RIAA takes a Shotgun to traders according to legal experts

05 Oct 05 01:13 by Seán Byrne in category Uncategorized To news archive

As the RIAA keeps suing 1,000’s of people based on suspect IP addresses, it is not surprising for them to get the wrong person’s details in the odd case.  However, according to legal experts, apparently the RIAA is getting hundreds of user’s details wrong and they are given no choice besides facing the bullies, as the legal experts call the RIAA.  Suspect users either face paying a hefty settlement or more serious legal action in Court.

Even when a mother tried testifying in court about her innocence and that it was the child’s fault, the RIAA tried suing her children in an attempt to force something out of the family.  Another lady who is disabled has been targeted and this person does not know how to download music let alone recognise the P2P screen name.  The RIAA is seeking over $1 million in damages from her.

Since the RIAA lawsuit campaign began in September 2003, over 14,800 people have been filed lawsuits upon and so far over 3,300 (~22%) have settled.  A New York based attorney recons that 1,000’s of these people who have been sued are innocent, however the RIAA offers no sympathy for those wrongly targeted and in fact refuses to listen to people who try to show their innocence.  Those who talk to the settlement support centre are threatened with criminal prosecution, their credit being ruined and their names being published.

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>Hundreds of people are being wrongly sued by the Recording Industry Association of America for illegally trading music online, legal experts say.

Attorneys representing some of the 14,000 people targeted for illegal music trading say their clients are being bullied into settling as the cheapest way to get out of trouble. Collection agencies posing as “settlement centers” are harassing their clients to pay thousands of dollars for claims about which they know nothing, they say.

Last week a judge in Michigan dismissed a file-sharing case against Candy Chan, a mother who testified in court that the user name identified in the suit belonged to one of her children.

In the court report (.pdf), Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff wrote: “Chan opposed the motion and asserted that the plaintiffs used a ’shotgun’ approach to pursue this action, threatening to sue all of Chan’s children and engaging in abusive behavior to attempt to utilize the court as a collection agency.”

Judge Zatkoff dismissed the case and forbade record companies from suing Chan or her children again.

The full, rather lengthy href="http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68951,00.html?tw=wn_1culthead"
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As the RIAA is totally dependent on IP addresses to find out who to sue, there are several ways they could end up suing the wrong person.  Some IP addresses are assigned to home users dynamically, for example an IP may belong to one person one moment and then another person a short while later.  If the RIAA provides the IP’s and recorded times to ISPs with customers across time-zones, then chances are the IP address may have been used on the suspect’s PC at that time locally to the RIAA, but the IP may have been assigned to someone else according to the logs at the ISP for that same time (but different timezone) at the ISP.

Other possibilities include leaving wireless routers and access points unsecured.  While this is a bad enough threat as it is for fraudsters to tap in and try and steal information, it is also possible for neighbours to use it as a free broadband connection, not realising the risk they are putting the owners at by using file sharing software over their Internet connection.

Source: Wired News

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15 Comments

heystoopid
Posts: 307
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 03:03
This shameful behaviour is virtually a breach of the RICO Laws, and abuse of the due legal process. :r
rla
Posts: 127
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 06:45
Why haven't large retailers of RIAA product like Walmart, Cicuit City and Best Buy taken a stance? Why do they continue to do business with and promote products from companies that engage in these practices? The public needs to let these retailers know that it matters.
[edited by rla on 05.10.2005 06:46]
stevehyper12nitro
Posts: 47
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 10:52
what a fuc*ken joke, they sue people cause of suspect IP address, where in the hell is this legal, and where is there physical evidence based on their facts someone please send a member of al qaeda to the RIAA office !! :g:g:g
I Have Piles
Posts: 586
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 13:40
Once they have shut all the file sharing networks down and music sales still fall they might realise poeple just dont want to buy the shite thats pumped out today.
SPINESHANK
Posts: 145
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 15:14
I dont buy as many CDs as I used to in the past 4-6 years because: my health insurance has over doubled gas prices have over doubled my electric bill is nearly double my heat bill has doubled my grocery bill is close to double cable TV bill again near double my income has NOT doubled Have the record companies even thought this might have a slight effect on CD sales? Also I tend to purchase DVDs more now because they are as cheap or cheaper than music CDs. Why don't the RIAA sue the MPAA for stealing sales?
[edited by SPINESHANK on 05.10.2005 15:16]
shimman
Posts: 596
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 18:45
riaa should stop complaining & lower the price where people are willing to buy riaa should also stop complaining & save huge lawyer fees for their profits da should sue riaa when they wrongfully sued innocent people & make them pay for damages lawyers should sue riaa for wrongly accused for a theif of copyrights for huge settlement
hazel_wu
Posts: 83
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 19:29
When and why is that DNA can not prove someone's guilt while an IP address can?
themushroom
Posts: 188
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 21:09
After enough erronious and harassing lawsuits, the courts will see that the RIAA cries wolf a wee bit much when they are the wolf to be protected from. The problem solves itself in time. Judging by the number of people getting targetted and fighting back (X out of 14,000), the day will come in the near future.
headquarter84
Posts: 2014
Posted on: 05 Oct 05 22:10
God!!! this is the UGLIEST joke i've ever heared... and what if someone used some IP changing prog?? or some "Anonimity" tool like the time when we used JAP?? well, RIAA, if an album deserves buying.... i'm the first to buy.... but when ur not sure, u might lika' try to LISTEN to it first... we're talking about ART here RIAA-Money-Freaks... have u heared of "Art"?? u better do.. cuz it's something u'll really miss (mess)....
kain
Posts: 60
Posted on: 06 Oct 05 01:23
If you ever get a call from one of these legbreaker thugs representing the RIAA, make sure you ask for the name of the employee and the name of the firm he/she works for. That way you can sue both the RIAA AND the collection agent thugs under RICO statutes. Also make sure you have a wireless device (that you can blame for being wide open) or claim you were infected with a trojan that allowed your PC to be used by music pirates. Just make sure you don't have any physical evidence on your PC. IP's aren't fingerprints...they can point the RIAA in the right direction (on occasion), but they do not meet the burden of proof. A seized hard-drive full of MP3's...well...that's another story.
Alexandre
Posts: 72
Posted on: 06 Oct 05 08:40
Just borrow the stuff from your municipal library. It's your money at work.
Rhelic
Posts: 302
Posted on: 06 Oct 05 18:50
Stand up for yourself, there's enough people looking for a handout. Wallmart and such have no take in this either way, it's simply not their business to launch political campaigns (even if it is for the greater good). You need to help others get organized and sue back against the RIAA, don't expect OTHERS to do YOUR work. PS: Wallmart doesn't buy CDs from the RIAA, they buy it from distributers, so they aren't promiting $h1t.
Rhelic
Posts: 302
Posted on: 06 Oct 05 18:52
It's postz like deez that donut make mu wundur whuts wrong wid huminaty.
Rhelic
Posts: 302
Posted on: 06 Oct 05 18:55
>> riaa should stop complaining & lower the price where people are willing to buy It's called iTunes, you can buy a song at a dollar a pop and only buy the songs you want. On average you'll only end up spending like $3-$5 per CD. >> riaa should also stop complaining & save huge lawyer fees for their profits Agreed >> da should sue riaa when they wrongfully sued innocent people & make them pay for damages The DA is too busy with violent crimes to worry about the evil that businesses do. Didn't you watch the whole Enron fiasco, the government doesn't do squat to businesses, the people need to fight the battle for themselves. >> lawyers should sue riaa for wrongly accused for a theif of copyrights for huge settlement Lawyers don't sue anybody, companies and people sue. Lawyers just organize it for you and charge you $100/hr :P Plus a lawyer can't/won't sue a large company via proxy on your behalf.
[edited by Rhelic on 06.10.2005 18:56]
Rhelic
Posts: 302
Posted on: 06 Oct 05 18:58
>> Why don't the RIAA sue the MPAA for stealing sales? Don't give them ideas, they probably will (tech companies have already done this in the past). :P

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