of those sites to react how they want to. It"s not my job to force you to do anything you don"t want to, I"m just giving you some friendly advice. Maybe it"s just me, but I see this as a bit of an "end of an era". I realise there are other tools, but there"s no telling how much longer they"ll last, and not only that, mine was the oldest! I"ve met loads of great people over the years and I want to take this opportunity to wish them every success for the future – yes DDBT peeps, that includes you lot! : "(I hope you"ve all enjoyed my contribution to the DVD scene and maybe I"ll see ya around sometime.

LIGHTNING UK!
(Author of the once "Ultimate DVD Ripper", DVD Decrypter)

Well, LIGHTNING UK! too bad that you are forced to stop your work on this great software. We all out here thank you and wish you all the best in the future. More information on copyrights in Europe can be found on Euro-Copyrights.org. Discuss this in our Copy DVD Movie Forum .

Need other software to remove copy protections? Then try AnyDVD, software that is able to bypass copy protections, region code protection and much more. Faster as it can rip ‘on the fly’.

Source: CDFreaks.com

196 Comments

divadiow
Posts: 60
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 08:47
this is a grave day indeed. I'd like to thank Lightning UK for their development of DVDDecrypter- I've used it since the early days and it's been invaluable. now- what other programs can we use?
[edited by divadiow on 06.06.2005 08:49]
Liggy
Posts: 6583
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 08:53
A sad day for everyone. :c He should have leaked the sourcecode. Once unleashed, development probably could not have been stopped. :d Let's soon check who this company was. Time for a further boycott I think!
jellybelly
Posts: 82
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 08:54
this is a great program and i wish to thank the author for the yearsi have had it i hope someone can continue with something similar
G@M3FR3@K
Posts: 10655
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 08:55
Wow, I did not see this coming, a very sad day indeed. DVD Decrypter was the best and easiest DVD ripper ever. I wish you all the best LIGHTNING UK! Ps. moving the software to the beautiful island of Antigua () wasn't an option?
bichonn
Posts: 1476
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 09:07
Hey I think we (users) should be the ones helping LIGHTNING restarting this story somewhere else!!! I don't see my computer without dvd decrypter!!!
Lord KiRon
Posts: 257
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 09:20
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !!!! Release the full sources, I know it's not the thing you had in mind but at least it will allow others in countries with different lows pick up where you left ... PLEASE ...
_chef_
Posts: 27517
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 09:25
Darn! Now I'm really sad...
RaMDaY
Posts: 107
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 09:31
Damn...I always thought DVD Decrypter was open source.
Pianoman
Posts: 952
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 09:32
:r:r:r :c That's a really bad start of a day... DVDDecrypter was one of the best things I put on my computer... Sorry to hear about that, but I understand you, LIGHTNING UK... Hope, the community finds a solution for this... Thanks again for your patience, time and knowledge!
peaceandlove
Posts: 34
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 10:38
very sad news... guess that behind the decision there is Sony with their Arccos scheme. Now there is only Anydvd that is good enough...
Korgh
Posts: 7
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 10:57
This is very, very sad! This scenario just shows how big companies can destroy the human creativity and cooperativism. I, sincerily wish all sort of good things to you, LIGHTNING UK.Thanks for your amazing soft and for shared your work with us.
sorti
Posts: 281
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 11:07
I sent that guy money, super program - I've used it 700 plus times to test my DVD drive and it worked well. I hope the next guy who makes a program like this does not feel the need to have a home base webpage where he can be found and killed. Without programs like this we are all stuck in the real DRM enabled world.
katastrofe
Posts: 116
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 11:11
How about releasing a "ripperless" version? If you let the GUI interact with a command prompt version of DeCSS (or similar), it's down to the individual whether thay want to use it or not...
techman
Posts: 51
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 11:34
How about letting the source code out or passing it on to another developer, it seems a shame to let a great project and community die
HelloShaun
Posts: 177
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 11:46
Gulp, am I allowed to swear big time? Such a shame, freedom is only allowed to those with the money to afford it. Wish there was something we all could do. Many Many thanks Lightning UK.
Korgh
Posts: 7
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 11:50
Hehehe! Will be funny, katastrofe, but i think more effective if the source code goes spread to the community... We'll got lots of variations of the program. That will be a REAL "sharks" nightmare! :d
alexnoe
Posts: 4695
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 11:52
He probably knows that this could get him into trouble, he would have had to anticipate the receipt of that letter and would have had to leak the source code just 10 minutes before. However, we know now that anyone who wants to restart from scratch must not offer support, and especially not a website. The way to distribute it must be made difficult to identify individuals
ripit
Posts: 5907
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 12:13
That really blows!!!!! As far as what other tools, has anybody keep up with smart ripper? It used to be good a while back?
goldenfingaz
Posts: 23
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 12:38
make it opensource thats the only way dvddecrypter is the best !! i wish u the best Lightning UK
hardluck
Posts: 12
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 13:21
I Love You Bro....Snffff
Ivanhoe
Posts: 751
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 13:22
I can see the faces of SLYSOFT smiling.... Hopefully the code could be passed on to someone for further development. A sad day indeed.
hajj_3
Posts: 185
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 13:40
yeah release the source code, then someone else can carry on its development in a country that has no copyright laws. this would also be good for us due to olli from slysoft could gain ideas and improve clonedvd and anydvd. open source is amazing, just look at firefox 1.0.4
cynicalbastard
Posts: 480
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 13:50
a great product with great usability thanks to intelligence in the GUI's design. Obviously crafted by someone who knows about usability, & unlike many other free products, this one was (is) the best. Looks like www.slysoft.com and www.dvdidle.com are 2 remaining options for those who want to back up their copy-protected tosh.
Ender.Wiggin
Posts: 53
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 13:52
Well, we do still have AnyDVD but what is prevent the same organization from halting the development of that software...
Evolution76
Posts: 11
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 14:35
:c:c:c:c R.I.P. This is a sad, sad, sad day.......but like the internet world it will raise again.......I love you DVD Decrypter
a²°
Posts: 223
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 14:37
"The domain name will be transferred over to the company by the end of the week (9th June, according to the undertakings I have to sign)... With 3.5.4.0 being the last version, it makes sense for everyone to disable the check for new versions feature, as obviously there won't be any." Guys, take this serious! Disable the Autoupdate function NOW if you don't want to appear on their IP's list after the domain was transferred. Block the application with your firewall to prevent further "accidental" access to the net. I hope L_UK! doesn't have to face any further trouble. He should not release the source code to avoid more legal threats from Sony (?!). But who am I to give legal suggestions? Thumbs up for Lightning_UK!! You did a great job! Thanks for all you have done!
[edited by a²° on 06.06.2005 14:52]
Liggy
Posts: 6583
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 14:52
Well, maybe he shared the sourcecode with someone else before already and he's unable to stop this person from spreading the code now.
bitbyter
Posts: 23
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 14:58
Pity.. I've unpacked the executable and figured it wouldnt be overly hard to modify the existing internal version and the 3 web sites that the application uses to retrieve the _version.txt file (those of you with a hex editor jump to 0x2330b0) and there it is - not sure what url you'd want to change it to however seeing without the source you can't release an updated version anyhows. Unless of course the source code was to say magically appear (lightings' pc might have had some trojan he caught from a website that finds source code and posts it to newsgroups). Seems to clear to me any software designed to backup your home wedding dvd's would need to be a 'low key' event to minimise 'attention'.
a²°
Posts: 223
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 14:59
Yeah, you are right, but if this had happen it would have been known already. If the source appears in some p2p these days, it would smell too fishy, don't you think? But you never know... :d
siliconsoul
Posts: 557
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 15:20
www.doom9.net still has what your looking for if you dont have a copy!
aradian
Posts: 18
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 15:22
Again welcome to the new world order where their agenda is ultimately to strip all rights from the individual except the super rich! Time to fight back I say. Find out who the mystery company is. Pray that this project can be transferred to slysoft before the one world government and microchipped population. This action is just the beginning in this war. Remember when elby stuff was shut down? It is only a matter of time until a "net solution" presents itself so don't despair. I heard that intel is putting drm into their new dual core chips for blu ray and hd-dvd I imagine. Since they are not telling us what it is for. I suggest AMD dual core 64 bit chips if they aren't DRM'ed too.... As long we are free of that bull we will still have room to move i spite of any illuminati puppets most people call politicians. Time for the people to revolt tax wise since the govenments of the world commit treason every day against its people (in the name of corporate welfare and bribes) and cd freaks is a good non marketing site that exposes all this. The fact is only a critical mass of woken up people can stop this not just the few as lightning uk pointed out..... So spread trhe word and know what secret societies and skullduggery is going on that the news media aren't telling you. After all FTA TV and cable are just a brainwash device for advertisers who wish to bend us to their will.....
DoMiN8ToR
Posts: 9067
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 15:33
Everyone talking about other options to get this software back online, please realise that this has been the life work of Lightning as he writes, also think of the consequences for him if he doesn't comply to the law. The possibility that he will be held responsible for damages is considerable and could totally destroy his life. Even if he would leak the source code now it would be obvious to any judge that he was not really trying to stop the distribution of his software. There is not much left other than thanking him for his efforts and wishing him the best of luck with evertything he is going to do in his life. Wasting his life for a piece of software is simply not worth it.
bokkasrealm
Posts: 44
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 15:50
DVD Decryptor is something other companies wish they could have invented. So many features, easy to learn, and strong as oak when it came down to being stable. I MAYBE had 1 crash in the last 3 years. So sad to see development stop on this wonderful proggie. Hopefully, Arcos was the last futile attempt at controlling product useability for the regular DVD. We have yet to fight the Blu Ray and HD-DVD.
mcleaver
Posts: 1
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 16:10
That's pretty shitty. Especially as we have been using DVD Decrypter as a tool in a legit film industry environment - to make a DivX with AUtoGK for subtitlers to work on films. Not sure what the industry will offer us now to ensure we can continue with such use?
volvofl10
Posts: 4
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 16:24
i daresay LUK has thought of all options, and if he could do anything realistically with it, he would have done . i think we all ought to say to him "Well Done" with what he achieved, and Thank you , and wish him all the best . this is a sad loss to us all.
gl1
Posts: 1
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 16:33
Sorry to hear the news. This is just to say a big thankyou for the effort you have put in ....
shimman
Posts: 596
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 16:40
LIGHTING UK! AND OTHERS WHO HELPED TO MAKE DVD DECRYPTER, THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT SOFTWARE AND FAREWELL. YEAH, AMERICA!! FOR COMING UP FOR SUCH A GREAT LAW!!
ElliotW
Posts: 197
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 16:49
If the source code was on a cd, and somebody in a public place like a university or library "walked off" with it, that would not be the authors fault. And if the source code had and "old" pre-law-letter date, well, gee there would be no way to tell when this thieft took place.
Maltesse
Posts: 1
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 16:50
:c Thank you for giving us the best DVD copy program ever. I understand your decision and I wish you the best.
notta
Posts: 6
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 17:09
I hate to say it guys, but it looks like the movie and music associations are starting to get the upper hand and are only picking up speed knowing that it's working. There's not a day that goes by that you don't hear of a bust. I think the days of backing up your movies and CD's maybe coming to an end.
mrQQ
Posts: 833
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 17:26
for every one down, to raise up your post couldnt be more wrong
Roj
Posts: 434
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 17:35
OPEN SOURCE IT AND STICK IT TO THE BASTARDS!!!!!!!
naz2x
Posts: 11
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 18:08
they will pay for what they done
Roj
Posts: 434
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 18:27
"I think the days of backing up your movies and CD's maybe coming to an end. " For every single user they prosecute, there are tens of thousands more that they can't touch and don't have the resources to. This isn't a battle they can win - all users have to do is wait them out. Remember, the Internet is made up of several million users. The entertainment companies have to answer to shareholders and their coffers hold only so much money. Copy protection efforts and lawsuits will eventually take their monetary toll. The companies are hoping that users will be scared into letting them win before they start to seriously hurt.
DoMiN8ToR
Posts: 9067
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 18:37
Not only the US has these laws, also the countries in the European Union have much stricter copyrights laws than before. More information on the European Copyright Directive can be found here: http://www.euro-copyrights.org
peterosesbookie
Posts: 26
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 19:02
BEST PROGRAM EVER - BASTARDS YOU KILLED DVD Decrypter. I have used this program for years since it started. I say give all the rights and source code to Slysoft and let them keep updating the program even though you only took donations for the program. Like you said you have to cease any further operations to do with DVD Decypter so let Slysoft continue it or some other country that has no copyright laws (Kuwait). later pete
Neoxellos
Posts: 16
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 19:13
Thanks for all your work.
danielb
Posts: 1
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 19:13
Good luck in the future mate, and all of you from the forum ;-(,
bcn_246
Posts: 3626
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 19:36
I would also like to thank LIGHTENING UK! for all his hard work. I would not pester him to release anything more (ie source code), or do anything more, this will only land him in trouble. Allthough it would be nice to fight it, I would have done the same if i where him. Thanks again, Ben
digidragon
Posts: 1
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 19:39
Thanks for your HUGE contribution to the DVD backup world, and for your dedication in fixing every little bug that was discovered, for all the updates in response to people's ripping problems, for making the software the best you could make it, and for your excellent support forum. And all of this was free!!! Good luck for the future. If there's any justice, Nero will offer you a job with a huge salary...
XStylus
Posts: 16
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 19:51
VERY smart and wise advice. I just added it to my blocker, something I thought I'd never have to do. It truly is a sad day for the comman man's rights.
VirusHack
Posts: 1022
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 19:56
Very sad day!:c Thax LIGHTNING UK! for all the work you have done and wish all the best for the future! A very very good free program taken down by a company that could easily ignore it. R.I.P DVD Decrypter! \VH////
TrueAudio
Posts: 14
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 20:02
This tragic event should serve as a HUGE red flag to all software programmers who write similar software-to make immediate preparations to already have your source code stashed away safely, ready to be immediately be distributed to the whole world should such oppression befall the next software maker that fosters digital Fair Use rights, that way, these greed driven fascists will be completely screwed forever. Seeing this kind of egregious crap makes me sick. The fact that governments have been relentlessly bombarded with the so called "need for stonger copyright protections" has already gone far enough, but threatening the maker of this great software is just unbelieveable. Other companies will likely follow, until there will be NO readily available software tools for anyone, except for the experts who make copies and sell them for money illegaly, again screwing the home user. This gestapo is trying to make Jack Valenti's viewpoint a reality "When you buy a DVD, you are buying a copy, if that gets damaged, you go buy another copy". I trust there is a special place in hell reserved for those that perpetrated this injustice. The "law" that made possible for this to happen deserves NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT, and the "LAW" CAN GO TO HELL, just like it did with alcohol prohibition, SCREW YOU MPAA, SONY, Macrovision, et.al.
bluesektor
Posts: 8
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 20:02
Thanks for all your hard work, you app was one of my favorites... How about a newsgroup dedicated to it? If someone just happens to get a hold of the source it could be updated there... no web servers, no control, no way to take it out :d
Wesociety
Posts: 5230
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 20:06
LIGHTNING_UK!, This is a truly sad day indeed. My deepest appreciation and thanks goes out to you for all of your hardwork and community support over the years. You will be sorely missed. Wesociety
Videl
Posts: 6
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 20:31
Thanks for the wonderful software you cooked up LIGHTNING UK! :g Your hardwork will always have a place on my hard drive!
Crabbyappleton
Posts: 5757
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 20:46
Let me add my best wishes and regards for your future and that you will be left alone now.
Rich86
Posts: 448
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 21:02
Well, the movie studio storm troopers continue to march. Will this cause sales of dvd's to increase worldwide? Of course not.
madmax
Posts: 1565
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 23:11
One of the greatest programs ever by the responce here and on other news sitesforums shows how popular dvd decryptor is... thanks LIGHTNING UK
bedazzled
Posts: 47
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 23:38
"The domain name will be transferred over to the company by the end of the week (9th June, according to the undertakings I have to sign)" I think the domain is yours, you just have to drop/abandon it and stop developing/supporting the program. Why are you obliged to give it to them? "Of course what I really mean is that you should all stop using the program out of respect for the company's rights." What do you mean? Am I obliged to stop using the program? No, I won't! And I don't give a single f*ck for all this DRM-crap-hysteria!:g Well, sorry guyz, but this story leaves several questionable facts... Can someone explain to me why Slysoft/dvdidle or any other company is entitled to release such a software and not Lightning UK or someone else for free? I just don't get it!
dap
Posts: 50
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 23:50
:c LUK Thanks for all your amazing efforts. Please enjoy the rest of your life in peace.
bedazzled
Posts: 47
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 23:58
OK, Slysoft is located in Antigua, but not the other companies! :P
markan
Posts: 2
Posted on: 06 Jun 05 23:59
The issue is that Lightening UK is in the UK which is covered by laws that make it possible for him to be prosecuted if he doesn't stop the development and behave nicely by encouraging us to stop using his software. Frankly I'm amazed, and pleased, that he got away with it for so long. Slysoft is in Antigua which is clearly more liberal
ItalianJob
Posts: 959
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 00:23
OK : - Plextor : blacklisted - Sony : blacklisted Who else ?
Electrox3d
Posts: 221
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 00:28
this could easily be used like ICOPYDVDs2, (which spawned from 321 studios DVD X Copy), They just didn't install a DeCSS in the ripper, so it wouldn't rip a DVD alone, you needed to install "DVD43FREE" a free utility that allows any ripper to see the disc as not CSS encrypted. This little act allowed people all around the world with different laws to install DVD43FREE and use ICOPYDVDs2 with all their DVD's for backup. This could be a simple release one evening in a drunken stuper.
Electrox3d
Posts: 221
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 00:28
this could easily be used like ICOPYDVDs2, (which spawned from 321 studios DVD X Copy), They just didn't install a DeCSS in the ripper, so it wouldn't rip a DVD alone, you needed to install "DVD43FREE" a free utility that allows any ripper to see the disc as not CSS encrypted. This little act allowed people all around the world with different laws to install DVD43FREE and use ICOPYDVDs2 with all their DVD's for backup. This could be a simple release one evening in a drunken stuper.
Electrox3d
Posts: 221
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 00:28
this could easily be used like ICOPYDVDs2, (which spawned from 321 studios DVD X Copy), They just didn't install a DeCSS in the ripper, so it wouldn't rip a DVD alone, you needed to install "DVD43FREE" a free utility that allows any ripper to see the disc as not CSS encrypted. This little act allowed people all around the world with different laws to install DVD43FREE and use ICOPYDVDs2 with all their DVD's for backup. This could be a simple release one evening in a drunken stuper.
the bean
Posts: 23
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 00:42
@italianjob, why is plextor blacklisted on your list??? Anyway, banding a DVDripper, because it can circonvent a copy protection is LAME! if you can "break" a copyprotection easaly, it isn't a copy protection anymore. and should not been labeled as a copy protection. the first copy protection was using 80 min disk instead of the 73 min onces. you couldn't make a backup because these 80 min disks were not for sale or were too expensive. what if i burn a "one-of-those-copyprotected -80-min-cd's" with nero, or Easy cd creator..etc on a blankc 80 min cd? i would circonvent the copy protection..Right? soo, all software that can do this must be banned!!! wich will never happen ofcours my point is= DVDdecryptor must be here to stay! And it will always be in my memory! thanks to the creator and everybody who helped out witnthis wonderfull program!
Liggy
Posts: 6583
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 00:46
For Plextor just have a look at this story.
Yardwaste
Posts: 36
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 01:20
Can't blame Plextor on that one! Reverse engineering and bragging about it!! Go PLextor!:d
SamuriHL
Posts: 2877
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 01:32
It doesn't look like very many people used DVD Decryptor. :g Lightning man, we wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. This was one of the best freeware apps ever written. It has SO many useful features beyond the obvious. They may be able to prevent future development, but, somehow, given the 70 responses so far, I'm guessing the software's not going to disappear any time soon. Thanks for all your hard work!
debro
Posts: 11645
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 01:34
It's a pity that such an inspired programmer has once again been curtailed by the almighty dollar. I wish LUK! the best for the future. I'll be visiting the site in a few days to find out the name of said company and then encouraging all my friends and relatives to boycott them. I don't appreciate the constrictions they are placing on the populace in general, as it is just another blow to our freedom of choice.
darkonc
Posts: 1
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 02:19
Don't trust everything you read. Corporate lawyers will ask you do do all sorts of things that a judge would simply laugh at if it ended up before them.. An example would be the request for your website -- They have *absolutely no right* to that. -- Nor do they have the right to demand that you CC them on emails to mirror sites.. If you want to shut down your development and stop distributing your software to avoid a fight, that's your choice -- and I can understand that you want to avoid the associated costs. Once you do that, though, there's really nothing that they can do to touch you -- The rest of what they're demanding is really icing on their cake. I really don't think that you should reward them for being assholes to you.
newtoburners
Posts: 315
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 03:18
how can we disable the update feature of decrypter? tell me the steps.
nuggetreggae
Posts: 142
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 03:19
haha this cat and mouse game has been going on for years and years just increasing in volume
nuggetreggae
Posts: 142
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 03:34
You just gotta respect free software developers like LUK! 10/10 for giving us a fantastic software. If all the posters on this site just stopped and thought for a second how many css protections this software has beaten, how many backups have been made using it, how many people have downloaded and used it (without incident), we would realise what an absolute gem of a guy LUK is for bringing us this great stuff. Thanks very much for all your hard work. Dont listen to the selfish ones above, asking you to leak this and that. Theyre just thinking of themselves. Take pride and pleasure in the amount of respect you get from this, and then get onto the next project. With Massive respect. Nuggetreggae
merlin100
Posts: 101
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 03:53
Sad to hear about DVD Decrypter..:c Doesn't Hollywood realise for everyone they shutdown, they'll always be more to fill the vacuum They're a bunch of greedy money grabbing tosspots!
machiner
Posts: 16
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 04:00
I registered just to respond to this article. I cannot believe that an individual that developed such functional software (I have never used it, but other users are very vocal - even though it's for wintel) over the period of years that you did would so completely cave to the company in question. What sort of nonesense did they assault you with that you gave them total control over your code AND your website? AYFKM? All you had to do was to remove the "offending" application and agree not to distribute it anymore. YOU own the code and YOU own the website. I don't know you personally - you may be a terrific guy - but at this point I say that your ego prevented you from releasing the source code and your lack of spine allowed you to cave so completely to the demands of this company. I can see that many here think you're a "hero" for your contribution to the dvd world, but what good is your contribution really? It turns out to have been a flash-in-the-pan and will become useless and forgotten in no time. If you're not willing to fight for something in this world than what the hell good are you? OK - my attack and rant is finished. I still wish you all the best, really.... and yes, I have had the occassion to practice what I preach. peace and apples machiner
Kalvos
Posts: 1
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 04:06
I used DVD Decrypter just once -- to copy a home recorder DVD of a Discovery Channel show on which I appeared, so I could send a copy to my mom. The DVD was sent to me, and the home recorder embedded the copy protection. That ability was enough to make me respect and thank Lightning UK. I am a content creator who uses licensing agencies and has lots of intellectual property protections written into law. Nevertheless, this revolting behavior on the part of a huge company ends up destroying everyone's rights and privileges. It is purely about power and power's need to crush those with less power. If a Lightning UK defense fund is created, I will contribute some of my paltry royalties to it, and if the offending company is formally unveiled, I will boycott its products and encourage all my clients to do so until they apologize, reinstate Lightning's ability to continue with and distribute his own work, and provide him with damages for the disruption to his life and reputation.
Hypnosis4U2NV
Posts: 1464
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 04:22
Take care L_UK!.. Thanks for a great proggie.. Sure, the guy can gamble with the anonymous company that issued him the warning, but is it worth gambling your life over.. These companies have so much political power that they run our governments.. If Lightning_UK! complained his source code (for a legit program) was stolen and distributed on the net, what are the odds that someone in law enforcement would really care? Im sorry folks, money talks.. Its been like that for a long time and our politicians run our governments which in turn control our law enforcement community.. So if you want something done, grease your politicians pockets on election year..
SamuriHL
Posts: 2877
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 04:28
Believe me when I say DVD D is no "flash in the pan." Even without the ability to decrypt titles *AFTER TODAY*, it is STILL one of the finest rippers out there. Beyond that, it has other abilities that make it a VERY VERY useful piece of software to have around. Reading and writing ISO files, for one. The ability to rip and process streams from a DVD structure is one of my absolute favorite abilities. The only thing it can't do *MAYBE* is if they modify the stupid protection again so that DVD D doesn't work with the titles that come out in the future. Anything out there before today and probably a majority of titles that get released in the near future....not a problem for DVD D. So give it some respect...it's by far the best freeware ripper ever released. Lightning UK *IS* a hero in many people's eyes. Yes, the DeCSS code was out there before DVD D, but, his GUI made the process painless. If he doesn't want to fight the industry, that is his choice. Don't rag on the guy as a result of his PERSONAL decision. It is, after all, a *FREE* piece of software he made.
Ginsu Victim
Posts: 73
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 05:02
:c:c:c:c:c:c:c:c It was the best program and it was free. More more could you ask for. Thanks for the great program. I'll continue using it as long as I have a copy. The best there is, and probably the best that ever will be. Good work.
sikoone
Posts: 1043
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 05:29
I also believe a person should fight for what they believe in, but to call him spineless and to insinuate that he's an egomaniac; don't you think that's just a little harsh? Machiner you seem like an indepedent thinker yourself so you should understand if he chooses that it is best for him to do what he did, then fine. I also don't think he should have to turn over his website, and i would love to see the source code released so someone with more skills than myself can put the screws to this company; but if he decides that, that is not the way he wants to go, fine. Even if the code was released, that doesnt mean the new program is going to be free, so that could mean nothing. Machiner, I agree with you fully but i dont think you should insult someone because they do something different from what you would do. I don't want to turn this thread into a flame war , but i had to say something. In closing thanks Lightning UK for the program, i'm sorry that you have to go through this when all you're doing is helping someone exercise the rights that should be theirs anyway (not everyone is a pirate). Thanks again and good luck
dreamliner77
Posts: 452
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 07:33
Okay, who's starting the defense fund?
illogical
Posts: 3
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 07:35
I wonder where and when that law sneaked it to existence, seems the guy is in the UK. You know every law that comes in to existence no matter how large or small should be published, in at least 2 national newspapers every week. In this instance if besides closing down they are trying to gain anything else, he should tell them to go run & jump, his software existed before the law was passed, not only that there was a previous rulling that it was legal, in fact it was illegal to prevent people making a backup of something they owned the original of, as this was a right, I wonder how the idiots are going to deal with that one. I know it's pie in the sky but how nice would it be if everyone who buys DVD's brought charges againt whoever for preventing them exercising their right to make a backup copy, all this stuff is too much in one direction, that law needs to be overturned.
shuma02
Posts: 72
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 08:01
Nothin' but Love and Respect for the Program and its Creator. All of us have lives. You can't expect one person to put his on the line for all of us. You go as long as you can, fight a clean fight against the machine, and walk away when it's time. Respect !
DVD_ADDICT
Posts: 2370
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 08:15
A sad day indeed for all of us. I wonder if other programs will be targeted. For instance dvdshrink or any other website such as videohelp.com., cdfreaks, etc???? Is the government going to stop websites from posting guides on how to back up dvds??? It really sucks when big corporations bully the small guys. :r Thanks L UK for the Decrypter program that you provided all of us to use.
a²°
Posts: 223
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 09:15
You will find this option under Tools/Settings/Events. Uncheck "On Startup/Check For Program Update" and you are done. Don't forget to configure your firewall if you have one. :S
TrueAudio
Posts: 14
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 09:22
This software is/was EXTREMELY powerful and was the first to laugh in the face of Sony's BS freedom robbing Arccos DRM. Now what will happen is they will make small changes to their DRM, and it will make the software useless eventually, because noone will be around to update the code in it to keep defeating the new DRM. These companies who have been implementing DRM must have been getting pissed, but thats what should be happening, EXCEPT they should be getting so pissed and getting the message that they should STOP ALTOGETHER PERMANENTLY with screwing around with DRM. Now Macrovision doesn't have to worry as much with their DVD rip guard, they advertised that crap saying that it defeated like 97% of the rippers out there, so guess what their plans are for the last 3%? Threaten the hell out of them with some lawsuit so they can't work on it anymore. It's as though the laws of business don't apply to the likes of Macrovision, one of their executives said their objective was to "piss customers off gently" with regards to DRM (same mentality goes for TCPA, but thats even more insidious). Now what in the hell business professors did these people have in college? "Piss your customers off gently" --yeah, right, ask your boss, CEO of your company etc what he would think of that philosophy. They all hope people get "comfortably numb" to DRM schemes, and then, one day finally there will be no choice not to have DRM unless you are aware of Indie labels (which the vast majority dont even know what an Indie is, and also AFAIK there's not much in the way of independent films that are that good.) The MPAA is so incredibly arrogant, and has such audacity that they will probably push for Congress to make ALL open source software Illegal, criminalizing tens of thousands more individuals and companies. Linux might be illegal worldwide, companies that use it will be forced to switch to M$ft, or force DRM by federal (or worldwide via IFPI) mandate into Linux. Right now the MPAA utterly refuses to acknowledge that Source code (aka TEXT) is protected by freedom of speech, they say that because they know that if it can always remain protected by Freedom of Speech they are utterly powerless, thus they are hellbent to dissassociate it with that constitutional protection. Sure more people will boycott, but most people are sheep, and are complacent as hell. Unless something interferes with someone's ability to eat, go to the grocery store, shit, take a shower, drive to work, and sleep, people don't generally give a damn about anything else. I did something at least about all this type of BS, I wrote 26 U.S. Senators when they tried to pass the Induce Act, and I spent my own money calling in to their DC offices like mad on the call in day giving people hell. If 100,000 more people in this country gave a damn, it would matter. I also wrote my House Representative about the Pirate Act back in the day, after finding out he more or less supported it, he instantly lost my vote. Way too many people don't read enough and aren't qualified to make intelligent voting decisions, and that's part of the reason the U.S. is going to hell fast.--Libertarian for the win, and yes, I'm boycotting.
TrueAudio
Posts: 14
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 09:27
These are posts from boycottiraa.com regarding this gross injustice: MajorTreat Date: June 7, 2005 @ 2:48 AM The company to attack is Macrovision: http://www.macrovision.com/ Macrovision Corporation 2830 De La Cruz Boulevard Santa Clara, CA 95050 Phone: (408) 562-8400 Fax: (408) 567-1800 Email: corp-info@macrovision.com Map to Santa Clara office Exit from 101 Delacruz blvd Fax them!, Phone them! spam them! DDOS them! Also may I suggest that each of us deploy a simple web site that permit the downloading of DVD decrypter with instructions! Let have thousand of sources available for the download of DVD decrypter 3.5.4.0. If you are a real patriot ready to defend our constitution, Please join us! Also we will be getting the source code soon that we should also post for downloading to insure further developments. Let's advertise as much as we can the existance of DVD decrypter 3.5.4.0. that not only decrypt DeCSS but also deal with the latest RipGuard from Macrovision. This is what Macrovision don't want the public the investors and the potential customers to know: Their DRM is BS! (Thanksfully for fair use!) Be aware that Macrovision is persecuting a US citizen in the exercise of his constitutional right. This is a crime. Macrovision is now a criminal organization. More Macrovisions: http://www.macrovision.com/ NS2.MACROVISION.COM 192.156.198.194 NS1.MACROVISION.COM 192.156.198.199 NS3.MACROVISION.COM 194.193.194.137 dns-admin@macrovision.com dns-tech@macrovision.com Software Technologies Group (Installation and Enterprise Products) - Chicago Office 900 National Parkway, Suite 125 Schaumburg, IL 60173-5108 Phone: (847) 466-4000 Fax: (847) 619-0788 Email: info@installshield.com Map to Chicago office Macrovision UK Ltd.: Entertainment Technologies Group and Software Technologies Group (Licensing Products) - Maidenhead office Malvern House 14-18 Bell Street Maidenhead Berkshire , SL6 1BR United Kingdom Phone: +44 870 871 1111 Fax: +44 870 871 1161 Distance Map / Close-up Map Software Technologies Group (Installation and Enterprise Products) - Bristol Office Kings House, 14 Orchard Street Bristol, BS1 5EH United Kingdom Phone: +44 117 903 0650 Fax: + 44 117 903 0641 Email: info@installshield.co.uk Close-up Map Software Technologies Group (Licensing Products) - Cheshire office Vision House, Priory Court Preston Brook, Cheshire, WA7 3FR United Kingdom Phone: +44 870 873 6300 Fax: + 44 192 870 6329 Distance Map / Close-up Map Software Technologies Group (Licensing Products) - German Office Magnolienweg 5 63741 Aschaffenburg Germany Phone: +49 6021 44 99 662 (663) Fax: +49 6021 44 99 668 Software Technologies Group (Licensing Products) - French Office 33 rue de Galillée 75016 Paris France Phone: +33 1 44 43 53 44 Fax: +33 1 44 43 53 91 Close-up Map Macrovision Licensing & Holding B.V. Busitel 1, Orlyplein 85 1043 DS Amsterdam The Netherlands Phone +31-(0)20-403-7673 Facsimile +31-(0)20-403-7676 Map and Directions Asia Region: Macrovision Corporation - Greater China Office Unit 301B, 3/F. Malaysia Building, 50 Gloucester Road, H.K. Phone: +852 2868 5131 Fax: +852 2850 6690 Email: Eric.So@macrovision.com Macrovision Japan and Asia K.K. Takaha Bldg. 2F 6-18-5, Jingumae, Shibuya-ku Tokyo 150-0001 Japan Phone: +81 3 5774 6253 Fax: +81 3 5774 6269 Macrovision Korea Suite 417, Korea City Air Terminal B/D 159-6 Samsung-dong, Kangnam-ku, Seoul 135-728 Korea Phone: +82 2 6241 5700 Fax: +82 2 6241 5701 Mobile: +82 11 779 0445 Map to Korea office Macrovision Corporation - Taiwan Branch Office 6F-13, No. 12, Lane 609, Sec. 5 Chung-Hsin Rd., San-Chung Taipei, Taiwan 241 Phone: +886 2 2999 7979 Fax: +886 2 2999 7575 Email: Keith.Lien@macrovision.com http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/17112
DonL
Posts: 47
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 09:49
If only we could insure the reason copyright was invented in the first place, to protect the artist or originator, not the corporate fat cat hanger-on's! Then again if you are a big enough company with good enough Lawyers you can rip off anybodies ideas! Moneywood is full of little guy's who have had their ideas stolen! Well it will come around to bight them on the bum! There are just to many DVD recorders out their now, By the way my local VideoEzy has put up signs condemning breaching copyright of rented DVD's claiming they will report anyone they suspect of hiring DVD's just to copy them! When I asked them how they would know they claimed to be monitoring their customers rental patterns! Guess who won't be renting from them anymore!
OntzA
Posts: 1
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 12:39
It's unfortunate to see how some companies think they will stop people from making backups of their DVDs if they prosecute individuals whom only desire was to contribute to the Internet comunity with a good freeware software. Do they really think they are winning something with this? They are fools, pretty lame fools. I'm sure Lightning UK now isn't thinking about leaking the source code of DVD Decrypter. What did they exatly tell you? Was there something about source code? You call it "a certain company", are you forbidden to tell us what company is it? This kind of things should be made public, if I knew which company sued Lightning UK I will never ever again buy anything from them, NEVER! What has happened also teach us a lesson to anyone that makes freeware software that deals with protected DVDs (nearly every DVD Video is protected, anyway) they should release source code and make those programas opensource. If something is opensource there's noone to sue, anyone in any country could have contributed and most countrys don't have such restrictive laws. Some people metions about de EU copyright directives, directives aren't obligatory. Each country has his own laws, and as a matter of fact in Spain it's legal to make a private copy of music or movies, the actual LPI (Intelectual Property Law) says explicitly you have the right to make private copies. If you have that right tools to make those copies can't be illegal. I don't know laws in other countries buy I'm sure there are a lot of countries with similar laws. I hope this situation doesn't go to worse... but it seems the tendency is clearly towards more and more restrictive laws, even going against constitutional rights. I don't know if Lightning UK will read this comment but I'll express my sincere gratitude to him, you have done the best aver program to rip DVDs and also to burn ISOs fast and easy. I will continue using it and if that "certain company" wants to go against me I don't fucking care, I am sick of this stupid and narrow minded people. They will create more and more copy protections, more secure, more difficult to break... but they won't succeed, we have the right to make backups of movies we own! My best wishes to Lightning UK! and I hope to see you some day using your programming talent in other great freeware utilities of any kind.
plutox
Posts: 1
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 13:17
Nobody can deny that this is a bad blow, but it is necessary to look forward and the most important thing is to ensure that Lightning's work is not lost to the community. We have to assume that LUK has been coerced into destroying the souce code so he cannot distribute or develop it further. Accordingly, the smartest thing the community could now do is to form a team of suitable individuals whose mission is to reverse engineer the current release of DVDD and place the resultant source code in the public domain. This should enable a fairly straightforward path for future development as and when new approaches by the content creators make it neccessary. Also, the existence of such code in the public domain is likely to be perceived by the media moguls as a significant blow, far outweighing whatever they feel they have gained by supressing Lightning UK and his splendid work.
excitablec2005
Posts: 1
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 13:58
I still am baffled by the way the industries are taking this. Lets go back in time shall we, a time before DVD or CD's there was the cassette tape and radio , every one used to tape their favorite songs from the radio, was that against the law? Then came VHS, oh ya no one ever copied their vhs tapes. Then comes the CD, ok at first there wasnt much of an option to copy a cd. But it didnt take long until the technoldgy became avialble to the public. Then we have the Internet............something we didnt have like we do know back in the days of copying songs from the radio or making copies of our vhs movies. So people began to download their favorite songs for free from the net, please some one tell me how that is any different from copying songs from the radio???!!!! No lawsites were made about that, no banning radio stations???!!!!! So then comes Napster and all of a sudden the music industry throws a fit and want every one to stop. OK they were shut down for a while but as soon as they were how many hum=ndres more sites came up the very next day. There is no way to stop this just as there was no way to stop people years ago from coping from the radio. Now we have the elemnt of DVD's, yes they are better then vhs, but they become damaged very easily, its not like they are scratch resisitant. So people have come up with ways to protect their costly investments by backing those up just as they did the old VHS movies. And it really amazes me to think the same people who want every thing shut down that involves coping what they paid top dollar for. They turn around and manufacture and sell the computers, the the writers and burners and bring the prices down so every one can afford one and then say, sorry you can not use this! It is being stopped! Up untill the big craze of download music on the net every thing is turning into Napster all over again with everything involving technology. It is just plain crap!!!!!!!!!! Ok now they dont want DVD Decrypter used any more..................well what about the other who knows how many hundreds of programs there are out now and yet to come out that will do the same if not more. Here is a question?? Did shutting down Napster stop the people of the world from downloading music??? hell no, there are more people downloading music now then ever before and do they really think that people will not be able to backup their DVD's just because this one program is going. ???? They are just pissed that they are not making billions of $$$$$$ from this program! Well the person that made it should be able to do as they wish with it, sell it or give it away. So many counties claim to be free but are they really????? How controls how we live, we try to but the big man always steps in to say no you can not do that. But here I will give you all the equipment you need to do that you just can not use it. It is all a bunch of crap!!!!!!! I belive there will come a day when the people begin to take back our freedoms and kick the big man at the top right in the A____!!!!!!! Live and let live, If you take into consideration how many people buy CD's and DVD's and simply replace them when they get damaged, in comparison to the small amount of people that are backing their investments up there is no way that theones backing up there investments are going to hurt the profits from those that make the Cd's and DVD's. Granted there are thousands of poeple now using this technology, but that is a very small number compared to the billions that do not or do not knwo how to. I am shocked to see this happen! But I wont worry there will be another one just like it. I wont be called by the same name and it may not be designed by the same person but it will be out there. Many thanks to all the time and hard work that was put into this great program that we have all come to love. :X
machiner
Posts: 16
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 14:12
It's clear that we, consumers and sheep, are spouting complete nonesense. We're angry that corporations keep taking away our liberties and we're angry at our politicians for being so easy to bully, and so easily bought off. When I was young there was honor in America. Not so anymore. It used to be that you would hear "don't trust anybody over 30". I don't trust anybody under 30. You gen-xers, and that gen-Y, all you want is your MTV and you think you have something to say. You want quick, flashy, and you want it for YOU. You join the military so they'll pay for college, and you don't care that you end up in some other country killing people so your president and his buddies can get richer. Really, you're pretty pathetic as a group. My demo isn't much better - we're late 30's and we have families, or we're in jail for smoking pot, or we're unemployed because of corporations inablilty to operate efficiently, etc...etc...but we're chumps, too. And we say - "I have a family! I have to fall-in-line". There is no honor in America. Take a look in the mirror - you - still using Microsoft products? You've got NOTHING to say. You're falling right in line where you "need" to be. Can't use Linux - I"LL HELP YOU! You want to complain about these greedy and savage companies (really, what are they protecting -- the CEO's and shareholders pocket, that's all) and you go buy their latest POS product as soon as you can. WOW - the new PS3! Cool, I've GOT to have it. YOU are the reason companies are getting away with this. That old rediculous comment that we old folks say to our kids rings more true every day, you have no idea... "When I was a kid we had to walk to school - up hill - both ways - in the snow - on our knees" Again - It's YOUR fault (and your stupid, lazy parent's for encouraging and helping you) that we are in the state we are in. Thanks alot. machiner
FreqNasty
Posts: 624
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 15:38
Does this mean you are admitting to copying them when you hire them and are afraid of being caught? :d
Pianoman
Posts: 952
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 15:53
In the future, I will think even more before I buy an original DVD...If I truely need the stuff or not...just to not support these companies anymore! :r
Bladegash
Posts: 34
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 16:28
I probably speak for many when I say that I really, really want to know for sure who is responsible. Sony? Macrovision? It's time the community gave hell to the criminals responsible for this.
bcn_246
Posts: 3626
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 16:53
Allright, we all know Sony and Macrovison suck, but what they did isnt criminal, so **** that. Edited cuss word! Tsk tsk Ben!
[edited by Crabbyappleton on 07.06.2005 17:20]
Mad Burner
Posts: 186
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 19:31
Many thanks to LIGHTNING UK for all his hard work on DVD Decrypter!! He is truly the father of ripping :X MB
satrianez
Posts: 35
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 20:05
Hey... why can't DVDDecrypter remain available in France ? See http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/11710 "What consumer protection groups have not yet succeeded in gaining for CDs, they have just obtained for DVDs. On April 22nd, the Paris Court of Appeal prohibited the use of DVD-based copy protection systems. The reason? The incompatibility of this practice with private copying rights." ... and what better tool than DVDDecrypter to allow the french to exercise their private copying rights ? In fact, I think DVDDecrypter, being free and working so well, should be declared inalienable and unattackable because it's one of the few tools that allow you to make a Macrovision-free copy of your own DVD as declared legal in French laws. What do you think of that ? (I don't think that'll bring DVDDecrypter back so soon... still, this should open a debate...)
shelki
Posts: 2
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 20:11
I typed to you Lightning on Afterdawn. Like I said, those weasels and parasites will get theirs! They pretend to be so HOLY, and most of those gov't, and Hollywood moguls/owners of studios...this will all come back to them! They pick you as the "scapegoat," while they do their crimes openly and covertly, needless to say--THEY GET AWAY WITH what they do. I thank you for you genius and generosity. Your kindness to share, what a blessing. You will go far, and these people will not be able to stop your genius. I will miss your genius. I am so sad to see a mind like yours being attacked by those money hungry BAST...S! How dare they? Seriously, I will miss you. What they are doing to the public is the REAL crime. G-d Bless you. You have been so generous. If you come back, pls contact me!
shelki
Posts: 2
Posted on: 07 Jun 05 20:25
Let me tell you, now you know why this world has gone crazy. Innocent people get doomed while the real theives get a walk in the park, if they have money. This is a crime. METALLICA just had to start this Napster. Now the Hollywod Moguls, gov't. crooked officials are getting on the band wagon. Now I see why people rebel. What a SAD world we live in. Yes, as you can see, I am SO UPSET AND ANGRY.....Don't they have better things to do? Maybe find Al-Queda terriorists, and the Big Shots of the movie and music business contribute to the cause of protecting our country? Instead they cry about nothing. Aren't there mansions and fancy automoblies, and huge expense accounts enough? Let us not forget all of their servants! I DESPISE THEM!
MrGrey
Posts: 1
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 01:41
Well never much been one for copy dvd or cd but as soon as i read this i hunted down the program and dl'd it straight away... Stick'n it 2 the machine is a moral obligation for all descent human beings. Long live the REVOLUTION!
GURU07
Posts: 26
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 01:48
this is total bullshit ! ther is a war coming !an internet terrorist war and the big corportations will lose out like never before! bring it on!
bluray
Posts: 21
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 02:39
In case you need it here is another place besides Doom9 where you can get the DVD Decrypter file. Everyone should follow MrGrays action and DL this file while we still can. :d
YACDF
Posts: 3
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 04:33
I very strongly suggest that people watch the documentary "The Corporation" released on DVD this year. It will explain a lot, and it offers some ideas about what can realistically be done to improve the situation.
kwkard
Posts: 1813
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 08:27
well lightning uk has a great feture in decrypter - import/export psl. All LUK or someone else (if he tells us how) has to do is release psl (protected sector list) of any new protections that come out and DVD D can handle them **** DRM bullshit. This pisses me off so much I would fight it (Sony??) if I was him, but I respect his decision. ouch my virgin ears! removed cussword.
[edited by Crabbyappleton on 08.06.2005 15:16]
cornjuice
Posts: 20
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 11:44
Who sued Lightning UK? SOme compaNY
Liggy
Posts: 6583
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 14:11
We'll see as soon as his domain is transfered...
FidelC
Posts: 987
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 16:36
Ok, here is my 2 cents. I kind of liked the post from machiner. We, the consumers, with our consumer appetites lubed with fancy commercials and made up fashions and trends are the cause and the reason why corps like M-soft and other bloom. I understand, we cannot boycot the whole industries like movies and make companies go bankrupt. There are only few of us who make concious choices, .... and up until now i wasnt in this number. What we can try though, is to limit our dependancy on corps. Buy a computer - only by parts, only from honest manufacturers who dont screw you with spyware, DRM and other garbage, only those who support alternative OS drivers. Winshite - to the recycle bin, even if gotten for free. The same way is Internet explorer and service packs. total independance form the crooks! They call anything of 12 cm a CD - dont buy it unless its clean and meets the CD specs, get your music any other way, check out Indie. As for this case, lets wait and see wether the bastards were Sony. Up to this point i bought their media in jewel CD cases. Reason- nice brown paper insert, you turn it upside down and it looks ok on the shelf. Well guess what, it'llbe a little inconvenience for me , but i will screw you guys. and so will thousands of cd freaks. We are the buying power when it comes to media. And you'll have to close your plants and Arccoss yourself in the arsss. Best wishes. FidelC
georgedimgd
Posts: 51
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 22:57
Don't worry my friends. Go to www.d-c-s.info and you will not regret it.
Primergy
Posts: 31
Posted on: 08 Jun 05 23:41
I want to use this opportunity to really THANK LighningUK! for all the time and work he invested in DVD-Decryptor and into the scene! DVD Decryptor is not gone.. it has a place on many HDDs! And it will take quite a while until it"s forgotten. havent seen "The Corporation" yet.. but you might also learn from "The Crimson Permanent Assurance" (it"s part of Monty Phyton"s "Meaning of Live") :g
machiner
Posts: 16
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 02:22
Why not just use Linux? Want help or info -- PM me, or goto my tutorial site: Debian Tutorials I'm not the best writer but I get a lot of thankful emails. Wait 'til you see what WIndows and the rest of those (expletive) have in store for us. Well, in store for you. machiner
[edited by machiner on 09.06.2005 02:23]
[edited by machiner on 09.06.2005 02:26]
LastStand
Posts: 321
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 03:26
Thanks for the Linux links I have tried three times to move to linux (Fendora) and can anyone leak the source code. Link Link
[edited by LastStand on 09.06.2005 03:35]
fthemovies
Posts: 1
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 03:56
I want to add my thanks to LUK! also. Also thanks to all the people on the forum who took time from their day to help people (Cornholio, kenajidin, mr fixer, blutach to name afew). This is a terrible thing. The people of the world should stop buying DVDs entirely. I know movies are great, I have many, but how much are the consumers willing to put up with? I am at the end of my rope with the entire entertainment industry. Suing little kids, suing freeware providers. Bunk. I have purchased over 200 DVDs in the past three years, but I don't think I will continue. Looks like it is time to find a new interest. I will not support companies who bully innocent programmers. F them. They are only hurting themselves, or at least that is the way we should make it.:r
AlanD
Posts: 2
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 04:43
This thread got me thinking: Of course, there are bigger vested interests in Copy-Right than afforded the Right-to-Copy activists (pirates). Everyone 'copies' (DNA replication being the most fundamental to our species) - yet we found whole economies on the notion that Copy-Right-Protection is a divine entitlement of commercial-institutions. Law is hereby largely effective only to those who can afford it. Ethical and moral behaviour are the constituents of a just-life, yet, common-law is constructed more to sustain the self-interests of Lawyers than for the encouragement of social behaviour that uplifts our species through education towards higher understanding of fundamental responsibilities of individuals. The LAW tends to copy the dominant lobby rather than the appropriate ethical or moral principal? In essence everyone has the right-to-copy - it is what we do with the COPY that is ethically questionable - IMO, the DILEMMA is mute when we copy-for-self (within the reasonableness of means) and Copy-Right-Protection becomes a hypocrisy when we review the divisive constraints imposed by PRICE and COST and CONSEQUENCE with the pretensions of a Global Economy to benefit all regardless of the cost of daily-life. A Global-Economy is not fair until we are all empowered by equal income - in the meantime this devise is exploitive - it is promoted by the economically empowered and permitted by the naive, or those who choose to consume their wares in spite of the knowing. The technologies of our age will get used according to the needs of the users - gross economic disparities provoke illicit and un-ethical behaviour - to what good purpose do we 'use' a copy? - waste is the common consequence of frivolous indulgences? - the 'copy' (emulation) of good behaviour is a worthy and commendable pursuit - the copy, or emulation, of corruption still appeals to many whose egos are capable of being drawn to such compromise? We the contemporary humanity are hereby, a strange bunch of enigmatic creatures pretending that self-preservation, individually and institutionally, is more important than any consideration for others. Hypocrisy is, too often, being copied! The 'questions' regarding Right-to-Copy ultimately lies with the individual ethic and moral perspective - there is little doubt that the blatantly exploitive counterfeit 'industry' is a threat to the endeavours of the 'original' - the 'challenge' to 'crack' protection systems is an open invitation to indulgent egos with time or a grudge, however, encouraging customers with value-for-money will always be the means by which the fair-market-consumer will sponsor good creation. The questionable divisive antics practiced by the dominant examples like Microsoft, and those that emulate their business model, have incited the disaffected into a hostile counter-creativity for which their ONLY protection is common-law and its enforcement? The contest between the moral and ethical behaviour of business and the individual's perceptions of right and responsibilities are seen to be the same in principal BUT, in practice, anything goes that can be got-away-with. In the meantime, the presumed Right-to-Copy is a thinly disguised, sometimes-un-lawful, activity slightly levelling the playing fields and delaying the drive for a Global-Economy. Live-performance is being 'copied' by Film, Video, DVD etc.... but it is likely to out-survive Digital Technology for a few more years yet? Undoubtedly there are many other factors worthy of consideration in regard to this issue - cloning is the pretend-creation of Biologists and genetics - undoubtedly the Digital-World will be copied, in whole of part, one day soon :S
machiner
Posts: 16
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 05:01
Quote:
Of course, there are bigger vested interests in Copy-Right than afforded the Right-to-Copy activists (pirates).
It was fun being called a "pirate" when I was 10 years old. In today's climate - you should watch how you toss that word around, bub. Right-to-Copy activists aren't "pirates" Pirates are pirates. Get it? machiner
AlanD
Posts: 2
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 05:07
Right-to-Copy activists aren't "pirates" Pirates are pirates. Significanly, my 'pirates' were in () and without CAPITAL letters
machiner
Posts: 16
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 05:58
You think that matters to ANYONE hearing (or reading) the word? Please. It's not even sly or ambiguous.
hqs
Posts: 118
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 09:20
The "Company" is probably MacroVision as they sued 321 Studios. MacroVision admits to taking part in closing eBay auctions as well that infringe on their protection...it's them or Sony DADC - I'd put my money on MacroShit.
bl4s
Posts: 2
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 11:04
very saad. thanks for the hardwork Lightning UK we'll miss you
Homie_Smurf
Posts: 1
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 11:20
I think we as consumers should boycott the whole industry Movie and Music!!! We can all bring them to their knees in no time if we all cooperate and not buy a single movie or CD for the next few months enough to put a big dent in their pockets and then we'll all see who the boss is ... THE CONSUMER!!! We pay their salaries. Without us buying software, movies or music they can't exist. LET'S DO IT TOGETHER ... WE CAN MAKE ADIFFERENCE AND NOT LET THE COURTS AND ATTORNEYS TAKE OUR RIGHTS AWAY.
rca29
Posts: 6
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 13:29
First of all, Thank You Lightning UK! for providing a great piece of software. You did the right thing, there's no point in trying to fight them... But imho, this is like a drop of water in the ocean ! DVDdecrypter will be available for a long time (mirrors aren't the only way to get it) and the current version is widely developed, and this 'measure' won't stop anyone who wants to backup a dvd ! Take the example of the copy controlled cd's: They are the first ones to be available in mp3 and p2p networks, and anyone with the right drive and software will make a backup of it just like any other regular cd. The industry may try to create some new technologies, but there will always be someone that finds a way to get around it. In other words, this is only another useless measure from the 'big ones'...:r
roadworker
Posts: 749
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 20:42
Rumours are,that it's not Sony,but Macrovision that started this......because they are afraid that their new protection "ripguard" is reversed by DvdDecrypter before they actuallly have licensed it to the big movie companies......
BlackAdder60
Posts: 16
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 21:03
Thank you Lightning UK for everything.
jer2911tx
Posts: 3
Posted on: 09 Jun 05 21:28
props to Lightning UK! i have a feeling that someone will step up and an option to dvd decrypter will be around as long as forums are around to discuss the issue, someone will always be able to recommend an alternative /i hope
LNielsen76
Posts: 4
Posted on: 10 Jun 05 00:46
AnyDVD CloneDVD VOB Blanker DVD43 SmartRipper DVDShrink Vobrator vStrip I guess this is all we have left to work with unless any of you guys can think of other programs that descramble DVDs. :r
Womble
Posts: 4748
Posted on: 10 Jun 05 01:06
My favourite DVD busting program gone. Thanks for such a great program Lightning. Good luck in your future endeavours. Gone but never forgotten. DVD Decrypted '“ THE Ultimate DVD Ripper '“ R.I.P 2005 Womble
Liggy
Posts: 6583
Posted on: 10 Jun 05 18:10
It's Friday now and a whois shows that the domain still isn't transferred.
raydog1
Posts: 16
Posted on: 11 Jun 05 02:15
I tried all the rest, but this one was the best! Good luck in da future dood. Your skillz will most certainly be missed. :c MPAA: For all you do, deez nutz are for you! :d
TheScotster
Posts: 13
Posted on: 11 Jun 05 20:55
In all the years I've been reading the CDFreaks news (and it's been many) I don't think I've been more upset and disappointed about something. There is no praise high enough for what you've done with DVDD Lightning - it was just *that* good. You created a work of art *and* gave it away to others without thinking about your pocketbook. *THIS* is at least part of the reason the big bad corporation came after you: they can't have people like you setting such examples! It's bad for *THEIR* pocketbooks. They are the antithesis of what you stand for, and you of them: greed and stupidity VS selflessness and intelligence. I am so tired of seeing the latter lose out lately! Best wishes in whatever your next endeavor will be.
GURU07
Posts: 26
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:15
i have to agree that before Lightening gives in without a whimper [unfortunately prob too late] . he should at least check out the facts of what the anonymos company that is threatening him can and cant do. there is a lot of stuff going on that they just cannot do.
GURU07
Posts: 26
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:19
we in general must become much more aware of our rights or we will see this happen more and more when a lot ar only bluffing there way on to unexpected victims. n e way thanks to lightening for a very good program . i thought it was the best infact , so it will be used even more now and he will be remembered every time i use it!
LIGHTNING UK!!
Posts: 6
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:23
http://www.dvddecrypter.r8.org I just would like to spread the word and let everyone know, you can now find DVD Decrypter at: http://www.dvddecrypter.r8.org It took a lot of time to get this site back up, and it would be nice if someone could help me find a new development team and more places to host DVD Decrypter for download!
DoMiN8ToR
Posts: 9067
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:33
Beware! This user has not been confirmed to be the original Lightning UK and uses a different IP address from a location that is not the location we know he should be living close to. This could be very well someone faking LUK for some reason. I would like to ask the user to contact me and to give evidence that he is the real LUK.
LIGHTNING UK!!
Posts: 6
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:39
Sorry for the confusion, I am LIGHTNING UK!'s cousin I live on US Terroritory! We communicate mostly by E-mail! When I found out about his site being shut down, I helped him out by putting it back up!
TheScotster
Posts: 13
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:43
That sounds pretty darn fishy. LUK was very specific that this was THE END. Now this? I am hopeful, but very doubtful.
Liggy
Posts: 6583
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:45
I don't trust him either. He said that he lives on "US Terroritory". According to his IP, he lives somewhere else.
Goudo
Posts: 458
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 00:53
The fake LUK using redirection site r8.org and the new host was created today"dvddecrypter.r8.org 06/11 04:29 PM" I guess time is USA East Coast. I also think that LUK would have registered a more creative handle
Crabbyappleton
Posts: 5757
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 01:03
He can't even spell programmer. Lightning UK would NEVER make a call for more programmers under a cease and desist order. He would not want to get anyone in trouble. This is some kind of scam or worse IMHO. As stated in the above article- "The domain name will be transferred over to the company by the end of the week (9th June, according to the undertakings I have to sign) so don"t email it thinking "Oh, I"ll just ask LIGHTNING UK! for support on this". You"ll not be getting the intended recipient and could be landing yourself in sh1t!"
[edited by Crabbyappleton on 12.06.2005 01:06]
Goudo
Posts: 458
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 01:23
Edit: I found the site, not mine. Some usefull compilation of links http://www.dvdhelp.us/dvddecrypter/dvddecrypter.html This page/mini-site is presented to you free of charge in protest of the recent unhappy actions taken against Lightning UK!, the owner of www.dvddecrypter.com and, of course, the DVD Decrypter program itself.
[edited by Goudo on 12.06.2005 02:42]
Wesociety
Posts: 5230
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 01:26
If the download file is authentic, at least it makes the program accessible to more people. The more hosts the better. But the "deception" and "white lies" are something that we do not need !!!
TheScotster
Posts: 13
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 02:07
I love your site Goudo. Fantastic job, especially with all the wording. Hopefully DVDD can live happily there for a good long time.
Goudo
Posts: 458
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 02:37
NOT MY SITE! I just found the link and share it Sorry for the confusion.
dealmaster00
Posts: 56
Posted on: 12 Jun 05 04:22
@ goudo: LMAO :B @ LIGHTNING UK!!: thats the biggest load of BS i have ever heard :r edit: hmm, i went to this new site, and to my surprise it seems legit...i thought it would just be some spam/bogus search engine redirect, but its not. of course i have no idea if its truly legit, i guess only time can tell...
[edited by dealmaster00 on 12.06.2005 04:36]
NBR
Posts: 1322
Posted on: 13 Jun 05 21:29
this is a damn shame... screw those b*stards that pressureed him to stop his devolopement of dvd decrypter. that was BY FAR my favorite program for decrypting dvd's! o well... i wish him the best of luck with his future
thejake420
Posts: 4
Posted on: 14 Jun 05 04:37
Re: http://www.dvdhelp.us/dvddecrypter/dvddecrypter.html Actually, it's my site. 9I'm Jake, the owner of DVDHelp.us, and long-time lurker around here. (Usually too busy with my own sites to actively participate in other forums.) Anyway, yes... the page is legitimate, and officially part of the DVDHelp.us site. The download links will be updated as needed, since the file may be hosted by one site today but not tomorrow, etc. On a side note, I'm surprised you didn't know DVDHelp.us offhand... After all, it's one of the "big name" video sites... DVDHelp.us, Digital-Digest.com, Videohelp.com, CD Freaks, Doom9.org, Afterdawn.com... they're all big sources for video help, and each one has it's own specialty. Some have better guides than others, and some focus on the forum more than others, etc. But all 6 sites should definitely be in your bookmarks. PS - I just added a Mega-search to DVDHelp.us. You can search the sites (or just the forums) of all of the above-named sites (except CD Freaks... haven't gotten to them yet since they're only partially video-related), and as of right now, you can browse 3 of the forums from one page (when you click a thread, you go to the appropriate site/page). The rest of the sites will be added as I can get to them (and as the individual webmasters do any necessary work to make their forums available through RSS, etc.) Anyway, the page will be around for good. I have no intention of letting it disappear. Jake
[edited by DoMiN8ToR on 15.06.2005 00:10]
SmallLittle
Posts: 85
Posted on: 26 Jun 05 10:07
Work for dvdidle lightning! they are chinese! All is possible in china! no limitation! no more problem. Think to it! (you will be surely payed for your work...)
Pusekatt
Posts: 1
Posted on: 26 Jun 05 14:18
Move yourself or your work to NORWAY. The parliament over here has just passed new Laws, and contrary to "EU standards" they still made it legal to decrypt coded CDs/DVDs. It is so much a question of personal liberty over here, that if you own a DVD or CD, you should be permitted to do what you want with it, so that is why the law was passed the way it was. Earlier we had Jon Lech Johansen winning his case all the way up to the Supreme Court. No one can do a thing about it:X. See his blog page: http://www.nanocrew.net/ Next thing coming over here is warnings on encrypted stuff in the shops, like on the cigaret packages:d
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 30 Jun 05 21:57
LUK :d Jake fake ass wannabes!
NozzaC
Posts: 2
Posted on: 21 Jul 05 12:02
Obviously it's bad news for peope wanting to take copies of DVDs but what do you expect the big publishers to do?! Let's face it, the majority of ripping and burning is done to take copies of films without paying for them and a small proportion is done to rip them and post them on the net as AVI's that allows 1000s of others to get without paying. Sure some people want to back-up films they've paid for but not all that many. This is the shape of things to come. You cannot expect companies to invest millions only to have people steal from them. First they will go after the software firms and sites and then they will try to get to the end-stealers. We've all had a free ride courtesy of poor protection schemes and the delay in getting the laws sorted out. This won't last forever. Globalisation means that countries with dodgy copyright laws will start toeing the line and more advanced protection will make it harder. Make hay whilst the sun shines but don't moan that people are trying to stop us stealing their products as if it's some freedom or "human rights" issue cos it ain't.
hammer_d
Posts: 2
Posted on: 21 Jul 05 13:48
NozzaC, you seem to be the authority to give us more detailed info on the available data that shows that the majority of ripping is done to "steal" from the " big fast money" Show us your data that proves this blatant nonsense. The software is intended to protect clients who paid, to make a copy for backup purposes, wich -unlegally- is made difficult by all sorts of defense tricks. So prove your allegiations! America as example for freedom!! It's becoming a big sad laugh. And, more in general what I'm curious about: Has there been one attorney out there, that has stepped forward to defend LUK for free against this unfair & unproportional attack from "big money" denno
abcee
Posts: 5
Posted on: 06 Aug 05 00:03
hammer_d, stop with that bull. Everyboy knows that NozzaC is telling the truth. Don't try to make others believe that the majority uses this kind of software to make backups of their movies, you just make a complete fool of yourself. All that enthusiasm for products like these to make boring backups…yeah, right! The thing is that millions of people steal, whether it's software, music or videos and once a company tries to put a halt to it, they all start whining and bitching and complain about their 'freedom'. The fact that you think you're paying too much for movies doesn't give you the right to steal them, can't you get that through your brain? Just because you can't win, just because customers aren't able to bring the price down, we just have the right steal, right? Call that logic?!?! All I'm trying to say is this; developments for Decrypter come to a halt, accept it like a man, instead of a whining child.
trident5
Posts: 2
Posted on: 09 Aug 05 22:59
First id like to say thanks for all your great work on this products and best of luck to you. TO the people suggesting he release the source code or somthing else to seriously get his ass in trouble.. do this Go down to bank get morgage on your home ..take your $50,000 to $500,000 whatever you get and send it to the author or each week take your chk from work endorse and send it to the author of this program else shut the hell up... Think its awfull for you to even suggest for somone to ruin his life for your sorry asses.. again best of luck to you in future your my dvd god
grias
Posts: 1
Posted on: 14 Aug 05 08:06
Gotta agree with NozzaC and abcdee. NozzaC is speaking the truth, most people are using Decryter to steal. Whining about the 'man' because he's successful smacks of jealously more than anything else. America (and incidently this appears to be a British issue) but anyway, America and other democratic free countries are places where anyone with a good idea can make themselves successful, if people could just come along and steal someone's good ideas or product how fair and 'free' would that be? You whiners would be the first ones to complain if you worked an honest day and someone ripped you off. Lets face it, its been a great ride and Decrypter was awesome and as others have said its more user friendly than 'professional' programs out there. Kudos to LUK. They'll never stop this however...
hammer_d
Posts: 2
Posted on: 15 Aug 05 01:35
So only subjective opinions until now, I asked for the DATA from wich would be clear how often this backup program ia MISUSED. Show us FACTS, no unsympathetic bullying down, please. denno
eimaj2nz
Posts: 2
Posted on: 16 Aug 05 23:45
I'd like to put a slightly different spin on things here. Rather than asking for Lightning UK to release *all* of the source code, why not release the source code *without* and of the copyright circumvention stuff? DVD Decrypter has a number of useful features that can be used on non-copy-protected DVD's, and it's a shame for all of that perfectly legal code to go to waste. This need not be a difficult task. Any code functions that perform copy protection removal can just be stripped down to leave the data as it is. As the copy protection code is what That Company is complaining about, if that code is removed, there should be no more complaints... Lightning UK could check with legal council over this one, but I do believe that this is a valid (and litigation-free) course of action.
eimaj2nz
Posts: 2
Posted on: 17 Aug 05 00:14
The important thing to note here is that if the source code (without the copy protection stuff) is in the public domain, and the license allowed it (e.g. GPL), any third party can then create derivative works based on that code. Lightning could still work on and maintain the original code release (the DVD processing side of things), so long as that project made sure that no copy-protection code was ever introduced into that code. Of course, a completely unrelated third party could then take that code and put back the copy protection code that was removed. However, this would be out of the control of Lightning UK, and thus Lightning could not be the target of future legal action. Again, I am no lawyer, but I can't see any problem with this. If someone can still get hold of the original Lightning, perhaps they can pass this suggestion along. (And if anyone has a legal background, perhaps they can verify/dismiss my suggestion.)
ConAir
Posts: 2
Posted on: 18 Aug 05 19:27
I found out about this corporations hunting game today. Unfortunately they didn't kill the pray yet they just wounded it. Heads up Lightning UK! Don't let them kill your creativity. Maybe you should seek for a better legal advice and support (a better Lawyer). I know they cost a hell lot of money, but I believe that if we all contribute it could be done. Maybe you should consider this option. I think there are thousands out there willing to help in any way they can. Thank you for all you did offer us users so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't let your baby die.
ConAir
Posts: 2
Posted on: 18 Aug 05 19:39
I just finished reading all commends posted here. To some of you (talking about stealing like the commend Posted by abcee on 06 August 2005 ) I wand to say stealing from the thieves is an act of grace. Or maybe you know a better way to fuck them back a little bit the way they fuck us constantly.
quijavu
Posts: 1
Posted on: 24 Aug 05 07:49
Well the best we all can do is to unite and boycott who ever did this, if we don´t buy they don´t make money and that will be really bad for them :g, lest support the people like L-UK.
Ajaxisdemigod
Posts: 1
Posted on: 12 Sep 05 20:45
reverse engineering is the answer :d anybody who has knowlage c++ .net C# J# knows there is a way to do so becouse there is no exe with out the source code in it... take apart the installed product and you got what you need you can use the exes code to make a new sorce... yeah it might have holes in it but still you have what you need make other programs
wilderbeast
Posts: 6
Posted on: 02 Oct 05 03:26
Don't be ashamed of your decision! It was the ONLY one you could have made. Instead, hold your head up high knowing how much you've helped all of us with the best software ever! Thank you and hope all goes as well as it possibly could for you.
molitar
Posts: 202
Posted on: 18 Nov 05 08:24
DAMN.. Wish people would wise up in this damn world! Boycott the movies! Boycott the music cd's! Hurt them where it counts that is the only way to fight these assholes. I haven't bought a single cd since all the suing has started. Refuse to buy their crap. And I went from seeing a movie a week to maybe one movie in a 2 month if that period. Usually will find it for download somewhere's again because I'm not giving them my money. BASTARDS can rot for all I care.
Legirons
Posts: 4
Posted on: 24 Nov 05 08:56
It is so darn funny how people think!!!! These companies are huge, they are greedy and only want more. The fact is that we have the right to be able to back up any data that we have bought, they are not suppose to be allowed to extract from that! When they can get their foot in the door we have lost the battle, well we have lost that battle because their foot is in the door, but let's not lose the war. The war has not been lost until the last man or woman are standing. It is a real shame that we have allowed things to get as far as they have. For example take a look at the 16th ammendment to the US Constitution, before it was in place the government was under control, the people were the government, now they walk all over us. "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration." Read that statement please. Can you believe that we allowed this to happen to ourselves? That sounds like the Mafia to me. We are allowing the government to take every last right we have and hand it over to them. By them I mean to them, the people we pay to run the government get paid hand over fist, by their so called income and the companies pay them to vote in their direction. People wake up and smell the roses, stand up for our rights, because if you don't, who will? It won't be the politicians when they benefit from out demise. Those of you who boo hoo over these companies right to make more and more money, think about that every time prices increase. Remember when we could go to the theatre and watch a movie for a few dollars? Remember when cable TV was about $20.00 a month? They have everyone fooled into believing they are taking losses. They aren't losing, we are. They make it difficult to just get by from day to day with these outrageous prices on everything. My goodness think about what's going on here. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. There are only a handful of people that own all of these companies in comparison to how many people there are in this world. Who own the stocks in these companies? The rich. They take our jobs overseas because they can pay them a quarter instead of us a decent wage to live on, so what do we have left? Maybe a McDonalds job so we can say hello may I take your order to the people vacationing here with our dollars? They will never ever have enough money if we just keep handing it to them. How many people can send their children to college? How many families need to have 2 incomes just to make it from month to month? Most people are a month from being homeless if we lost our jobs tomorrow. You think they care about us and where we are going to sleep next month? No way!!! Our president is giving all our money away as I am writing this message, you think that he isn't profiting from it? Of course he is. His friend over here and over there gets this job and that job, and he gets his cut. If we don't stand up and say wait a second what's going on here, we are not going to have anything left at all soon. I can't believe that we aren't in the middle of a Revolution yet, because it is going to happen it's just a matter of time when the working class are going to be tired of paying for the lazy class. The working class pays for everything while the lazy class do not. And the rich, yes the rich, they have their yachts and limosines, and ferraris to write off his taxes at the end of the year because they had to have it to impress another client in order to get this contract or that contract. Pretty soon if not already, there will be no middle class. There will only be the have's and the have nots.
Xin-taX
Posts: 1
Posted on: 02 Dec 05 17:25
I only started using the program and this is an A-rate program dearest. That Antigua thing is actually good. There are still some sites that provide it right? What if each of us would 'spread the love' and offer it our sites or make copies of it... etc. Spread it until Macrovision can't go any more MACRO and give up on trying to go after everyone. It is unfair that bigger companies can boot small programmers because the small ones can create programs that can rival or go around the restrictions of the bigger ones... but the small programmers can't stand up against the bigger ones. But Legirons, I think, started reading up on the Constitution... Maybe we can find a way for LIGHTING UK to go around this legal matter... the WWW is our playground... There was a time when we can do almost anything for free. Now, doing something for free is dubbed opensourcing or freeware-ing... In some places they even call in theft and piracy... Call it whatever you want but I really don't think I will stand around and watch this place to be overrun by money. Before you know it, they will be charging you for every letter that you type. Don't let this happen... Online Capitalism WILL GO DOWN!
GENERAL100
Posts: 1
Posted on: 12 Dec 05 17:08
LIGHTNING..., Wish ya Named the Damn Company., the Pricks --- Anyhow, they can suk my Pretty Johnson.., .... AND --> :S :S HERE YA GO EVERYONE :X :X !!! THIS LINK IS STILL LIVE !!! GET ON IT !!@!@!!! .. real quick like .. http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/DVD_Decrypter/1011845169/1 ... and You're Quite Welcome.. Thanks are Directed to the Legendary UK LIGHTINING.., One Hell of a Guy !! Signed, The GENERAL. ___________________ __________________________________ :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g :g
micray83
Posts: 2
Posted on: 22 Dec 05 03:01
What's stopping someone from secretly asking this guy for the sourcecode, giving it another name in his honor, continuing development w/ updates posted on a decentralized source, and ultimately from here on out, keeping it on the down-low? Hello! No offense though I wish this guy, LIGHTNING UK! could stop being a law abiding chicken sh1t about getting busted for leaking his source code. Like they can prove that, if he did! So what is the deal, LIGHTNING UK!? You want you work to live on to see another day or what? I wouldn't let these big corporate ass clowns have their way me I know that for sure. Jee wiz :+
micray83
Posts: 2
Posted on: 22 Dec 05 03:38
What's stopping someone from secretly asking this guy for the sourcecode, giving it another name in his honor, continuing development w/ updates posted on a decentralized location, and ultimately from here on out, keeping it on the down-low? Hello! No offense though I wish this guy, LIGHTNING UK! could stop being a law abiding chicken sh1t about getting busted for leaking his source code. Like they can prove that, if he did! So what is the deal, LIGHTNING UK!? You want your work to live on to see another day or what? I wouldn't let these big corporate ass clowns have their way me I know that for sure. Jee wiz :+
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Posted on: 24 Dec 06 22:52
Tanks To ThE HaCkEr he obtained a copy of dvd decyrter of the guy and has given :B it to me so ive added it on to a torrent site and a download link http://rapidshare.com/files/8825757/DVD_Decrypter_3.5.4.0._WwW.DivxTotal.CoM_.exe.html :B :B :B :B :B :B :B :r :r :r :g :g :g
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Posted on: 24 Dec 06 22:53
http://rapidshare.com/files/8825757/DVD_Decrypter_3.5.4.0._WwW.DivxTotal.CoM_.exe.html http://rapidshare.com/files/8825757/DVD_Decrypter_3.5.4.0._WwW.DivxTotal.CoM_.exe.html http://rapidshare.com/files/8825757/DVD_Decrypter_3.5.4.0._WwW.DivxTotal.CoM_.exe.html http://rapidshare.com/files/8825757/DVD_Decrypter_3.5.4.0._WwW.DivxTotal.CoM_.exe.html http://rapidshare.com/files/8825757/DVD_Decrypter_3.5.4.0._WwW.DivxTotal.CoM_.exe.html
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Posted on: 27 Mar 07 17:28
ok
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Posted on: 01 May 07 08:44
Hello, California has always had some type of problem-maybe it is the water and the DNA base. It is nearing the time for the SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION. This time it is major oppression with no resolution. WE NEED to hit "THEM" where it hurts, THEIR STOCK PRICES AND FAT COMMISSIONS.. Boycot their products for a few years and the BIG-WIG HEADS will roll. . Good luck to everyone.
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Posted on: 11 May 07 16:21
make it open source and rest care wud be taken by open source community
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Posted on: 19 May 07 11:17
I reside in an EU country that legally permits me to have backups of any media I purchase, but the law is clear - no circumventing the dvd protection. So they supply an address for the ministry responsible for you to apply to make a copy. When they approve your request (which is not a problem with proof of purchase), they provide you with a master copy that you can copy from. Neat and simple, isn't it? Try telling that to my three year old, when numerous times a month we go shopping, pick out kids' DVDs and CDs and we get home and they cannot use them as I have to apply to the authorities for backups (After a morning or afternoon in their hands, the media is totally trashed - I can swear they sand the floor with it). I have been happily using the decrypter for a year now, distributed it to anyone who requires it.
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Posted on: 16 Jun 07 09:39
Well why doesn't someone just decompile the program then share the source code with everyone? If enough people figure out how to get around the copy protection then the big companies won't have a chance. Personally I use DVDDecrypter all the time to make back up copies for myself. I have the DVD's whats the problem? It's not like I'm making 10 copies and selling them for ten cents a disk, but it is the people who are doing that, who have pushed this poor guy into concideding to the A$$HOLES in the industry. They should grow up. Money isn't the only thing in this world. It is a false idol, and we all know what the good book says about false idols. :-) Also, if you really really REALLY want to mess them up. Where are all you hackers at? Seriously. Why don't you all hack your way into these companies' servers and format ALLLLL of their Drives. I am an American. I love my country as much as the next patriotic person from any country. But it is time we show them we mean business. Where are all of our professional hackers? You need to get on the ball, start with thier servers. Then move on to their PCs. The next American Revolution will be fought not just with flesh and blood but also with electricity, one's, and zero's. Oh, and I hope someone in our goverment is reading this I really do. I don't support your corrupt ways. I support the founding pricipals this country was bulit on. You idiots better watch out. Before you know it, your own military will take over. They know it as well as we do. A time of change is comming. MARK MY WORDS! Alan Welch
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Posted on: 09 Jul 07 11:41
Everyone on this planet should watch the movie V for Vendetta. The only way to beat these companies is to destroy them.
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Posted on: 15 Jul 07 23:46
lol i agree - we must destroy these bighead @$$holes... this can not go any longer....anyways...curse the copycrap people! at least we have several alternatives, and i hope their owners wont suck up to the legal idiots like Lightning UK did. the best so far is DVD Shrink: it requires nero 6 to burn, which doesnt work with vista, so my solution is save the ripped dvd as an .iso and then burn it using some image burning product (i use roxio). the idiots might try, but not everyone is a legal suck-up like Lightning UK was....
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Posted on: 12 Aug 07 14:04
Just read the news about DVD Decrypter; it is indeed a sad day, I too am from the England LIGHTNING UK and find it quite disgraceful that the United Stated of America and said corporations which do not have any allegance with our country are allow to impose such hash sentances on those who do not intentionally attack them in the first place. Your program was and is fantastic and would advise you not to distrubute anymore due to the legal implecations and that I respect your mature decision but wish you the best of luck in the future. I am on a BSc Computer Networking course at university and will tell all who asks about copying DVDs' to find your program to honour you and your work. Dispite that 321 Studios did indeed receive a Cease and Desist, I do find it odd how other companys such as DVDFab are able to continue to produce programs (there must be some circumvention they are using which is immune to the law, eg. Backing-up bought DVDs) especially as there program is so intense on the modification/mutilation of copy protection and up-to-date with copying DVDs. LIGHTNING UK, good luck with your future; you have made many people happy, and brought so many people together with your selfless distributiong of your fantastic software without charge. Thank you. GT
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Posted on: 14 Aug 07 01:48
I guess we will have to wait til the movie plays on cable or satellite tv to copy it, or is that going to be copyrighted too. Anyone know the name of the @#$%$@## company that put the hurtin on "lightning uk".I guess you CAN'T fight city hall ?? "Lightning UK , your the best. thanks for all your help" :d
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Posted on: 16 Aug 07 10:48
get over it guys. i used to use this program when new dvd's cost about $90 aud. i suggest to u we thank the creator of this program and others like it which has helped to bring down prices. i can now buy most new release movies for less than $30 aud. thats a big drop in price and if i wait usually about 2-3months i can get them for around $12-$15 aud. with this sort of pricing why bother "backing up" or is it a fact that you are illegally copying rented movies. the world has moved on and this is not about freedoms but stopping illegal pirating of movies that business has paid a lot of money to produce. if someone stole your property iam sure u lot would immediately call the so called authorities. if in your opinion it is ok to steal other peoples property why remove all door locks then and invite your neighbours in to help themselves.
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Posted on: 16 Aug 07 10:59
i agree with geoff. take off all the door and window locks and put up a sign that any one can come in and borrow anything in your house take it home and copy it. i would think after a few days not much left in your house and you would soon get sick of having to buy replacements. what about after many years of inventing you finally invent some wonderful gadget that everyone wants. u patent it and copyright it but then everyone starts copying it illegally. what do you do ?? give up or fight
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Posted on: 18 Aug 07 07:25
Fcuk geoff! sushil, If you could pull your head up from geoffs undercarrage for one minute you could see that most of the budget for movies is for the actors. These people can give a shite about you. I should know I live in Hollywood and I am in the industry. They're not hurting, believe me. If they want to demand excessive pay, I demand the right to download, rip, copy, make love too what ever crap that Hollywood is producing these days. Most movies would not even be seen if it weren't for downloading. Sushil your talking about physical property. Were talking about intellectual property here.....i actually like to call it virtual property.....meaning they can make more DVD's at will, for pennies.....ie: "money tree". When dvd's came out, they sold them for a lot cause they new people would need the dvd version of the movie they already have in VHS. The studios are getting paid twice for the same crap....you be the judge. This is the same theory i have with oil companies. That is why I drive a vehicle that runs on used vegetable oil.
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Posted on: 28 Aug 07 11:29
Well they wont stop piracy all tohether. just like they cant stop grow ops of weed. smoke weed crack dvd encryptions. our freedoms are slowly being taken away! what should we do! we need to march for our rights! FUCK the corporate world! Money makes the world go sour! Fuck the riaa, Fuck the movie and the music industry. fuck the police forces of the world! Everyone should stop being lazzy and start a petition to do what the fuck we want! we have free will and with that lets put the governments under pressure! rob groceries stop working rip the power companies by smashing your power meter and hop the terminals. enough is enoug with the fucking greed. the bullshit they tell piracy funds neighbourhood crime! BULLSHIT and so far fetched! Quit your jobs and tell the government to get to work start doing some real work! Fuck The Governments!
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Posted on: 30 Aug 07 07:29
:d :c
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Posted on: 07 Sep 07 04:15
Has it already been two years since DVD Decrypter was taken down. I cant believe it. Oh well.
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Posted on: 21 Nov 07 01:04
That is so far from the truth, computers are incredibly bad at math. They're extremely inaccurate and can only do basic operations. They are however incredibly good at repetitive tasks, which is the area where they become very useful when doing calculations. A good example from this forum is that a computer will fail at calculating 1/3 * 3 which is 1, a computer would return 0.9999 with a limited number of 9s In physics, nothing beats the white board when it comes to calculations...iracy :B :B :B :B :B :B :B :X :X :X :X :X
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Posted on: 30 Nov 07 09:42
Somebody know how to decrypt a dvd with the subtitle ? thanks
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Posted on: 27 Jan 08 04:27
Posted by sofian (guest) on Friday 30 November 2007 09:42 Somebody know how to decrypt a dvd with the subtitle ? thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.dvdhelp.us/dvddecrypter/dvddecrypter.html "Guys, take this serious! Disable the Autoupdate function "NOW"
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Posted on: 05 Feb 08 12:34
i ripped my 1'st movie in about 6mins with an old sony dvd-rom drive, could hardly believe it happened . she's not dead . :+ long live the DVDdecrypter .
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Posted on: 15 Feb 08 04:26
cmonaussie: how? did you download it b/f the "certain company" knocked on lightning's door and asked him to stop? punch
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Posted on: 12 Apr 08 15:03
hahaha the funniest thing about all of this is that after THREE YEARS of no development DVD decryptor still works perfectly with nearly any dvd you can buy these days (excluding HD and Bluray of course) so what has sony really achieved?
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Posted on: 06 May 08 07:14
I cant understand why companies that make millions target software makers who are geniuses... freeware exists and it should be up to the developer is he or she wants to share it....DVD makers should focus on writing programs to better protect dvd s... does imgburn still work? how bout anydvd...alcohol?...can peeps still burn anything these days? I think I could.... :g
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Posted on: 19 Apr 09 22:52
My reaction to this copyright is plain and simple a total boycott of all music and most videos for over fifteen years.
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Posted on: 31 May 09 09:08
Downloaded a copy of this yesterday to enable me to put some of the dvd's I own and have paid for onto my iPod. Why I should have to jump through hoops like this is very annoying, but a nice easy piece of software to use.

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