Paramount writes letter to ISP to warn BitTorrent downloader

His downloading/uploading concerns Paramount because thats pretty much all the 'action' this film is gonna see BTW-I got a letter about 2 and half months ago from Unversal using BT :B

Since everyone on a bittorrent network is an uploader (unless you've got a hacked client), I can see this happening more often. And Paramount would have only needed to connect for a second to get an IP list from the tracker.

Well that's two studios that don't want to share.

"Also, Paramount itself MAY have been sharing this movie, otherwise, how would they know that Robert was downloading the movie from BT?" Wtf no. Its just that any person can get the ips of the downloaders from the file trackers. The tracker keeps track of all the users and that is how users find each other to download from.

Hmmm so it's very easy for someone to know your IP address when using BT to download stuff. I'm now going to have to research IP masking software.

I also got a letter from my ISP about 6 months ago from. I was downloading Bruce Almighty and apparently paramount wasnt too pleased. my ISP just told me to knock it off basically, and turned my account back on.

Best place to download is at work, not so easy to track down to a specific person. You're probably sitting behind a physical firewall, going through one or more routers, before you reach the outside world. Thereby not as easy to suss out who is downloadingsharing. Or at least not without the help of the ISP and the IT staff in the company. Cause if you are the IT staff, then I rest my case... Bit Torrent and other Files Sharing software is ok, but personally I never bother now...it's too boring waiting for stuff to come down, even with a 2MB BB service.

Are you ****ing stupid? Sounds like a good way to lose your job. Plus maybe get in even more serious trouble. [swearword removed]
[edited by Crabbyappleton on 16.02.2004 18:07]

Moves like this will accelerate ISP number masking software will become imbedded in all popular P2P programmes. Then it will be literally impossible to identify a user. The fact is only the police should be allowed to contact you're ISP to get details.Paramount or whoever has no LEGAL right to get this information. ASll these moves do is ensure that it's only a matter of a very small period of time before anyone can become anomomous on the internet.This will affect police trying to catch real criminals like child molesters who will also use the software. I would in fact hope that goverments world wide ban the likes of paramount from obtaining any information from your isp or relaying messages. The fact downloading will be driven to anominimty will have far reaching consequences for tracking real criminals on the net. I personally think people will have complete masking within 2 months and it will be thanks to the likes of paramount. Then (too late) the governments will realise what the studios,RIAA etc have done and come down hard on them,masking software is available now(for a monthly fee) it's based where the riaa etc has nopowers at all. The company has said they do not want it used excessively for downloading but say no details will be passed to any organisation as they have nopowers in the country this masking is based in. This is a good idea in that you are prtected,if you download,from the real pondscum riaa ,paramount whoever but the international police could still be able to get details of real criminals. I fear total masking where by ISP numbers are mixed to give a false and totally untraceable mask will been released soon,they will more than likely be freeware programmes by people who want to show they have the power to render you invisible on the net.So thank paramount because soon the internet will be downloaders heaven and you have their legal(and illegal) activities to thank fo this being made possible. I also think those programmes used for BT,other p2p should change the programmes used to have a user agreement stating if you are a studio,RPAA,RIAA,or any body who maywill taken legal action against a fellow user you must not use this software to do will breach our user terms and conditions this way we can sue them if anyone gets a warning. This could even be a message before a download etc stating the same thing...only if you are not member ofxxx,or will not take any legal action against a fellow user may you continue this download,click to confirm. Kazza has such a lawsuit lets see some action from the p2p software makers.Not everything downloadable is illegal we can use p2p user programmes to effective stop them spying if they breach the user agreement of your p2p software your ISP would be legally required to ignore any requests for information as they themselves would have obtained this information illegally rendering it useless.

Actually, what they (Paramount) did was pretty slick and I hope the brain dead RIAA doesn't catch on. If I read this story right, they didn't ask for details, they just said here is the IP of your customer. Tell them to halt, now. No personal info was given to Paramount nor was it requested..at this time. What "Robert" got was a copy of the letter Paramount actually sent to the ISP telling them to get off their asses and right their boy a letter or else. The ISP was used as an arm twisting servant for the studio. Of course Paramount acted as though legal action would be taken if they saw more activity from that IP address. This tactic will not get Paramount any money, but it still gets the message to the offender and doesn't involve too much effort or money from the studio. Not a bad idea actually. Especially in light of recent court decisions against the RIAAs Jihad against the public. Making personal information more expensive and convoluted process. Pull this stunt enough times and your ISP will pull the plug on your account as they have better things to do with their staff.

I'm not quite sure how this is news, it's nothing new. My best friend got the same e-mail from his ISP relaying information from the movie studio for downloading a movie via bit torrent about 3 months ago.

Nope not stupid at all...I'm in IT and run the whole show...therefore...no monitoring here... :d I download everything and anything I want at work. My DSL doesn't get much of a lookin these days!

About five to seven days after I downloaded the new Indiana film my ISP was contacted by Paramont and asked for my information. foutunately they did not give it and told paramont that they would contact me about it and slowed my connection down until I conntacted them. When I called I was asked to not use bit torrent any more for downloading movies. ( my service was retored fully).
I fnd it interesting. i was told by my ISP that Paramont had my ip. so i had to download it from them. all i can say is trap site. I'm sorry that i didn't wait another two months and purchase it from Wal Mart for $13.....

try tor it relays through different servers to mask your ip and its free

Oh it is true!! They contacted Broadstripe after I had download Curious Bejamin Button ( lame flick to get caught on for sure ). Broadstripe called the name of movie I had downloaded not the the bandwidth. So they are tracking and where I did not get fined I could get suppended from use or charged $50 for reconnection. SO be careful when downloading bittorrents!

Oh it is true!! They contacted Broadstripe after I had download Curious Bejamin Button ( lame flick to get caught on for sure ). Broadstripe called the name of movie I had downloaded not the the bandwidth. So they are tracking and where I did not get fined I could get suppended from use or charged $50 for reconnection. SO be careful when downloading bittorrents!