Macrovision wants DVD Decrypter pulled from AfterDawn server

26 Nov 05 19:32 by Crabbyappleton in category Uncategorized To news archive

DeadMan and feedback10k used our news submit to tell us about this news article over at AfterDawn that is most interesting indeed! According to staff writer dRD, Macrovision has ”acquired” rights to all versions of the widespread and popular freeware program, DVD Decrypter. Not only that, they now declare themselves owner of the intellectual property rights and wish to let AfterDawn know that any prior arrangements are now null and void effective immediately.

The DVD Decrypter package, can strip the CSS encryption from DVD movies with an easy to use GUI interface and thereby allow consumers to regain their legal right of backing up a copy for personal use. Unfortunately, it appears now that Macrovision is going to try a little bullying to make sure that the software gets hard to find. They have gone so far as to ask for its removal from at least AfterDawns server.

AfterDawn, who has hosted this file for some time, became aware of the situation when they received an email from Macrovision. AfterDawn has wisely decided to honor Macrovisions request to remove the file, as they would with any software owner and have stated they will do so as soon as “technically possible”.

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> Macrovision Corporation recently acquired the intellectual property rights in all versions of DVD Decrypter from its author, Lightning UK!. As the current owner of the intellectual property rights in DVD Decrypter Macrovision has contacted us to inform that “any license granted by Lightning UK! to AfterDawn for the distribution of any version of the Software [DVD Decrypter] is hereby terminated with immediate effect.”

Even though the means used to acquire the rights to DVD Decrypter bore probably more resemblance to the common methods of the entertainment industry, we have no reason to object the request made by Macrovision. They do, in any case, own the rights to the software, and are entitled to enforce any policy they see fit.

The DVD Decrypter install package will be removed from our servers by Sunday, November 27th, or as soon as it is technically possible.

Macrovision is also probably stressing due to public reports concerning the mixed results from content protected by one of their other products known as RipGuard. This software was designed to stop rippers dead in their tracks, much like a can of Raid bug spray on a roach. Jusifying the need
for such a product, they use unamed studies on the
Macrovision webpage, with statements such as: “Each year, studios lose up to one billion dollars through the digital hole. We created RipGuard DVD to help you get most of it back..” They go on to promise that with this product, studios would enjoy a return of up to 97% of their lost profits! Sounds too good to be true and according to this Forbes article, it very well could be.  The report states that while it is effective against some ripping software, it is easily bypassed by others.

In the above linked article from Forbes, while relating a recent study done by the Piper analyst firm, they mention that DreamWorks Animation was the first studio to use RipGuard and the protection was added to the DVD release of ”Madagascar”. However, according to Pipers Gene Munster, it was not a bulletproof solution:

“We were able to circumvent the technology and rip a perfect copy of ['Madagascar'] using a free DVD ripper downloaded from the Internet,”

On the positive side for the studios, the software did not cause any technical issues with playback on any DVD machine the firm tried. Piper also noted that RipGuard was effective against DVD X Copy and 123 Copy DVD. So the question is, will RipGuard software frustrate end users enough to cause them to give up on ripping a DVD, or will the word get around on which program(s) to use? Time will tell and we can be sure that content providers will be watching this situation closely. Especially when other easy to use DVD ripping products such as AnyDVD is out there, not to mention the freeware ripping app, DVDFab Decrypter!

Lets switch gears here a minute, to take a look at the much older Macrovision protection commonly used on VHS tapes. This analog copy protection that most are familiar with, is still used today on some DVDs as well, causing problems with playback on certain decoding operations such as upscaling. It can cause unpleasant effects on your display and even force the DVD player to output in 480i mode rather than the 720p or 1080i that you want for large screens.

Fortunately, for compliance with the DVD Forum, Macrovision is only required to be enabled on Composite and S-Video outputs. Therefore, if you wish to bypass it’s effects on the output of your equipment, simply use a Digital Video Interface (DVI) connection and avoid using any analog ports. This should be a prime consideration anyway during equipment upgrades for the future, to purchase items with this pure digital interface. This gives a much cleaner looking result on the newer HDTVs by skipping an encoding process along the way to your display and works a charm on upscaling DVD players that have it.

Again, Macrovision touts itself a company that is a studios best buddy, but in reality, they are merely out to make a buck upon others creativity by stomping on the legal rights of end users and hobbling some newer technologies from operating correctly. They can bully those that do not have the money for a legal defense by acquiring their work and then like an impetuous child, attempt to take back their new toys, but it wont work, you can’t fight the world and you can’t fight technology. If you build it, it can someday be dismantled. If it is on the Internet, you can’t completely stop it from distribution.

Source: Various

19 Comments

duccio
Posts: 1
Posted on: 26 Nov 05 19:42
Macrovision, vaffanculo
Hyperspace
Posts: 588
Posted on: 26 Nov 05 21:51
Looks like Lightning UK sold everyone out in the end. :r
strachan
Posts: 866
Posted on: 26 Nov 05 22:08
Lightning UK didn't sell anyone out. It was a free program and he couldn't afford the thousands and thousands to fight Macrovision. He is still going strong with ImgBurn anyway. It is a great burning program.
RexHunt
Posts: 89
Posted on: 26 Nov 05 22:45
Unfortunately he is now working with Nic Wilson. I wonder how he'll find a way to abuse LUK.
LIGHTNING UK!
Posts: 851
Posted on: 26 Nov 05 23:14
I've no idea what wrongs Nic Wilson has done in the past, and quite frankly, I don't care. In the time I've been dealing with him, I've found him to be a very sound guy. Same goes for the peeps that assist him. We've simply helped each other out.... and I've done it to give ImgBurn users a little something extra. ImgBurn is still free, still without adverts, ad-ware, spy-ware etc so gimme a break yeah?! Oh and Hyperspace, stfu, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Moron.
RexHunt
Posts: 89
Posted on: 26 Nov 05 23:18
Thanks for responding LUK. If you want to know what Nic has done, then please read the thread linked in my previous reaction. If you have given him any secrets, I wouldn't be so sure if they are safe. He does have his fanboys to ensure his ego gets bigger indeed.
Crabbyappleton
Posts: 5757
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 01:37
LUK I take responsibility for pissing off the people reacting. I used the word "acquired" in quotes as this is the word used and the only one accurate and available. But, I think to some it looks like they bought it when it is read in my story. So I apologize for that mix-up. So I guess we can assume after reading your reaction, that Macrovision took the program during the legal battle and you had no choice in the matter, which is logical to me anyway. What we do know for sure thanks to AfterDawn, is that now they are using the rights to cause it to be pulled from the Internet, this pathetic action turns my stomach.
[edited by Crabbyappleton on 27.11.2005 03:21]
Siswell
Posts: 173
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 01:38
Erm DVDFab isn't free . . . or more correctly the link on the above article doesn't point to anything free other than a trial version . . .
Crabbyappleton
Posts: 5757
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 01:47
You are correct, DVDFab Decrypter is a simple freeware version of shareware DVDFab Express and I corrected the link to point to the free version. Thank you!
[edited by Crabbyappleton on 27.11.2005 05:55]
ElBoricua433
Posts: 155
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 01:51
DVDFab Decrypter is free, DVDFab the software is not free
_chef_
Posts: 27517
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 02:20
Everyone knows that LUK never sold out anything. Anyone using DVDDecrypter and/or ImgBurn should give him respect at least!
gandalf8081
Posts: 1
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 05:15
LUK, I just want to thank you for the excellent DVD decrypter program. I have 5 children who really love their Star Wars, Barbie, and recently Madagascar DVDs. The first thing I ever do with a new DVD is back that sucker up! I keep the originals in paper slip cases and give the kids the copy in the original DVD case. They are then happy as clams. Before your program there was much howling and sadness from the older kids when the younger ones would scratch up a disk, but this is now in the past. Thank you for very, very literally, making the world a much happier and (for me) saner place.
Roj
Posts: 434
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 05:51
Poor little MacroVision. Yet another impotent failed attempt in the war against DRM. Crying and wanting to take their ball and go home. Utter and complete respect to LUK. Also, for the record, DVDFabDecrypter IS free.
[edited by Roj on 27.11.2005 05:52]
scoobiedoobie
Posts: 3163
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 06:20
In honor of Macrovision, here's a link to DVD Decrypter - http://rapidshare.de/files/1111955/SetupDVDDecrypter_3.5.4.0.exe.html
Hyperspace
Posts: 588
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 20:45
LUK ystfub.
cynicalbastard
Posts: 480
Posted on: 27 Nov 05 22:57
The research firm noted that RipGuard was effective in stopping two popular DVD ripping products, DVD X Copy and 123 Copy DVD, that were tested on "Madagascar." Piper said studios may be hesitant to use DVD protection that can be circumvented by the casual DVD pirate. If studios deem that the average pirate will stop after one or two failed attempts, "studios may decide that RipGuard is sufficiently effective," Piper said. ----------- Macrovision suit: "duuuude, we gotta take DVD Decrypter OFF THE NET". We want RipGuard to succeed, don't we? Let's get our best men on the case. Time to call in the lawyers...
col_oddball
Posts: 2
Posted on: 28 Nov 05 06:43
Oh Macrocrap the bane of our lives. They are crapping themselfs, we all know DVD decryptor with the help of pgcedit and vobblanker kicks they ripcrap into no mans land. I wish the corp's get the message stop messing with our fair use rights, and stop buying this crap that doesn't work :X
siki_miki
Posts: 5
Posted on: 29 Nov 05 00:13
This is stupid. DVDDecrypter was released to public as is and it can't be retracted by anyone, including it's new owners.
XweAponX
Posts: 20
Posted on: 14 Dec 05 20:19
Hey Lightning: "Reaction Posted by LIGHTNING UK! on 26 November 2005 - 23:14 | Moderated @ 2 | react I've no idea what wrongs Nic Wilson has done in the past, and quite frankly, I don't care....Oh and Hyperspace, stfu, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Moron." Seeing as Hyperspace could only respond with a barrage of letters which I asssume is some kind of secret insult code, I must concur that he is an arse. Yah: HAHA. Hey, I just wanna tell LUK that I think he is a great man, and his head deserves to be carved into mount rushmore or something: I, and billioons of other people, personally thank him for giving us the ability to excersise my G-d and State-Given RIGHTS to back up the DVD's and CD's we have PURCHASED! I don't think as a program DVD Decrypter can be beat, however, I'll try out this ImgBrn thing. I use DVD Decrypter to not only burn my own authored DVD ISO images, I use it to burn CD disk images I have assembled. It is merely one of my tools, and I appcreciate that I have it, and I have stowed many copies of it on line in little secret free webspace services. (At request I will privately give out this info) Nobody will fookin bully me as to what software I am allowed and not allowed to use, not macrovision, not sony, not anyone. Besides, they way I have it set, none of my copy procedures at this time affects the CSS or macrovision protection on the DVD I am copying: I make a direct digital copy of the disk, protection and all, which as far as I can tell is 100% legal according the the Digital Home Recording Act. So, as I am buying this stuff, and making my own copies for my own purposes, then Mavrovision can get stuffed into Sony's Doodie Hole. May every version of this "Ripguard" fail under the gentle tutelage of great people like LUK. to Lightning UK: We are the Village Green Preservation Society God save Donald Duck, Vaudeville and Variety We are the Desperate Dan Appreciation Society God save strawberry jam and all the different varieties Preserving the old ways from being abused Protecting the new ways for me and for you What more can we do We are the Draught Beer Preservation Society God save Mrs. Mopp and good Old Mother Riley We are the Custard Pie Appreciation Consortium God save the George Cross and all those who were awarded them We are the Sherlock Holmes English Speaking Vernacular Help save Fu Manchu, Moriarty and Dracula We are the Office Block Persecution Affinity God save little shops, china cups and virginity We are the Skyscraper condemnation Affiliate God save tudor houses, antique tables and billiards Preserving the old ways from being abused Protecting the new ways for me and for you What more can we do God save the Village Green. God Bless LUK! :S:S:X
[edited by XweAponX on 14.12.2005 20:26]

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