As Microsoft inches closer towards the launch of its Windows 7 operating system, it remains unclear what will happen to the unpopular Windows Vista OS.
All Vista support will stop in April 2012, but it’s very likely that sales of the OS will end much sooner than that.
It’s possible Vista will be dropped immediately after Windows 7 begins shipping, although nothing has been confirmed by Microsoft. The Redmond-based company is "still not sure if (computer manufacturers) will be able to ship Vista once Windows 7 is made available," according to Microsoft General Manager Richard Francis.
Windows 7 could be released within months, and the Windows 7 Release Candidate is now available.
Vista, originally expected to replace Windows XP and remain available for years to come, was never a hit among consumers or businesses. Many people complained that Vista was simply too bloated and includes too many annoying security prompts that are not necessary for every day use.
"It’s been a long time since we’ve had a version of Windows that will actually run better (than the previous version) on the hardware that most customers have," Microsoft VP of Windows product management Mike Nash said during a conference call.
If Windows 7 truly is months away from release, I have a hard time believing Microsoft will keep Vista around any longer than it needs to. The marketing push has already shifted away from Vista, and will continue to promote Windows 7 as the launch date comes closer.
Furthermore, Microsoft has received criticism for Vista on all sides, and most likely just wants consumers to forget about it as soon as possible.
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Vista isn't all that bad if you have the proper hardware to run it. The newest Windows 7 build 7100 RC 1 is awesome and I am telling people that I know that are wanting a new PC or such to wait on the final release of Win 7 as it is much faster and less annoying.
Vista really blows. I had to get it when I got my laptop for school. My home PC though is still running XP Pro with no problems. As far as Windows 7 being better than Vista, we will see.
@ Shaolin.. I am afraid I have to disagree with you on Vista. It does not blow at all, it simply sucks! http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...4/bigsmile.gif
Wow! Even Microsoft thinks Vista sucks! LOL
I kinda feel sorry for all the people that got duped into buying it and especially the poor saps that bought the "Ultimate Edition" and never got the promised "Ultimate Extras". http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...6/rolleyes.gif
I smell a class action lawsuit brewing.... http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/..//i...s/5/agreed.gif
Perhaps MS could comp the people they screwed on Ultimate, with a free upgrade to Windows 7. It might save them some time in court.
Wow! Even Microsoft thinks Vista sucks! LOL
I kinda feel sorry for all the people that got duped into buying it and especially the poor saps that bought the "Ultimate Edition" and never got the promised "Ultimate Extras". http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...6/rolleyes.gif
I smell a class action lawsuit brewing.... http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/..//i...s/5/agreed.gif
Perhaps MS could comp the people they screwed on Ultimate, with a free upgrade to Windows 7. It might save them some time in court.
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- Posted on: 04 May 09 21:06
More people brain washed by Apple marketing..
With decent hardware and SP1, Vista is great. It pains me to go back and use XP.
With decent hardware and SP1, Vista is great. It pains me to go back and use XP.
@ I'm a PC (guest): "Vista is great. It pains me to go back and use XP."
Why?
Why?
After a year of torturing myself with Vista Business I used my "free" downgrade to XP Pro. Decent hardware? Miniumum 2 GB of Memory? XP Pro is a screamer with 2GB and it did not pain me to go back at all. I enjoyed every moment of reformating 
I don't think Microsoft needed Apple marketing for this disaster.
I don't think Microsoft needed Apple marketing for this disaster.
I wasn't really Duped Crabby I just needed it to help support on the software(s) I use so needed it to help trouble shoot plus besides the annoying this or that it was a nice piece of software to learn. I am a software junkie so where is software junkie annonymous? Far as the comment on the it pains me to go back to XP well I can say extreme multi-tasking sucks on XP but to do single tasks or a few tasks at once it is still great. Vista improved multi-tasking greatly.
So, Vista is already dead, uh? Who would have imagined? http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/7/clap.gif Ahahah. Bloated and stupid piece of trash, that's what it is.
The Vista lovers mantra is always the same: "Give it the appropriate hardware, blah, blah, blah". Appropriate hardware, my ass! To give me exactly what, that I don't get with XP, which gives me much better performance, compatibility and piece of mind?
Early signs with Win 7 is that, indeed, it is better than Vista. But it would be almost impossible not to be! But the graphics department doesn't look too promising. That stupid Cleartype thing, etc, just means crappy looking fonts. Why is it so difficult to give such a great graphical experience as XP? These MS guys have totally lost it. XP should be the last one. The time of desktop OSes is already way past. They are just trying to keep on milking one of their 2 cash cows (the other being Office). We'll see how they fare this time. I suppose they'll do better but only because they threaten customers with dropping support for XP. If not, I doubt most business and normal users would care about getting a new OS. The question is, as always: why? What there is to gain? The only ones which gain anything are MS and the PC manufacturers. The end user gains nothing, at all. Even if there are some slight improvements, on some areas, those improvements are miniscule and don't warrant the release of a new OS. An update to XP would do the same.
The Vista lovers mantra is always the same: "Give it the appropriate hardware, blah, blah, blah". Appropriate hardware, my ass! To give me exactly what, that I don't get with XP, which gives me much better performance, compatibility and piece of mind?
Early signs with Win 7 is that, indeed, it is better than Vista. But it would be almost impossible not to be! But the graphics department doesn't look too promising. That stupid Cleartype thing, etc, just means crappy looking fonts. Why is it so difficult to give such a great graphical experience as XP? These MS guys have totally lost it. XP should be the last one. The time of desktop OSes is already way past. They are just trying to keep on milking one of their 2 cash cows (the other being Office). We'll see how they fare this time. I suppose they'll do better but only because they threaten customers with dropping support for XP. If not, I doubt most business and normal users would care about getting a new OS. The question is, as always: why? What there is to gain? The only ones which gain anything are MS and the PC manufacturers. The end user gains nothing, at all. Even if there are some slight improvements, on some areas, those improvements are miniscule and don't warrant the release of a new OS. An update to XP would do the same.
It will go the way of Windows ME.. People remember Win 98SE but not many saw Windows ME..
OMG, Windows ME, my favorite OS of all time, lol. I think I would rather install DOS 6.22 than that piece of cow manure.
I guess this will depend on the so called unfixable glitch that windows 7 is suppose to have.
It could be back to the drawing board or ?
It could be back to the drawing board or ?
Unfixable bugs can be easily fixed in the EULA.
The unfixable bug is on ones PC and not a internet issue so no need to worry about that. Win 7 will march on as the next best OS.
Unfortunately, If the team of researchers are correct.
"There's no fix for this. It cannot be fixed," said Vipin during his presentation in Dubai. "It's a design problem."
Microsoft has yet to comment on the exploit or formally acknowledge its existence.
I guess only time will tell.
"There's no fix for this. It cannot be fixed," said Vipin during his presentation in Dubai. "It's a design problem."
Microsoft has yet to comment on the exploit or formally acknowledge its existence.
I guess only time will tell.
"There's no fix for this. It cannot be fixed," said Vipin during his presentation in Dubai. "It's a design problem."
Just as any protection can be cracked, any bug can be fixed. Claiming it can't be is just sensationalizing it. It may not be easy, cheap, or commercially feasible, but it can be fixed. Besides, it appears they need physical access to the system to implement the hack, so it's not that big of a threat anyway. And to claim that they cannot be detected is just crap. Someone will figure out how to detect the hack. So, while I certainly don't mind seeing M$ get egg on their face again, I'm sure Win7 will go forward without much of a hitch.
Just as any protection can be cracked, any bug can be fixed. Claiming it can't be is just sensationalizing it. It may not be easy, cheap, or commercially feasible, but it can be fixed. Besides, it appears they need physical access to the system to implement the hack, so it's not that big of a threat anyway. And to claim that they cannot be detected is just crap. Someone will figure out how to detect the hack. So, while I certainly don't mind seeing M$ get egg on their face again, I'm sure Win7 will go forward without much of a hitch.
I must be the only one who actually liked vista, the only problem i had was that a lot of the programs i had for xp never wanted to work on vista at first. other than that, i find that its very easy to use with networking.
I would still jump to linux in an instant though if i could get my head around installing programs on it!!
I would still jump to linux in an instant though if i could get my head around installing programs on it!!
Yes you need physical access.
Doesn't stop a disgruntled employee on his way out to drop this on the business computer, Then again lots of other things can happen.
Doesn't stop a disgruntled employee on his way out to drop this on the business computer, Then again lots of other things can happen.
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- Posted on: 05 May 09 23:40
I would be MORE surprised if they continued to sell Vista afer 7 goes 'RTM'. I mean, why on earth would anyone use Vista if 7 is out? 7 is what Vista SHOULD have been - version 2, if you like. It would be like trying to sell the first generation of an mp3 player when the second generation is better, for the same money. I have used Vista for several months now, and I used to be one of those people who 'hated' Vista without ever actually using it for a period of time. Yes, it has it's problems, but the biggest ones were incompatibility with printers and generally older computers not being able to run it. Microsoft messed up - I'd agree. Now it's time to fix it.
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- Posted on: 06 May 09 13:58
Thank you for your comments, Mr. Gates.
Get real. Vista Sux.
Get real. Vista Sux.
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- Posted on: 06 May 09 16:47
I use Vista Ultimate and have found absolutely nothing about it that I dnt like. It works really well in my opinion. I dnt really think that its a Vista problem, it is more likely a configurator problem, such as the interface between the chair and the keyboard. But what do I know, .....
Nope you are not
I also like Vista, i find them more easy going although they do need a bit more memory compared to XP.
I would also gladly try out any Linux version that would allow me to work without reading a 200pg manual; it's been a while since i tried it, maybe things have changed.
I also like Vista, i find them more easy going although they do need a bit more memory compared to XP.
I would also gladly try out any Linux version that would allow me to work without reading a 200pg manual; it's been a while since i tried it, maybe things have changed.
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- Posted on: 06 May 09 19:36
I don't see why consumers would want Vista either once 7 goes to RTM, but they will probably continue to offer it to their enterprise customers who aren't ready to upgrade yet.
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- Posted on: 07 May 09 15:18
I treat Vista like the Big 3 automakers... Make and sell shit here and Make and Sell good stuff for Europe. Vista is like one of the Big 3 Gas hogs, useless, no resale value, and more expensive on insurance. Any reason why everyone is dying for Windows XP #2 ( AKA Windows 7) ?? Windows 7 is like the Honda Civic, more efficient, higher resale value, and lasts longer.
Any wonder the Europeans Auto companies are coming here to show us how to build proper cars.. you know 1.2 L engines going 200 kmh and car's not shaking all over the place like the garbage made here.... SEEE YA!!!
Any wonder the Europeans Auto companies are coming here to show us how to build proper cars.. you know 1.2 L engines going 200 kmh and car's not shaking all over the place like the garbage made here.... SEEE YA!!!
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- Posted on: 07 May 09 18:53
Vista has been working great for me all along. It is much better and faster than XP which is on my laptop. From what I have heard and seen so far, the only ones that complain about Vista are the people that don't own it and don't use it or the people that tried using Vista but they were still in XP thinking pattern. If you learn Vista's differences and you forget about running it like XP then Vista is a great operating system with many awesome features that XP cannot compare to. The easiest way to explain it is that some people try to work Vista with an XP key and it just don't work out. Use Vista as Vista and you will find that you have one terrific operating system.
Vista runs all my big graphics and word programs without a hitch, it flies at loading large pictures unlike pokey XP, it has an incredible search feature and it seems very friendly when it comes time to get rid of trojans and worms, something that just kills my XP machine. To me, XP is like Windows 98 when compared to the powerful Vista system. Networking is incredibly easy on Vista, much much easier than XP. There are many more good things I could say about Vista but unless you're actually using Vista for a while you wouldn't understand.
let's see there was the license issue I had which required a call to Microsoft to re-authorize (4 months into Vista I might add) and then the wireless adapter driver died. That required a call to Dell support for the non-US version of the driver (I'm in the US) and then having to add an additional GB of memory. Yes SP 1 fixed some things..of course why was SP1 required in the first place? So Vista could go from Beta to release version? Operator error? I don't think so
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- Posted on: 07 May 09 20:27
Vista works just fine, the biggest problem Vista has is the users, people trying to run Vista on Windows 95 and XP hardware, most people that bitch about Vista have never tried it and are simply sheep following someone elses ideas, like Mac users
I gave vista a go for 12 months on a new machine built for Vista, http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...es/2/frown.gif gave up, and bought XP again. http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im.../6/biggrin.gif Roll on Windows 7,http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/2/wink.gif maybe we'll all get a discount if we trade Vista in?http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...6/rolleyes.gif How about it Bill? http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/7/clap.gif
@ben (guest)
ROTFL!
oh that is rich: you mean all the Vista capable machines that were not? It's M$ who pushed that idea, not the users. XP hardware? what does that mean? Oh I see Vista needs dual quad processors to work properly?
ROTFL!
oh that is rich: you mean all the Vista capable machines that were not? It's M$ who pushed that idea, not the users. XP hardware? what does that mean? Oh I see Vista needs dual quad processors to work properly?
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- Posted on: 07 May 09 22:00
For you, Vista may run better, but faster, that strains credulity. Even MS admits Vista is slower, some say 20% slower for equivalent tasks. If you compare a fresh install of Vista to a fresh install of XP, XP will be faster.
I do complain about Vista. Some of my existing hardware drivers would not run under Vista; worse, some major programs such as Java were not fully compatible with Vista x64.
I do complain about Vista. Some of my existing hardware drivers would not run under Vista; worse, some major programs such as Java were not fully compatible with Vista x64.
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- Posted on: 07 May 09 22:33
Windows 7 is just like windows vista.7 is just like a update of vista :/
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- Posted on: 07 May 09 23:19
On a fresh install XP may be faster, but as a power user with 8GB and running many resource intensive applications, as well as 2 or 3 VMs regularly, Vista x64 is blows the doors off XP. It has also been the most stable Windows I've used , and I have used them all. It all depends on your system and what you do with it.
Having said that, I will be moving to Windows 7 immediately to gain even more performance.
Having said that, I will be moving to Windows 7 immediately to gain even more performance.
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- Posted on: 07 May 09 23:38
I have Vista 64bit and aside from drivers not being available for some of my (admittedly older) periphery, I've had zero problems with it and it works great for all tasks. So indeed, sheep, grow your own thoughts maybe and quit hating. i7 quad 2.7Ghz, ATI 4800, 2x6 DDR3 corsair, MSI Pro mb.
That thing about the drivers not working may have validity but that's the same as someone buying a new car and complaining that older model parts don't fit. I sometimes complain that my computer doesn't have a 3.5" floppy but come on, the old junk needs to be replaced at some point in time. Should I also complain that my 30 year old Tandy dot matrix printer doesn't work with Vista? It's not Vista's fault that obsolete drivers were not updated and submitted to the Vista build, it's the fault of the peripheral manufacturers for not getting off their butts to make drivers compatible with Vista. I have programs that do not work with Windows 7, does that mean that Windows 7 is bad also, I don't think so. Vista is a darn good operating system and I use it everyday for up to 12 - 15 hours for multitasking big graphics programs and even for operating heavy duty, resource hogging games and Vista never complains or causes a problem unlike XP which used to constantly give me grief. Anyway, enough said Vista rules here and I like it.
Geez, this all sounds just like the change from 2000 to XP, then XP to Vista. Unless MS wants to start from scratch, Win7 is not built on XP, it is a build on Vista, just like Vista was built on XP. Everyone will love Win7 for a while, then start complaining about it too. This has been the problem since Win95; they keep buiding on the previous platform, throw in some bug fixes and new window dressings, and the public loves it. At least for a while. An, who is to say that MS themselves didn't start the Vista is garbage rumor? No better way to sell a new OS than to have the previous one become a piece of junk. The problem is not XP, Vista, or Win7, it is plain and simply Microsoft. So long as we buy, they will sell. Let's get back together in a year or so and see what the opinion of Win7 is then; and of course what people think is just horrible about it.
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- Posted on: 08 May 09 01:33
There's no such thing as an UNFIXABLE GLITCH!
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- Posted on: 08 May 09 01:35
For Gamers who have graphics intensive Things and colors and shiny nonsense, Hey Vista, Go for it, For people like, Oh lets say an indie Musician, without a whole lot of money, and a need for a OS that works, stable and who ISN't a Gamer, and doesn't need any of his software, that costs quite a chunk of change, or any of his outboard recording, mixing, MIDI, devices to work. vista's probably great, If you want to listen to some horrid mp3 compressed garbage Image based music, great fine, but if you actually care about sound, and providing a potential listener with quality, you'r SOL unless you pony up mega bucks for an Aplle system, or all new, Maybe, Maybe not compatible hardware, and software for your studio, just to do the basics, it's purely greed. With XPPro, I can actually use opensource, and reasonably priced software, that may be a few years older, but I know that If I plug something in, unless it's got a MAC logo on it, it's gonna make some kind of sound. And Mac has pretty much mp3'd and iPhoned their way out of the market of respectable musical quality. You're getting the same, if not better performance out of a PC that cost 650$, than a 1200$ mac, with more choices as to hardware and software. so for us Indies that make our bread by using PC, Vista blew it big time, and if 7 is basically another Vista platform , for the musicians, were still going to have the same problem. Can they not Make a OS that doesn't have to be so overloaded? great a4 year old can edit pictures, but, I can't edit decent sounding audio, because None of my hardware is compatible. Oh well.... If we all just left it to THE EXPERTS we'd be fine and walk around with a permanent Trademarked DRM'd Smile on our faces.
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- Posted on: 08 May 09 01:44
XP is the only true upgrade to preveious operating systems!
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- Posted on: 08 May 09 01:53
It pains me to see a corporate slogan as your name. How can I get paid to advertise garbage, Then I could build my own Freaking OS that would work, and open up a Corporate fascist entity, Like Apple or Microsoft, and build useless OEM and cleverly advertise it, as fun and hip and young and warm and Family and cute kids showing the simplicity of My new brand caled Heavenly USA Pie and Milk Farmland Rebel youth punk rock but still essentially harmless software Incorporated, and have my symbol a big abstract brightly packaged Red white and Blue box, with the promise of a chance at a Million dollars for buying my product, or the overpriced gadget laden Glowing waterproof, anti-radition, 9 TB ram lightweight floating, La-Z-Boy compatible (Ultra Super Bitchen Version comes with a Free Recliner that hooks up to a fire wire portand lets you surf the web, by a wireless remote beer bottle , and a special keyboard that only types in text message alpha-numerical input since no one can spell anyhow, Yeah! That would be the best. Free Monkeys for the kids, and it's got a starbucks Brewer and maker imbedded within, and could save you and your data in case of a natural disaster useable laptop versions are also a floatation device...
Vista is garbage for some, and Good for others, but if you want entertainment, get a ps3 , or a wii or an Atari, whatever, I just want the bastard to do what I need it to do, without it arguing with me. very simple, ask what the customers want, not a focus group or a consultant.and don't just go to a Mall go to plces that might scare the hell out of you, like a punk club. or an artgallery, not a snobby new york one.
Vista is garbage for some, and Good for others, but if you want entertainment, get a ps3 , or a wii or an Atari, whatever, I just want the bastard to do what I need it to do, without it arguing with me. very simple, ask what the customers want, not a focus group or a consultant.and don't just go to a Mall go to plces that might scare the hell out of you, like a punk club. or an artgallery, not a snobby new york one.
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- Posted on: 08 May 09 03:40
Just use the OS which match with your hardware needs and style. Microsoft should continue their steps on building next "better" windows... Smart people just try the beta or rc release himself... and decide if he like it or not.
Sounds like you made a mistake when you purchased Vista. You should have chosen Linux instead so you can alter the operating system to your liking. For a guy like me Vista is great because it readily serves all of my graphic, word processing and music needs without me having to spend hours programming it.
Somehow I don't think so. Vista is far too good of an operating system to be forgotten that easily, especially for the real users of Vista. People who have used Vista when it first came out (driver problems) or people who really don't know Vista seem to be the only ones that bad mouth Vista. Ask anyone who really works Vista hard today and they will always tell you that it's a great operating system.
I would like to see how many people who complain about Vista please tell us that you use Vista every day.
It has been my observation that those who complain about Vista don't use Vista regularly. I can say that a Ferrari is a lousy car based on speculation and opinion but perhaps that view would change dramatically if I owned and drove a Ferrari.
Quit being cowards Vista complainers, go buy the operating system and then complain about it after, but I'm telling you now that you may just shut your mouth after actually using Vista.
It has been my observation that those who complain about Vista don't use Vista regularly. I can say that a Ferrari is a lousy car based on speculation and opinion but perhaps that view would change dramatically if I owned and drove a Ferrari.
Quit being cowards Vista complainers, go buy the operating system and then complain about it after, but I'm telling you now that you may just shut your mouth after actually using Vista.
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- Posted on: 08 May 09 16:04
My question is...will Windows 7 be a Big Brother??? I was one of the lucky??? 2 million to get to test drive it a few months back. When I had it installed, I also had DU Meter running. I noticed MANY times that my computer was UPLOADING!!! As soon as I moved my mouse or touched the keyboard, it stopped. I bought DU Meter not long after it came outand it doesn't give me bogus readings. Windows 7 may be great, I'm not too sure I would totally trust it to not send everything about my computer to ??? Windows XP Professional 64 should be arriving today.
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- Posted on: 08 May 09 23:53
I don't mind Vista, but my 1881 census won't run on it, and the cards in Freecell are difficult to decipher.
Vista is not that bad. I have had it for a year and it has been pretty good.
Wow thats little sp1 comment is just silly..XP has had how many sp udates now? Get real buddy. I personally have Vista on my custom built PC and XP on my laptop and for me Vista is great and XP is not even close. I will however give Windows 7 a chance when it comes out BUT>>>not until the price is under control since MS will def be raping people just like they did with Vista...MS robs you no matter what you buy from them, be it OS's or Xbox 360s you will be robbed
This coolios dude is an asshole...always hating on America every chance he gets..WHY DONT U JUST GET THE HELL OUT OF THE USA THEN DIP SHIThttp://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/7/clap.gif
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- Posted on: 11 May 09 02:42
Vista is not that bad but...Then which is it?...Either it is better than XP or not...I will say it is not...People here defending Vista for what?...If Vista SP1 is such a good OS then it would need NO defending...People would be tripping over themselve praising Vista for being so much better than XP...Apple commericals are funny because the are true...Bill Gates stays way from bragging about how good Vista is...Correct me if I'm wrong but the commercial says, "I'm a PC"...Not, "I'm ah Vista...Are u?...END
Let us not forget that XP took a while to mature, too. However, Vista will go down as the next Windows ME. Everyone make duds, Microsoft included. Here is the list of hits and misses:
Win 3.1 (Great)
Win 95 (OK)
Win 95b (Great)
Win 98 (OK)
Win 98 SE (Great)
Win ME (Shit)
Win XP (OK)
Win XP SP 2 (Great)
Win Vista (Shit)
Win Vista SP1 (Nicer smelling shit)
Win 7 (Great)
Win 3.1 (Great)
Win 95 (OK)
Win 95b (Great)
Win 98 (OK)
Win 98 SE (Great)
Win ME (Shit)
Win XP (OK)
Win XP SP 2 (Great)
Win Vista (Shit)
Win Vista SP1 (Nicer smelling shit)
Win 7 (Great)
If Windows 7 is so great then why couldn't I run several of my Vista programs on Windows 7?
you missed out win 2000! that was probably even better than win98!
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- Posted on: 11 May 09 12:56
you You also missed out Win XP SP 3.
@ Victorious1
Because Microsoft is trying to forget Vista and doesn't want Windows 7 to be backwards compatible with it. Yeah, that sounds like a logical explanation.
@ Steveo119
Win 2000 was more for business, so that's why I didn't include it. However, for you I'll add it here.
Win 2000 SP4 (Great)
Because Microsoft is trying to forget Vista and doesn't want Windows 7 to be backwards compatible with it. Yeah, that sounds like a logical explanation.
@ Steveo119
Win 2000 was more for business, so that's why I didn't include it. However, for you I'll add it here.
Win 2000 SP4 (Great)
Win XP SP3 didn't really bring much more to the table, except for patches. It also came pretty late in the game. I was just trying to concentrate on the most notable versions.
a lot of people I know actually used 2000 at home due to reliablity, so while you're correct in saying that it was more for business, a lot of people prefered it to 98se/ME! (that and the fact it was dead easy to get a hacked copy off the web!)
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Yes, that's true. Many people used Win 2000 for home use because of its rock-solid stability. However, being a gamer, I know many of us kept away from Win 2000 as the majority of PC games didn't support it.
Im not a real big fan of Vista. It is too bulky and I don't like how long it takes to start up. heck - It took me weeks just to figure out the search feature - lol, and although I'm not as computer savy as most of ya'll sound - I'm not computer illiterate either. I'm really hoping that the next OS is much better than Vista... I like XP on my desk top and really hate my laptop because of Vista...
"Because Microsoft is trying to forget Vista and doesn't want Windows 7 to be backwards compatible with it. "
Well then why should anyone expect Vista to be backwards compatible with XP yet Vista is backwards compatible with XP.
I just don't get you non Vista users, you think you know Vista yet you know nothing factual. If you would just take the time to get to know the Vista operating system you would clearly see what a great operating system it is. It just does whatever you want in the simplest way possible and if it does something you don't like then you just tell it not to do that. With Vista you can't ask for a better operating system if you really know how to use it properly.
Well then why should anyone expect Vista to be backwards compatible with XP yet Vista is backwards compatible with XP.
I just don't get you non Vista users, you think you know Vista yet you know nothing factual. If you would just take the time to get to know the Vista operating system you would clearly see what a great operating system it is. It just does whatever you want in the simplest way possible and if it does something you don't like then you just tell it not to do that. With Vista you can't ask for a better operating system if you really know how to use it properly.
My Vista computer used to start slow also until I learned that I needed to go into msconfig and set it up to start using both cores of the processor. After I did that it now starts up quite a bit faster than my XP computer. Here's how to do it: msconfig>system configuration>boot tab>advanced options>number of processors = 2
You are living proof about what I have to say about XP users complaining about Vista. If you take yourself out of XP mode and learn Vista you will quickly find that Vista is better and easier to use than XP.
Ever owned a car that you became familier with and then you jumped into a new car and it was different and you had to learn it? XP is the old car and Vista is the new car. Would you throw the new car away because it was different and unfamilier or would you buck up and appreciate the benefits of the new car? Don't run Vista like XP, run it like Vista and you are in a new world that rewards you greatly.
You are living proof about what I have to say about XP users complaining about Vista. If you take yourself out of XP mode and learn Vista you will quickly find that Vista is better and easier to use than XP.
Ever owned a car that you became familier with and then you jumped into a new car and it was different and you had to learn it? XP is the old car and Vista is the new car. Would you throw the new car away because it was different and unfamilier or would you buck up and appreciate the benefits of the new car? Don't run Vista like XP, run it like Vista and you are in a new world that rewards you greatly.
Holy Moly Victorious1, never bothered to check out the 2 core thing. Changed to two processors after reading your post. Runs like a T1 now, but I did plug in my chiller just in case. Thanks much for info.
You are welcome ranspo. I'm glad I could help.
For *my* needs, and for the (perfectly good) hardware still in my PC, XP-Pro (N-lited) works just fine. All programs function, no driver issues, runs fast & no crashes. I am very happy with it & see no reason to upgrade & $pend more money.
I still have a few W2K machines around the office. Young wippersnappers with their fancy Vista EOL soon to be replaced with Win7 because Vista was not "that bad" software. I agree about the XP intro was rough but it was like Vista with the bad drivers. I think what really messed up Vista was the increase in hardware requirments that were 'underreported' kind of an Apple move.
I liked XP Pro also especially since the networking aspects worked so great, I used XP Pro for a lot of years until I bought a computer that had Vista basic and then I upgraded to Vista Ultimate and now there's no looking back since I discovered the power of Vista. XP Home which is on my laptop is just a basic operating system that leaves a lot to be desired when compared to Vista. I'd upgrade the laptop to Vista Ultimate but the processor is only 1.66 Ghz compared to my desktop's 3.4 Ghz and 1.66Ghz is just a little too slow for Vista in my opinion.
Victorious1 sez: "I upgraded to Vista Ultimate and now there's no looking back since I discovered the power of Vista."
Please elaborate on the power of Vista for us...I would really like to hear what makes it better than XP pro or even Win 2000.
Please elaborate on the power of Vista for us...I would really like to hear what makes it better than XP pro or even Win 2000.
Speed, graphics, search, multitasking, organization, fantastically easy networking, do you need more?
I get on my XP machine and it feels like I've fallen back a decade and both of my machines, XP and Vista, are tweaked to the max to deliver optimum performance.
I get on my XP machine and it feels like I've fallen back a decade and both of my machines, XP and Vista, are tweaked to the max to deliver optimum performance.
Victorious1 sez: "Speed, graphics, search, multitasking, organization, fantastically easy networking, do you need more?"
No, XP is faster in every category you mentioned (this is well documented with benchmark tests all over the net) easy networking and is much less annoying to use. There are no "tweaks' that will make Vista outperform an XP machine of the SAME SPECS. Add the also well documented compatibiity with exsisting hardware, lower hardware requirements for similar or better performance, and software and it is a no-brainer. The reasons you just brought up are the exact reasons MS was forced to drop the name Vista and push out the next Vista service pack with a new name. Windows 7. The should have called it Vista: Netbook Edition and sold it as a new category for Vista, just a bit more expensive than Starter Edition. They even had to add a crippled virtual machine in an effort to entice corporations to take the leap. It won't work.
Microsoft has never released a newer version of their OS that was faster than the predecessor. It is being said though, that Win 7 is a bit faster than Vista. But XP still kicks its bloated ass.
For Microsoft to come out with a REALLY new OS, they are going to have to create a new file system. The one that was promised in Vista would be nice! Had they done that, we would not need to be reading about Windows 7 today. I should be able to search my HDD as fast or faster than Google can search the entire Internet, but- thanks to MS it is not the way it is. Nope, they spent more time trying to build in moree DRm and also tried to put their OS closer to an annual subscription type model - rather than a shrink wrapped product. Now, they are paying the price - not us!
BRUHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!
No, XP is faster in every category you mentioned (this is well documented with benchmark tests all over the net) easy networking and is much less annoying to use. There are no "tweaks' that will make Vista outperform an XP machine of the SAME SPECS. Add the also well documented compatibiity with exsisting hardware, lower hardware requirements for similar or better performance, and software and it is a no-brainer. The reasons you just brought up are the exact reasons MS was forced to drop the name Vista and push out the next Vista service pack with a new name. Windows 7. The should have called it Vista: Netbook Edition and sold it as a new category for Vista, just a bit more expensive than Starter Edition. They even had to add a crippled virtual machine in an effort to entice corporations to take the leap. It won't work.
Microsoft has never released a newer version of their OS that was faster than the predecessor. It is being said though, that Win 7 is a bit faster than Vista. But XP still kicks its bloated ass.
For Microsoft to come out with a REALLY new OS, they are going to have to create a new file system. The one that was promised in Vista would be nice! Had they done that, we would not need to be reading about Windows 7 today. I should be able to search my HDD as fast or faster than Google can search the entire Internet, but- thanks to MS it is not the way it is. Nope, they spent more time trying to build in moree DRm and also tried to put their OS closer to an annual subscription type model - rather than a shrink wrapped product. Now, they are paying the price - not us!
BRUHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!
These lot are a right cynical bunch! 
vista to me is XP with a flashier GUI! I've lived with it, and i can't see what all the fuss about it being soo bad. the only thing i don't like about it is the pain to get it to network with other PC's in the house. other than that, i cannot see a problem with it! of course its going to be slower if you run it under a pentium 4 processor with only a gig of RAM! its built for higher end machines with dual core or higher.
vista to me is XP with a flashier GUI! I've lived with it, and i can't see what all the fuss about it being soo bad. the only thing i don't like about it is the pain to get it to network with other PC's in the house. other than that, i cannot see a problem with it! of course its going to be slower if you run it under a pentium 4 processor with only a gig of RAM! its built for higher end machines with dual core or higher.
@ Steveo: "i cannot see a problem with it!" (Vista)
Perhaps you should read this interview at Maximum PC where Microsoft outlines exactly what is wrong with it and why it is a failure.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...failure_launch
Perhaps you should read this interview at Maximum PC where Microsoft outlines exactly what is wrong with it and why it is a failure.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...failure_launch
ok crabby, this is all manure!
first!
where does it say who they spoke to at microsoft? was it the cleaner?
second,
everything in that articule was no different at all to when XP first came out, until SP1 came out to iron out the bugs! I remember binning a lot of software when none of it liked XP!
third
ever got the feeling the real reason nobody liked VISTA was because it wasn't hackable to be pirated?
Hell, I don't even like MS as a company, but VISTA isn't as bad as folk here are making out!!
first!
where does it say who they spoke to at microsoft? was it the cleaner?
second,
everything in that articule was no different at all to when XP first came out, until SP1 came out to iron out the bugs! I remember binning a lot of software when none of it liked XP!
third
ever got the feeling the real reason nobody liked VISTA was because it wasn't hackable to be pirated?
Hell, I don't even like MS as a company, but VISTA isn't as bad as folk here are making out!!
Steveo: "first!
where does it say who they spoke to at microsoft? was it the cleaner?"
no-
"a high-ranking Windows product manager"
Steveo: "second,
everything in that articule was no different at all to when XP first came out, until SP1 came out to iron out the bugs! I remember binning a lot of software when none of it liked XP!"
How's about this for a difference? One that MS does not like....
"NPD released sales figures today for software that users install themselves on their computers. Windows Vista unit sales decreased 58.9 percent in units compared to Windows XP during their respective launch weeks, while revenue decreased 32.1 percent."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/conte...at_retail.html
Steveo: "third
ever got the feeling the real reason nobody liked VISTA was because it wasn't hackable to be pirated?"
Oh, really?
"The NoPE release has a major key difference to other previous pirated copies of Vista - it is completely cracked, the product appears activated, updates work, and no key needs to be entered, straight from the installation media without any effort on the part of the pirate"
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-vista-install
and...
"Experts such as Brian Livingston, editorial director of the Windows Secrets newsletter, say Microsoft is intentionally allowing a loop-hole to exist, which enables more advanced users of Microsoft's operating systems to upgrade to Vista SP1 without having the necessary previous versions of Windows.
The loop-hole exists in the Vista SP1 Upgrade Edition, which requires a previous install of Windows 2000, XP, or Vista but the upgrade edition will install even if they're absent. The Vista SP1 Upgrade Edition retails for about $110 less than the full version of Vista SP1, which means users can save money on upgrading to Vista by purchasing the cheaper upgrade box.
Livingston believes Microsoft supports the hole since the upgrade edition installs over itself in Vista SP1. Although it may seem absurd at first, Microsoft may benefit from such software pirates -- if they can be called that anymore."
Steveo: "Hell, I don't even like MS as a company, but VISTA isn't as bad as folk here are making out!!"
Then why is Microsoft not only putting out a new OS and not simply a a service pack for Vista? And..if it is so great- why are they dumping it?
Answer: They want to get rid of XP and the only way is to create an OS that people will buy rather than XP. Even they can't polish the Vista turd. They have to give it a new name and hope people forget...
where does it say who they spoke to at microsoft? was it the cleaner?"
no-
"a high-ranking Windows product manager"
Steveo: "second,
everything in that articule was no different at all to when XP first came out, until SP1 came out to iron out the bugs! I remember binning a lot of software when none of it liked XP!"
How's about this for a difference? One that MS does not like....
"NPD released sales figures today for software that users install themselves on their computers. Windows Vista unit sales decreased 58.9 percent in units compared to Windows XP during their respective launch weeks, while revenue decreased 32.1 percent."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/conte...at_retail.html
Steveo: "third
ever got the feeling the real reason nobody liked VISTA was because it wasn't hackable to be pirated?"
Oh, really?
"The NoPE release has a major key difference to other previous pirated copies of Vista - it is completely cracked, the product appears activated, updates work, and no key needs to be entered, straight from the installation media without any effort on the part of the pirate"
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-vista-install
and...
"Experts such as Brian Livingston, editorial director of the Windows Secrets newsletter, say Microsoft is intentionally allowing a loop-hole to exist, which enables more advanced users of Microsoft's operating systems to upgrade to Vista SP1 without having the necessary previous versions of Windows.
The loop-hole exists in the Vista SP1 Upgrade Edition, which requires a previous install of Windows 2000, XP, or Vista but the upgrade edition will install even if they're absent. The Vista SP1 Upgrade Edition retails for about $110 less than the full version of Vista SP1, which means users can save money on upgrading to Vista by purchasing the cheaper upgrade box.
Livingston believes Microsoft supports the hole since the upgrade edition installs over itself in Vista SP1. Although it may seem absurd at first, Microsoft may benefit from such software pirates -- if they can be called that anymore."
Steveo: "Hell, I don't even like MS as a company, but VISTA isn't as bad as folk here are making out!!"
Then why is Microsoft not only putting out a new OS and not simply a a service pack for Vista? And..if it is so great- why are they dumping it?
Answer: They want to get rid of XP and the only way is to create an OS that people will buy rather than XP. Even they can't polish the Vista turd. They have to give it a new name and hope people forget...
Crabbyappleton, I think you need to go for a drink or maybe a vacation. You are so caught up with making Vista sound bad that you are blind to seeing all the wonderful points that Vista has to offer.
I use Vista after having used 3.1, Win 95, Win98, XP Home, XP Pro and I find that Vista is the best operating system that I have ever used.
Vista is only bad if you don't know how to use it or because you don't use it and just complain about.
Crabbyappleton, I don't know what your goal is in running Vista down but you are sure making yourself look stupid as you are doing so.
And speaking of Windows 7, I have it on my dual boot computer but I hardly use Windows 7 because it won't run a number of my programs but it sure does boot up fast, but there's nothing else on that Windows 7 drive. Vista also boots up extremely fast when there is nothing else on the drive it's on.
Windows 7 is just another marketing approach aimed at taking your money. I won't be making the switch to Windows 7 myself because I find that Vista Ultimate does everything I need it to do on my run of the mill, low grade Gateway computer.
I use Vista after having used 3.1, Win 95, Win98, XP Home, XP Pro and I find that Vista is the best operating system that I have ever used.
Vista is only bad if you don't know how to use it or because you don't use it and just complain about.
Crabbyappleton, I don't know what your goal is in running Vista down but you are sure making yourself look stupid as you are doing so.
And speaking of Windows 7, I have it on my dual boot computer but I hardly use Windows 7 because it won't run a number of my programs but it sure does boot up fast, but there's nothing else on that Windows 7 drive. Vista also boots up extremely fast when there is nothing else on the drive it's on.
Windows 7 is just another marketing approach aimed at taking your money. I won't be making the switch to Windows 7 myself because I find that Vista Ultimate does everything I need it to do on my run of the mill, low grade Gateway computer.
I don't think suggesting that I drink alcohol is the answer to this problem or even a vacation, because I am not the one with the problem. It is Microsoft.
This sort of comment shows how there is no leg for you to stand on other than your personal testimonial which, (no offense) holds little water in light of the present situation.
If you like it great! But, certainly you have to realize you are in a minority. So, don't put down people just because they don't agree with you.
I kind of laughed when I read you are using Ultimate Edition, as this was the biggest rip off of all the Vista iterations. In fact, I even laughed again as you said you would stick with vista. Because, there is some talk of Microsoft giving those that got hoodwinked into the Ultimate edition, a free copy of Windows 7.
But...I guess you wont be needing it....
This sort of comment shows how there is no leg for you to stand on other than your personal testimonial which, (no offense) holds little water in light of the present situation.
If you like it great! But, certainly you have to realize you are in a minority. So, don't put down people just because they don't agree with you.
I kind of laughed when I read you are using Ultimate Edition, as this was the biggest rip off of all the Vista iterations. In fact, I even laughed again as you said you would stick with vista. Because, there is some talk of Microsoft giving those that got hoodwinked into the Ultimate edition, a free copy of Windows 7.
But...I guess you wont be needing it....
I guess you didn't read my post all the way through otherwise you would have seen that I already have a copy of Windows 7 and it just doesn't impress me and worse yet, it doesn't run my Vista programs.
It seems that you are so blinded by cynicism towards Vista that you can't see anything else.
It seems that you are so blinded by cynicism towards Vista that you can't see anything else.
LOL No, I did not know that! OK Victorius and Steveo..I give up!!! http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...es/2/smile.gif I think this conversation is just never going to get anywhere and has a lot to do with personal preferences. there are XP vs Vista battles everywhere you go on the 'net.
There seems to be two camps in the Vista XP realm and no one seems to be switching sides.
I just hope Win 7 is a BIG improvement over Vista (and I will be trying it on my HTPC) .
There seems to be two camps in the Vista XP realm and no one seems to be switching sides.
I just hope Win 7 is a BIG improvement over Vista (and I will be trying it on my HTPC) .
I run Vista on a 2007 laptop and XP on a 2004 lappie. Happy with both. 'Nuff said.
There are many happy people who use Vista, i'm one of them. Then again, i knew from the outset that Vista would require faster hardware than XP did. I went 64 bit, and 8GB of ram, and that configuration blows away anything that XP could ever offer. For those that say "who needs 8GB" i usually find the people saying that don't or can't use 8GB of RAM.
There are things that Vista just does so much better. I wouldn't even consider an SSD drive on XP, for example. It does have better networking, fast file transfers (on the 64bit version) and cosmetically, it looks nicer. http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/2/puh2.gif
Win7, well, it's faster than Vista. I've been using the RC version and it kicks ass. So i'll probably get Win7 when its released.
There are things that Vista just does so much better. I wouldn't even consider an SSD drive on XP, for example. It does have better networking, fast file transfers (on the 64bit version) and cosmetically, it looks nicer. http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/2/puh2.gif
Win7, well, it's faster than Vista. I've been using the RC version and it kicks ass. So i'll probably get Win7 when its released.
That's one powerful 'puter you have.
I agee, Run Vista as Vista
eh? I gave up 3 posts ago!!
Not everyone can afford, nor wants to afford, Quad Core CPU's, 8GB Ram, Raid5 SSD's, and SLI HighEnd video cards.
The average consumer grabs a PC with a single low-end HDD, Low-End CPU, 2GB Ram (for new PC's atm) and a crappy low-end video card, because they either don't know the difference, can't afford anything better, or just use it to check email & write the occasional word document/do their home budget on excel.
While these systems are now powerful enough to easily run Vista (SP1), the confusion with M$ releasing "starter editions" alongside PC manufacturers releasing garbage PC's which were "vista capable", (meaning they'd run it without eye-candy & all the wonderful functions that made it an actual upgrade from XP, rather than a downgrade back to Win2K), alongside the major screw-up with performance in the key areas - HDD & network transfers, and that godawful UAC, did more damage to Vista's reputation than even M$ can admit.
Windows 7 has benefitted from all those criticisms, and brings a few a few new improvements, and shiny new toys, to the table.
It will be a success, even if just a mediocre success due to the GFC. They still won't be making great strides in china though
Windows 7 slaughters vista, and while benchmarks show that it's not as fast as XP, as far as I can tell, it feels faster and streamlined compared to both Vista & XP ... all those GB's of caching on normal HDD's does wonders
At any rate ... the basic PC configurations are now headbutting the 4GB limits, so there's not really any choice..
It's either windows 7 x64 & >6GB ram, or be left behind playing scripted games by yourself
The average consumer grabs a PC with a single low-end HDD, Low-End CPU, 2GB Ram (for new PC's atm) and a crappy low-end video card, because they either don't know the difference, can't afford anything better, or just use it to check email & write the occasional word document/do their home budget on excel.
While these systems are now powerful enough to easily run Vista (SP1), the confusion with M$ releasing "starter editions" alongside PC manufacturers releasing garbage PC's which were "vista capable", (meaning they'd run it without eye-candy & all the wonderful functions that made it an actual upgrade from XP, rather than a downgrade back to Win2K), alongside the major screw-up with performance in the key areas - HDD & network transfers, and that godawful UAC, did more damage to Vista's reputation than even M$ can admit.
Windows 7 has benefitted from all those criticisms, and brings a few a few new improvements, and shiny new toys, to the table.
It will be a success, even if just a mediocre success due to the GFC. They still won't be making great strides in china though
Windows 7 slaughters vista, and while benchmarks show that it's not as fast as XP, as far as I can tell, it feels faster and streamlined compared to both Vista & XP ... all those GB's of caching on normal HDD's does wonders
At any rate ... the basic PC configurations are now headbutting the 4GB limits, so there's not really any choice..
It's either windows 7 x64 & >6GB ram, or be left behind playing scripted games by yourself
Hi ranspo, you had mentioned earlier that your Vista started too slow and that my suggestion of turning on both processores to boot helped speed up start ups.
Here's another thing that will speed start ups along;
http://download.cnet.com/Startup-Del...-10068235.html
It works by holding back programs from starting until the computer has fully booted up. This program really works well once you figure out how to use it.
Another way to get your computer to boot faster is to go into msconfig> startup tab and turn off all programs other than essential programs like anti virus, mouse/keyboard programs and any favorites you may have.
You will be amazed at the difference in start up speed if you follow these directions along with turning on the 2nd processor.
Enjoy.
Here's another thing that will speed start ups along;
http://download.cnet.com/Startup-Del...-10068235.html
It works by holding back programs from starting until the computer has fully booted up. This program really works well once you figure out how to use it.
Another way to get your computer to boot faster is to go into msconfig> startup tab and turn off all programs other than essential programs like anti virus, mouse/keyboard programs and any favorites you may have.
You will be amazed at the difference in start up speed if you follow these directions along with turning on the 2nd processor.
Enjoy.
To all the Vista fans here commenting on what a great operating system it is, get a life. Everyone is not a computer no-life geek The problem with vista is pretty simple: the DRM and associated hardware overhead is unacceptable, If Windows 7 includes the same crap, it will have the same welcome from the vast majority of users. End of story.
well sirius, you should get a life for putting such a negative post up!
everyone has an opinion and just because it doesn't match your own, doesn't mean you should be such an idiot about it!
End of story!
everyone has an opinion and just because it doesn't match your own, doesn't mean you should be such an idiot about it!
End of story!
I am writing this from Windows 7 and I am telling you that Windows 7 is not really all it's made up to be. I can tell you for certain that if everyone was using Vista Ultimate on a properly equipped computer that everyone would be very happy with the Vista operating system because it's plain and simply a really great operating system. Windows 7 Ultimate, which I am using as I write is just not impressing me over Vista Ultimate.
Many thanks Victorious1, am playing with Startup-Delayer now. Configed startups earlier with success. Boots like a new 'puter with minimal programs now. Again, thanks for info.
You're welcome ranspo, I'm most happy to help.
Vista is a good operating system,and if Windows 7 is really only a Service Pack for Vista then I hope it will be free to Vista users like the SPs for XP were for its users.
Ubuntu 9.04 (or any version from 8 upwards really) .. it's made for linux noobs.
It's all GUI
Unless you really want to delve into the kinky CLI's from the 1980's
It's all GUI
Unless you really want to delve into the kinky CLI's from the 1980's
Originally posted by davlaurjen " if Windows 7 is really only a Service Pack for Vista then I hope it will be free to Vista users".
Hahahahahahahahahha!
ROTFLMAO!
Windows Vista != Windows 7.
If Win7 was a service pack, it'd be called Windows Vista - Service pack 2.
M$ will be charging Vista users for Windows7 upgrades
However, there is currently rumours that users to buy a new PC with Vista pre-installed to get a free upgrade to windows7 for anyone that nominates it at time of purchase
Hahahahahahahahahha!
ROTFLMAO!
Windows Vista != Windows 7.
If Win7 was a service pack, it'd be called Windows Vista - Service pack 2.
M$ will be charging Vista users for Windows7 upgrades
However, there is currently rumours that users to buy a new PC with Vista pre-installed to get a free upgrade to windows7 for anyone that nominates it at time of purchase
I don't know but I am running Vista Ultimate X64 SP1 and stable as it could be. Much faster in RAID than XP.
I work on systems all day, i have played a little with Vista, i don't mind it, but i have heard some realy positive feedback on windows 7
Vista runs all my games 20+% slower than XP, I could handle 5-10% but 20+% is just plain pathetic, even the jump from 98se to Xp wasn't anywhere near as bad, 7 better be an improvment.
Vista for gaming is like driving your car around with the handbrake on!
Vista for gaming is like driving your car around with the handbrake on!
Maybe having the handbrake on is your problem Wizzzzard.
I run resource hog flight simulator games on my Vista computer and everything works just fine.
Perhaps you need to set the games aside and seek out how to run your computer with a little more savvy. Do you have enough memory, do you have a slow CPU, do you have unecessary programs running, is your video card junk or is it top of the line with the latest drivers, is your screen resolution correct for the games you are using, etc. etc. etc. All these items and more must be considered before you can blame Vista. Vista is an awesome operating system for games but your computer has to be right first.
I run resource hog flight simulator games on my Vista computer and everything works just fine.
Perhaps you need to set the games aside and seek out how to run your computer with a little more savvy. Do you have enough memory, do you have a slow CPU, do you have unecessary programs running, is your video card junk or is it top of the line with the latest drivers, is your screen resolution correct for the games you are using, etc. etc. etc. All these items and more must be considered before you can blame Vista. Vista is an awesome operating system for games but your computer has to be right first.
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