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11 Jun 09 05:38 by Randomus in category Uncategorized To news archive

As copyright groups turn towards ISPs to send out warning letters to alleged music and movie pirates, a recent legal study finds that the letters aren’t enough to convince them to stop sharing files.

Just 33 percent of participants surveyed said they’d be willing to stop pirating content if they received a letter from their ISP.  Almost 80 percent of people would be willing to stop pirating copyrighted material if they received a letter and had Internet service cut.

"A letter would not be enough," Wiggin technology partner Alexander Ross told BBC.  "It does take an ultimate sanction" before file sharers will stop sharing files.

The final version of the digital media habits report, including the study carried out by Wiggin, will be sent to UK government officials sometime next week.

I found this to be an interesting study because the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) said it has left behind sending out John Doe lawsuits in favor of getting ISPs to distribute letters to alleged pirates.  Instead of being in a handful of unlucky people being sued for a couple thousand dollars, sending out letters and cutting service opens up the door for the RIAA to punish a much larger amount of people with less public outrage and backlash.

Several nations — including the US, UK, France, and other European countries — hope to experiment with eliminating Internet access for accused file sharers.

If you received just a warning letter, would you be willing to stop sharing files?

24 Comments

RTV71
Posts: 122
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 00:59
Disconnection will definately stop piracy. It's not like a pirate can just put copyrighted works on removable storage devices and share them....oh wait! FAIL!
applegodel8
Posts: 151
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 06:35
yeah thats something people should start doing, Mail everything, if that was done on top if downloading i would then love to see what they would think of to stop that.
applegodel8
Posts: 151
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 06:38
just ad another thought, i know of only one way to stop anything no matter the subject. Death. so unless that was done it will never ever ever end. You should find a comprimize a solution everyone can be happy with. Greed distroys all but you find the balance you then have harmony.
RTV71
Posts: 122
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 07:36
Take your mailbox away.
Zzyzxroad
Posts: 145
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 09:27
Hmmm, dont joke around. It could be a futre law, where file sharers get the death penalty!!!
Audiophile2009
Posts: 7
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 18:04
there is 2 many ways to access the internet these days. so lets get real the RIAA is fighting a looseing battle they should GIVE UP no way are they gonna stop people from sharing files. it's simple transfur the file to a memory card then mail it to a friend who does have internet connections. like i said the RIAA should just GIVE UP.they not gonna win
h2w8
Posts: 1
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 19:29
So... it's a case of all P2P users are guilty of sharing copyrighted file content?? Illogical Captain! What's the next level of censorship, no FTP allowed? Hmmm.. as above.
jhutchi63
Posts: 11
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 20:15
Mail.... that's how it used to be done
Before fast internet connections there used to be tape trading groups... all the same stuff... although mainly movies... allthough I still remember bootleg record stores...
Piracy has always been around in some form... Some of the best customers out there are "try before you buy" customers.... I've known many who will download a pirated copy of a movie until it becomes available to buy.... the studios waste more money fighting it than what they would gain if they just let it be... Apparently they just need something to write off... what about the MPAA or RIAA employees that would be out jobs if they quit?
Are those employees profiting from piracy?

It's a complete waste of time and money if you ask me....
rla
Posts: 127
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 22:20
Why should ISP's be in the business of protecting the RIAA or MPAA's profits. I dont want my internet bill going up over the cost of generating millions of letters and handling related phone calls. Screw Hollywood. Perhaps these organizations should take a close look at the perception consumers have of them and do something to build bridges rather that threatening and educating like a bunch of pompus asses.
AmiWolf
Posts: 75
Posted on: 12 Jun 09 22:40
If I'm not mistaken, by utilizing the mail service, then a person would open another can of worms (or an old one) that has the trafficing of stolen properties across state lines. Not sure, but that may be a felony, or at least some sort of Federal statute would come in to play...
applegodel8
Posts: 151
Posted on: 15 Jun 09 03:20
what we need to do is use the law in our favor, PRIVACY P2P should be encypted using cercificates, there is a peer to peer i heard of trying to do this it in end will act like the my space of P2P RIAA or MPAA would not be allowed to crack your encryption, if they did they legally would be no better off then you, so you could conter sue them what they sue you for, making it point less. So encryptions the answer, then they cant do squat!
GotBeer?
Posts: 71
Posted on: 15 Jun 09 21:20
Send your illegal warez via US Mail. Help keep them afloat in this email age. Fear the FBI and racketeering charges.

I received a letter from my cable internet company back in January, for something I'd done a few months earlier. Scared the bejeebus out of me. Also pissed me off, because I got nailed for torrenting an episode of Stargate Atlantis, due to having missed it Friday night and the complete lack of repeats or SciFi.com availability. Nail me for something legitimate, I won't deny there wasn't something else there to get me on, but for being a loyal fan?

Did it affect my torrenting? When the letter says I'll be cut off if I'm caught just once more (two strikes you're out!), you bet your bippy.
DukeNukem
Posts: 998
Posted on: 15 Jun 09 21:33
If my ISP cuts me off then I'll just go to the competition.
applegodel8
Posts: 151
Posted on: 15 Jun 09 22:26
the problem with competition is when there is none, i only have 1 choice and i wish there was more.
jhutchi63
Posts: 11
Posted on: 16 Jun 09 11:31
Cancel your service, set it back up under someone elses name... they don't require that much info, and if it's another member of your current household even better... there's always another way to get service... be creative
Audiophile2009
Posts: 7
Posted on: 17 Jun 09 23:29
you are write i live where the only way to get the internet is through AT&T the only other way would be to go with a BroadBand pc card from my celluler carrier. however i really don't see the ISP componeys disconnecting all the millions of internet subcribers wherther it's cable, satellite internet, or DSL. the componeys would then put thereselves out of business i just don't see that happening so RIAA go F*** yourself. and leave the people alone. you'll should be doing something about all the Illegles over here in the usa.
jhutchi63
Posts: 11
Posted on: 18 Jun 09 02:02
And if it happens cancel your service with AT&T, you can then start new service with them under another name, it's not that difficult, you also have the option of cellular broadband PC card (mine works just fine for downloading) & Direct TV offers Broadband internet as well... none of that matters though because if you cancel service with AT&T there is nothing stopping you from opening a new account, you can use your spouses name, kids name, friends name, aother family members name (with permission of course), they are not going to block by address, just by account.. if the account is closed there is nothing more to block. Believe me there will be ways to get around it.... and they will never be able to stop it (downloading).
I am not sure but I read somewhere last night about a new feature to the Opera webbrowser that allows downloading direct from one PC to another... not sure if this is going to make a difference or not but if your skipping the middle man it should allow people to share files with one another quite easily.. if they are encrypted it seems that would be even more secure... I don't know if any of this is possible, but it was one of the first things that came to mind reading the article... but it just feeds the fire even more to the fact it will continue no matter what...
TLTD
Posts: 4
Posted on: 18 Jun 09 18:33
The second they shut off my internet after I download a legitimate steam, D2D, or GOG game, iTunes mp3 file, movie rental, etc. That's the day I single handedly take over the entire internet on the whole earth and unlock the bandwidth and make it free for everyone from then on with my awesome hack I have been working on my entire life since I first cracked a commodore64 game on floppy disk.
SimonleBon
Posts: 1
Posted on: 18 Jun 09 20:20
Death Penalty? That reminds me to a certain passage on the album Joe's Garage from Frank Zappa...
On this album the central scrutinizer monitors everybodies activities. Will the ISP's be the new central scrutinizers?
kammler
Posts: 1
Posted on: 19 Jun 09 08:20
Last week I received a letter regarding violations of the DMCA. I'm a PhD student and was interested in various versions of SPSS. I had purchased an older version of the application but was interested in seeing if a new version was worth the money. I don't do a lot of file sharing so I was very surprised. Technology has been surpressed throughout the ages. The impact has hindered its progression but never stopped it.
tyberg31
Posts: 1
Posted on: 20 Jun 09 15:04
I file share all the time. That is life. F**K THEM! I always will. fight with all our your guns and follow your own morals. F**K THEM!!!
TLTD
Posts: 4
Posted on: 20 Jun 09 16:06
The one thing I got busted for was downloading an episode of the apprentice. I always download over the road on a 3g or truck stop wifi. I don't know if my wife left the torrent going or what but from what I gather they want to see what you are uploading more than what you download.
Shortly after that, I read where they can watch your usenet downloading if you don't have SSL so maybe it was that.
SBC Yahoo DSL has never given me problems and I have always downloaded torrents, usenet, etc. I am back to them, it's the cable companies you have to watch. My friends have always gotten letters from cable providers. They just sit around and spy on people's internet usage. They probably watch you masturbate through your own webcam too.
applegodel8
Posts: 151
Posted on: 21 Jun 09 14:16
Plain and simple us the consumers need to start using encryption, if the greed corp and orgs break it they are equally as to blame and you have equal right to sue them then, its against privacy law to break encryption and possibly other laws too. Encryption is hard to break and is the answer to all our problems.
Hemispasm
Posts: 5248
Posted on: 21 Jun 09 15:16
Imagine though a possible scenario where the ones being cut off by an ISP are "blacklisted" (just like with in the bank system for debts) and all ISPs are already aware of the previous misbehaviour; making them trigger itchy at least.

Now thats an ugly thought

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