Music industry files 8,000 file-share lawsuits around the world

Excellent news! Don't let the buggers get away with it. Remember p2p pirates: the net is closing in on you. Jack

Who needs p2p? I'll stick with Usenet. I'm sure before long a new system along the lines of Freenet will become popular anyway. Bring it on :g

Idiots. Their lawsuits actually encourage pirating and growth in the underground community.

I love it - badger, harass and sue as many of your customers as possible even to the point of having absolutely no clue who you are even filing suit against, in order to win back customers and generate sales. I must have missed reading the management book that advocates that strategy for success . . .:X

during this time, an african kid under 10 yo die every 5 seconds. these idiots prefer to sue ipods kids... :r

I think the lawsuits are a PR disaster for the industry… …but it does not bother me since I'm not at risk because a pay for what I own.

"…but it does not bother me since I'm not at risk because a pay for what I own." What makes you so sure? They seem to sue anybody and you will have to defend yourself whether you downloaded anything or not.

What a disaster. The music industry's greed and lawsuit filing has only served to push the p2p technology into anonymous file sharing networks like Mute or anonymous layers like TOR. Yes, they are not mainstream now, but they will be as more and more people are hassled and sued away from the current networks. In the end, the music industry will lose because of the bad press and pushing p2p technology to a point where they will no longer be able to find the culprits to sue, but worse yet, even more vile offenders like kiddie porn traffickers will now have a medium to share w/o fear of the law and the blame for that rests squarely on the shoulders of the music industry. I seriously doubt there are enough kiddie porn people out there for anonymous p2p to have developed from that shadow of the world, but mp3 sharing...I bet 95% of programmers have or still do it and here we are. The RIAA and all the lawsuit supporters trolling these forums are nothing but a bunch of delusional f#%ks. I hope you are all happy now. Go wash the blood off your hands you greedy punks.

Kain: "kiddie porn traffickers will now have a medium to share w/o fear of the law" So now you support kiddie fiddlers too? WTF? For chrissake, it's even more imperative that we shut these vile p2p networks down. They only exist to rip off copyright holders and spread kiddie porn - stuff the "fair use" rubbish What a load of bollocks! You have none. Get used to it. Stop whinging and learn something useful about copyright, here: http://www.captaincopyright.ca/ Jack
[edited by Valenti on 17.10.2006 22:43]

Jack...you're an idiot. I said that previously p2p networks were not anonymous (i.e. napster, i.e gnutella). It was easy for a security expert such as myself to track down someone on these 1st and 2nd generation networks. The stupid jihad by the music industry against 1st and 2nd generation p2p networks has caused the accelerated development of 3rd and 4th generation ANONYMOUS p2p networks that make it virtually impossible for a security expert as myself to track down people more vile than petty theft mp3 traders. Had the greedy music industry not started shotgun suing, the development of these next-gen anonymous networks would most likely have been delayed. I am not defending kiddie porn traffickers. I am blaming the music industry, YOU, and YOUR ILK for their migration over to anonymous p2p networks. You can substitute anything you want in the blank of kiddie porn trafficker. How about a terrorist? How about a software pirate? Why is it so hard for you people to understand that your "net" that is tightening has a big hole in it? As more and more people learn about anonymous p2p and as the technology gets better (which it will) you're going to be right back where you started except you'll have 20 million music swappers using military level encryption and source and destination obfuscation and it'll take obscene resources for law enforcement to catch the real bad guys (like the kiddie porn guys or terrorists).
[edited by kain on 17.10.2006 23:45]

You didn't get it. The guy was saying that, because the copyright police is attacking open P2P network users', new forms of P2P are developing, i.e. as a reaction of the copyright police actions. Therefore, when those new forms are in place and commonly used, bye bye copyright police, try to find them ghosts. And, of course, it can also be used by low lifes like kiddie porn traffickers.

Obviously Jack has a RIAA hand up his back end......... Jack you have no idea or you are just one of their puppets....

To file on people in Brazil or Mexico is plain foolishness--unless of course they are rich and can pay! The likelihood is that they'll never collect from those folks. When the minimum wage in Mexico is about $4.50 USD/day, with both Mexico and Brazil having tons of corruption at all levels from the mail to the government, that's just a total waste of time. When officials in Mexico don't create jobs for their people, yet tax them out of their minds and the Brazilian gov't considers trying to stop the 'bandits' as 'foolishness,' why think lawsuits in these countries will do anything more than waste money and net no results? Someone is NOT thinking.

Kain, while overall a relevant post, refrain from ad hominem attacks. You are certainly better served by letting your computer knowledge of security and related areas to establish your credibility. While 'Jack' may have been quite off base, this is a warning to all posters--if I am around and I see any kind of personal attack--I will use my moderation rights so that civility is maintained. All MUST remember to stick to the FACTS and the issue at hand. If someone goes off on a tangent, let your FACTS show how mistaken a statement was. Ad hominem attacks only draw unwanted attention to the posters employing them, and said attacks don't contribute to the discussion at hand.

I think one of our all time fav movies has a great quote for this ludicrous action by the IFPI Princess Leia: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. I agree the more lawsuits they file, the harder it is going to be to find anyone doing this stuff, at least those who have knowledge about computers, not your average joe sixpack.

"you're going to be right back where you started except you'll have 20 million music swappers using military level encryption and source and destination obfuscation and it'll take obscene resources for law enforcement to catch the real bad guy" Yes this is where it's heading and it might even already be there. People don't give a toss about the morals. They only care about their pocket. This theory applies on both sides of the fence. The music industry won't give up and neither will the file sharers.