PS3 likely to be region free & patent on disc->console locking

09 Nov 05 00:56 by Seán Byrne in category Uncategorized To news archive

One feature that often annoyed PlayStation 1 & 2 fans is its incorporated disc region locking, which prevents consumers buying games from outside of their designated region, just like with DVDs.  However, this policy is likely to end with the upcoming PlayStation 3, especially since the player will be designed work with the upcoming global HDTV standard.  As Sony did away with regioning for the PlayStation Portable (PSP), the Sony Computer Entertainment Australia managing director indicated they will likely follow suit for for the PS3.

Sony has already run into problems enforcing its disc regioning in Australia after it lost a lengthy legal battle against a supplier of “mod chips”.   While the court ruled that counterfeit discs were illegal, the mod chips did not violate their copyright laws and also fairly allowed consumers to use discs from other regions, one thing the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission was unhappy to see Sony trying to block. 

While it is unclear if Sony may start locking games to consumer’s consoles or on upcoming equipment, apparently Sony has registered a patent with Japan’s patent office which covers locking discs to a given machine using security codes on the disc / machine.  When the disc is first loaded, the hardware would read the disc’s unique security code, record it in its database and then physically erase it from the disc such that the disc cannot on other hardware.  However, it is unlikely for Sony to use this technology on the PlayStation 3.

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>Sony Computer Entertainment Australia managing director, Michael Ephraim, said the company was unlikely to continue the policy of region-locked consoles as international television standards emerge. Speaking to the Australia IT News service he said, “If you look at the fact that it will support high-definition TV, which will be a global standard, there’s a good likelihood that it will be global region, as for example we’ve done with the PSP.”

In related news, rumour flared overnight that the PlayStation 3 would prevent the use of used software, with technologies patented by SCEI’s Ken Kutaragi and team set to read, store and delete security codes on a per-disc, per machine basis.

The full article can href="http://spong.com/detail/news.asp?mode=news&type=n&cid=&pid=&vid=&prid=9288&n=PlayStation+3+Region+Free+%96+Blocks+Used+Game+Use"
target=_new>be read here.  Some further details on PS3 unlikely to be region coded can be read on thus href="http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,17178898%5E15348%5E%5Enbv%5E15306-15317,00.html"
target=_new>Australian IT article.

It will be
nice to see the PlayStation 3 do away with region coding, assuming this does
indeed happen.  As the PlayStation 3 will support the playback of Blu-ray
movies, it looks like that Blu-ray movies discs will away with regioning
also.  While it is quite common to hear about modifying DVD players to make
them region free, apparently this would not be as simple for Blu-ray if it
decides to incorporate regioning as these players will be href="http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12616" target=_new>designed to prevent
playback if it detects any tampering with the hardware or firmware. 

As Sony has registered a patent covering the locking of discs to the first players these discs are loaded on, hopefully this will not be implemented with the PlayStation 3.  Preventing the pirating of games is one thing, but preventing one from carrying their games (or other disc content) about is likely going to upset a lot of consumers.  This would essentially prevent consumers from bringing their games to a friend’s house or even selling off old used discs (unless they sell the console with the games).

Feel free to discuss about the PlayStation 3 and other game consoles on our Console Forum.

Source: Spong – News

15 Comments

I Have Piles
Posts: 586
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 01:09
What a load of bollocks, its just so no one can justify mod chips. My PS1 and PS2 are mod chip free, something nice about an original disc. However after the recent rootkit saga sony could supply the PS3 with a sexy bint that makes bacon butties on the hour every hour but its X-Box 360 for me even if M$ region code the discs.
Tru
Posts: 1494
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 01:29
"When the disc is first loaded, the hardware would read the disc's unique security code, record it in its database and then physically erase it from the disc such that the disc cannot on other hardware." Oh my god... I would never, ever buy such a device, if I can't play my own discs in a second player... idiots!
shimman
Posts: 596
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 02:35
the whole br drm is about locking the media to the specific machine & the network. afaik, the disk itself is encrypted that it is impossible (almost) to decrypt without the code; however, the code isn't in the disk but it has to be from the contents provider. secret code will be stored in the machine & must be updated in given intervals the encryption on each disk can be unique & once the content providers found that there is a bleach of security, then the decrypt code will be expired making it impossible to even use the machine (hdmi, remember) probably, sony won't use such measure 1st but when sony thinks that their market dominance is archived, then sony will certainly use such measures, of course, connection to the internet will be required xbox360 might end up having such measures as mr gates wants both hd dvd & br to die for hdd. he wants us to get games over the internet instead from disks; this can be very interesting.
shimman
Posts: 596
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 02:39
btw, in japan, there was a legislation (maybe just a talk from the president of gaming industry association [a president of capcom afaik]) for forbidding of trading used software especially games they are one screwed up nation...maybe next to my beloved usa :d
SamuriHL
Posts: 2877
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 03:30
There is NO way they can pull off locking a disc to a specific piece of hardware. If my PS3 dies that leaves all my discs completely useless? I don't freaking think so. I would sue very quickly...the investment in software quickly out shines the investment in hardware. (well, ok, at the suggested price of the ps3 and the confirmed price of the 360 maybe not quickly anymore, but, over the lifetime of the console, it's likely you'll buy more than 5-7 games). If my console dies and I need to get it replaced, I sure as hell ain't replacing all the games with it.
Ginsu Victim
Posts: 73
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 03:31
Wow, if they make PS3 games only work with THAT piece of hardware, they're: A) Shooting themselves in the foot (or head, for that matter). They're doomed to fail. B) Looking at a class-action lawsuit in the near future that will send the gaming world into convultions. Great job, $ony! Suicide isn't painless.
heystoopid
Posts: 307
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 03:38
Hmm, if true, this would mean SONY, would in fact be in breach of all the BUSINESS and TRADES PRACTICES ACTS in existence worldwide. With worldwide consumer and government authorities seeking to toast SONY, from head to foot. What an act of total folly
LastStand
Posts: 321
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 03:58
PlayStation 3 stats spotlighted Wireless controllers, connection to the PSP and a powerful new graphics processor technology: Take a look at the PlayStation 3's performance specifications as provided by Sony. CPU: Cell Processor '¢ PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz '¢ 1 VMX vector unit per core '¢ 512KB L2 cache '¢ 7 x SPE @3.2GHz '¢ 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs '¢ 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE '¢ 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy '¢ total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS GPU '¢ RSX @550MHz '¢ 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance '¢ Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels '¢ Multi-way programmable parallel pipelines Sound '¢ Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing) Memory '¢ 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz '¢ 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz System Bandwidth '¢ Main RAM: 25.6GB/s '¢ VRAM: 22.4GB/s '¢ RSX: 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s(read) '¢ SB: 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read) System Floating Point Performance '¢ 2 TFLOPS Storage '¢ HDD: Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1 I/O '¢ USB: Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0) '¢ Memory Stick: standard/Duo, PRO x 1 '¢ SD: standard/mini x 1 '¢ CompactFlash: (Type I, II) x 1 Communication '¢ Ethernet: (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2) '¢ Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 b/g '¢ Bluetooth: Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR) Controller '¢ Bluetoothup to 7) '¢ USB2.0: (wired) '¢ Wi-Fi: (PSP) '¢ Network: (over IP) AV Output '¢ Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p '¢ HDMI: HDMI out x 2 '¢ Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1 '¢ Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1 Disc media '¢ CD: PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM '¢ CD-DA: CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW '¢ SACDL: SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD '¢ DualDisc: DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side) '¢ DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PLAYSTATION 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video (DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW), Blu-ray Disc (PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE) From want I can see there is no recording possible.
debro
Posts: 11638
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 11:02
I might point out that much of the Sony PS2's succes came from PS1 fans, which upgraded knowing that they could take their collection of PS1 games with them... Implementation of the disc locking (or erasing!!!) seems rediculous. It's a good move (for Sony) doing away with the region coding, a scheme which was designed to artificially inflate prices. The justification for the mod chips (which plagues practically all consoles) has been removed
RaMDaY
Posts: 107
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 16:26
Wouldn't locking out disc really piss off places like Blockbuster. Ok so they make a special rental version of the games. All the pirates would just burn the rentals instead and dumb them online.
neo1918
Posts: 259
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 19:12
Mod chip justification is not dead. It's still perfectly reasonable to want to make a copy of a game, lock the original in a safe and give the copy to your kid.
teisho
Posts: 38
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 19:48
Lovely, very lovely. Those specs look really nice. Now tell me, would it really hurt sony NOT to tell you that the drive is capable of writing. After all, it's main function is to read.
Hurricane Andrew
Posts: 304
Posted on: 09 Nov 05 19:52
Hmmm... I wonder if it comes with pre-installed rootkits I won't be buying Sony products for quite some time...
[edited by Hurricane Andrew on 09.11.2005 19:53]
CPUSlayer
Posts: 103
Posted on: 10 Nov 05 06:15
The locking of discs idea is stupid and will result in consumers not buying the PS3. Every PS2 owner I know had their Dvd-rom drives die shortly after 1 year of use. So If they need to buy a replacement PS3 then they also need to buy replacement games. Haha, just let them shoot their foots off.
x43
Posts: 65
Posted on: 13 Nov 05 14:20
Hello What happens once you complete a game and want to sell it on?

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