Windows 7 upgrade prices leaked

Win7, hmmm, I imagine there'll be some hard core `60-70's music to go along with the ads. Remember the Stones 'Start It Up'?
I say we counter the ads with the line from the Who's 'Baba O'Riley'... "We won't get fooled again!!!"

Been testing out Win7 x64 since RC1, it's a pretty good OS, thou I feel 4GB RAM just isn't enough to run it. http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...es/2/smile.gif

Anyway, this OS is MUCH better than Vista, thankfully I got to test Vista out at work, so I didn't get burned by buying it.

I couldn't give a damn about that bloated and sloppy piece of garbage called "Windows 7". It's more of the same poor quality junk Microsoft has been foistering onto the braindead masses, yet this time it has more nasty surprises.

Wake up people and get off the Microsoft drug. They are a cold, callous and despicable company that uses thug tactics to leverage their monopoly on the PC operating system market. Their are plenty of good alternatives to Microsoft junkware.

Yes, I'm bitter and so I should be. I've had it with Microsoft and their sub-standard products. Their operating systems are flawed, insecure and dangerous. Many users don't realise this until it's too late. Take action now to protect your privacy and security by choosing free and open source solutions eg. Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE.

There is nothing pissing me off more than Linux propaganda.

Think long and hard why almost noone is using Linux and nearly everyone is using Windows.

Hell, even Linux fanatics most often have a Windows partition on their computer too. Mac owners do too now.

ok, yeah I would love to drop vista today and jump onto linux, but unless you really know what you're doing with it, then its very difficult to use! ever tried to install on linux? talk about mission impossible!!

Windows Vista/7 sucking is just an Internet meme, a bandwagon onto which every Linux fanboy wants to jump.

"Wake up people and get off the Microsoft drug. They are a cold, callous and despicable company that uses thug tactics to leverage their monopoly on the PC operating system market." - Perhaps you should consider that Windows is in the number one slot now because Microsoft created a good operating system in the first place, one that the vast majority want to use.

"Their operating systems are flawed, insecure and dangerous." - The only reason why it may seem to you that Windows is insecure is thus: It's the most popular OS and therefore it's the most attacked. Windows has its flaws, of course, but it's no more and no less prone to vulnerabilities caused by human error in code than any other OS, including Linux.

"Take action now to protect your privacy and security by choosing free and open source solutions eg. Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE." - "I want YOU for U.S. Army", "Your country needs YOU!", "VD is not V!" etc.

Some people should read the history from Microsoft,it just really isn't good software developed by Bill that made the company big.
And a profit of about 85 % on every sold copy of windows should make everybody feel uncomfortable who buy's one.

I may give it a try. Hopefully it doesn't use as much memory as Vista.

Yep.

Most of the lemmings who perpetuate Vista/7 nonsense have never even seen it, and those who have went in with the preconceived notion that it was going to be bad; and then proceeded to just repeat whatever crap they read on some fat unemployed virgin's Anti-M$ blog.

http://startupearth.com/2009/05/31/microsoft-sabotaging-firefox-with-sneaky-net-updates/

@idc, i'll have what you're smokin!

i 100% agree with what limbojoop says!

I bet you're a 360 owner too!

Care to elaborate a little and tell us why you agree with limbojoop? FYI, I'm a non-smoker. http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/2/wink.gif

Yes, I have a 360. Also a PS3, Wii and virtually every other popular home console released since 1990, so playing the "bias" card won't wash with me I'm afraid. http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im...ies/2/puh2.gif

Don't get me wrong, I use Linux from time to time when it serves its purpose (such as cross-compiling for other architectures for custom router firmware, etc.) but I don't worship any particular OS like an idol. I just use them when I need them, it just so happens that Windows gets the most use by far.

I just don't see why people always jump on Microsoft citing their business practices. I'm not going to defend them here, I do agree that some of their past antics have been questionable; but you can bet your ass that any other company, regardless of size, will do things with which some of us might not agree, in the name of furthering their business.

steveo119, have you ever used a Canon printer/scanner/camera, bought/driven a GM car, eaten at a Pizza Hut or drunk Coca-Cola?

The fact is, many, if not most, large companies do things at some point which might seem morally wrong to you and me, but we use the products because we like the products. Just because you might not agree with their actions doesn't automatically mean they make a shit product.

What I don't agree with is people spouting off propaganda about how a product is a "sloppy piece of garbage" then citing business practices rather than actually stating what the problems are with the product itself. It's even worse when they follow it up with a recommendation, but again fail to state what makes their preferred product any better.

You just have to ask yourself, who's smoking the dope here? The people who come up with the propaganda in the first place, or those who fall for it? It's certainly not me.

What about the poor old dads like me using windows XP who decided to leapfrog Vista (when it was clearly such bad news) & wait for Windows 7. Do we get an upgrade?
and is "more than 4Gb RAM required to run it" for real?.
I won't ask what i should do about my laptop with the Windows 3.1 on it - geriatric but able, like its owner!

Nothing wrong with leapfrogging Vista, I did, a great deal of people I've talked to have.

As for the RAM part, I'm running Win7 x64, with 4GB RAM, sure, it's plenty, but this OS just makes me feel like I should get an i7 CPU, and make the jump to 6-12GB, but it isn't necessary.

Don't know about your notebook with Win 3.1, gave mine away when Win 2000 came out.

Win 7 actually runs pretty flawlessly on my lappy with only 1 gig ram. for a month now, I've also had no problems getting any programs to run, and if there was a small glitch, win7 came up with a solution (probably ran it in compatible mode). The GUI is a little confusing after using the win95 interface forever, but I am pretty much used to it now.

Thank you for posting this link. I wasn't aware of this.

4GB of RAM? How many processes are running in the freaking background. That is just absolutely ridiculous. And I thought this OS was suppose to be lean or something.

As someone who actually likes Linux you have to put everything into perspective. To do my job and communicate with work I NEED Windows. To do my job and communicate with work I DO NOT NEED Linux. Not hard to see which one gets the flick. Unfortunately a lot of people fall into this category.

As I need Windows I may as well go with the best and most stable of them which I have found to be Windows 7. Enough said.

Also although I can run a Linux system ok, I believe that there is far too much in Linux which is just too hard for people with only Windows knowledge to get their heads around.

They will just have to stay with what they need as it is stupid to to rack your head up against a brick wall unnecessarily.

Just stumbled on this site - have you all been under a rock for the last year ? Youre arguing something which has been discussed, disected, and determined to be pretty good - and not just by MS faithfuls - I tri-boot kubuntu64 9.0.4, XP64, and Win 7 RC2 x64
and have to admit - it is nice -

Win7 IS suppossed to be a leaner meaner Vista-FIX... but...
I'll be darned IF I would buy a PC under the described situation!
No Way!!! Geek Squad? Haven't seen any improvement in what the little 'snot nosed' kids can technically answer at Best Buy since 1993...

ok, history would suggest that MS started things off with MS-Dos, when it was actually was PC-dos, which MS took and started things rolling! ripped off prehaps?

then we had the sun microsystems debacle. attempted monopoly?

then there was the 360 issue, where they where sooo eager to beat sony at ANY cost, they put out faulty gear and hoped no one would notice, from RRod to scratched discs, which they will not replace free of charge! winning at all costs?

then we alway seem to have this thing with xp/vista where none of the older progams would work, and none of your drivers for printers etc would work, hence you being forced to buy new gear! got the common demoninator yet? MS is an evil corporate company that will not change!


if it was 1 infringment then i would have said fine, they learn from there mistakes, but all of the ones above indicate that they never learn/refuse to learn! but because they saturate and monopolise the market, and even turn a blind eye to piracy also, there will never be a real replacement for windows!

Those are decent prices for upgrades. Even Mac owners can't complain considering they shell out $100 every year or so just so they upgrade to the next minor revision.

I dont think it's that hard to install Ubuntu, yes it's different but then it would be another windows if it was'nt!!. It's also healthy to keep other os's as an option, could you imagine is M$ was left on it's own to create even a bigger monster of an os with no alternative?
I've checked out Win7 and i quite like it, it's much beter than Vista, shame it looks so much like it, but hey!
Oh yeah Xaixai99 my OS of choice is still XP

SOUNDS OK. BUT IS IT? ANYONE TRIED IT YET?

The main problem for those that only use windows is they are the types of people that just want to click and go. Linux is a decent OS and I will not deny that. The issue that the common Joe with very little PC knowledge is that it is very hard to do the crap needed to get a certain driver installed and sometimes working in Linux. I have a mouse and I depend on the magnifier to see the PC a bit better without needing to scroll left and right. I installed Linux to see all the hype spent 2 weeks trying to get my mouse driver installed and working ( and yes I did read all over the net on my product on Linux) only to not be able to get it to work. Linux could have a bigger market if they did a few things. One no freeware OS two make it easier to install drivers as needed. Windows may be on the brink of ending after reading the debacle of netbooks and windows as it seems Google has a new OS for those netbooks and I expect that to be taking off really soon although I am against cloud computing personally. Again don't get me wrong there, is a lot of advantages with Linux over Windows. That I will not deny. I have even tried to talk some DVD backup software companies to start working on a Linux version. This is the main reason I also don't care for Linux, yes I know there is several apps to accomplish this but I am one that likes the K.I.S.S. method still. Let's not forget the PC Gaming community either. I have a PS3 and a Nintendo Wii and want a XBOX 360 due to their new motion do dad. So to be honest no bashing this or that is really needed as every person has their own personal preference. I still install Linux at times and play with it to get a better feel of the OS but I bet if the Linux OS was sold.... let's say at 250.00 to 300.00 USD per new version (not updates) then this argument wouldn't be such an argument . Honestly though those that are true Linux diehard fans should buy the OS rather than using the free version. This would then show something and not that it is just free. I used to love DVD Fab HD Decrypter until it was bundled into trial ware for the rest of the program and now that it is so bloated that it even doesn't grab my attention any longer. I want to repeat again this is just my personal preference and not bashing. So personally I think everyone is entitled to their opinion as the right to free speech states that. Now back to the free versus the paid OS's. Do you die hard Linux fans make a great donation to the Linux you use and support? By great I am referring to the amount no less than at least 75.00 USD or more per year? This that do I can honestly state that you are some good people and know what you like and appreciate what is free but contribute for further upgrades if that is what they call it ( new Versions not updates ).
Again not bashing this over that nor defending Windows in anyway but trying to use my freedom of speech as well and look at things on all perspectives and not just my personal views or feeling or thoughts etc......
I am a well-respected user here at cdfreaks and I hope those that reply here on this article take note of that, as I don't bash anything but try to offer the best solution to anyone’s problem or what they are looking for, even if there is a better free alternative I will gladly say so and not promote one product over the other.
Now if the demise of Vista carried over to future OS's then I would be bashing as it isn't easy right now due to our economy to get a small upgrade in hardware to handle the newer OS. I am always willing to try something new no matter what I prefer.

I'm sure the need for 4GB of RAM indicates the bloated size of the OS. Son laptops will need an auxilliary laptop just to carry the memory. I'm taking a wait and look attitude before I jump.
Easy_One

For people saying you need 4GB or ram you probably are biased against it and haven't or will never install windows7. I have been using it since Beta 1 and it works smoothly with 2GB of Ram system resource shows 2046 total with 960 free. Just l like how XP handled memory but better. I do suggest a clean install over upgrade but even with upgrade it works smoothly. I read of lot of people who are complaining it's bloatware I bet you that haven't even tried it. It's NOT vista.

I started using windows 7 about three months ago and my memory usage is only 680 MB out of 2.00GB. All though it is still beta but I am very happy with it. It runs my entire program with ease. It is definitely big improvement over Vista nonsense.

I'm running it fine on 2 gigs right now. Super snappy. Everything comes up instant. Are you running it on a lappy with a slower HD or something? Or are you using something like the newest Photoshop or something? For what I do I don't think it could get any snappier with just the 2.

Wow, all the people here who have actually used Win7 have good things to say about it; while all the naysayers haven't even seen it and just perpetuate the same generic accusations they've used for years the second they hear the word "Microsoft."

I don't understand why every time something "new" comes out people blindly jump on it. I tried Vista and Windows 7, and neither offered any improvement over XP so I am satisfied to stick with it until something worthwhile turns up.

I've tried all OS's and while Mac and Linux have some good points I believe Windows 7 is the best. The reason? Simply because it's rock solid and has a huge software library. MAC and Linux may be stable but the software support doesn't come anywhere near Windows. Sorry, but Mac and Linux users can no longer use the "it's not stable" criticism to justify their choice of OS over Windows. Odds on, they will find something else to complain about.

I don't know where this whole "need for 4GB RAM" comes from. Windows 7 works fine on my Asus EEE PC 1000HE with only 1GB RAM. (I played with it with 1GB and then did an upgrade to 2GB for testing; I work in a computer shop) and I didn't see much of a difference in speed. I then put RC1 on my Desktop which has 4GB memory, and I saw minimal difference in speed. Infact, it ran faster than XP did. (Bear in mind I hate XP because of all the faults that most nerds recognize--Vista runs way smoother for 98% of the apps)

Saying it needs 4GB memory is like saying you e-pen0r is larger. Seriously, get a life, 4GB is just to make applications look prettier and smoother, kind of like a $1000 rock.

Btw, I agree with IDC on the Vista remark waaaaaaaaaaay up there. Screw them guys who think it sux just because their friend says so. Pffft to humans.

I am running Win 7 RC on a Gateway laptop with 2 GB memory and a 1.60 GH Intel CPU. Runs find with this configuration, and I run multiple apps all of the time. A (very) few compatibility problems, but for the most part, it runs just fine. Price is not bad considering - hopefully this applies to anyone who has XP or VISTA installed. We'll have to see what features the Professional version has over the Honme Premium to justify the additional $50.00, though.

Linux folks, Linux. I can run it on a P2 with 64K ram and a 3MB hard drive and be totally productive, or on my intel and amd 64 bit machines with 4GB ram 500GB drives and never have to buy a single piece of software!!!!! The newer versions are easy to use and intsall and support is also free.
Becuase I don't have to spend several thousands of dollars in software, in upgrades and updates I can be extremely productive and keep that money for better things and these days there are much better things to spend that on!!!!!
I don't need a Windows partition because I can choose to run any current Windows program in an emulator with minimal performance loss, actually some programs I have tested actually run faster in some emulators than in Windows native.
And one can do all this and still have the security of Linux as my front end. So at the worst if you do loose your Window all one has to do is copy back the backup Windows image and you can be back up and running Windows in a few minutes. But if you are going to do this don't forget your backups, good practice anyway especially for Windows users.
In the long run it's all about choices personally I think Bill is rich enough and I don't need to make him or Microsoft any richer, but not everyone agrees with that. I am glad I can make that choice and I don't have a need to support him, for those who do, I am sure Bill is very greatful for them, probably sends them family pictures and Christmas cards and the such, and good for them.http://www.cdfreaks.com/jochem/../im.../4/bowdown.gif

Windows or Linux. Just how many people are shouting about the evil Linux OS without really trying it, ever(?). Nowadays 'one' can try the Linux OS and all the FREE bundled programs without even having to install the system !! The free programs are found to be on a par with windows programs (if not better!) and not rubbish from the bottom of the bucket.

Everyone has a chance to try out a Linux OS for little or no cost (other than the cd / dvd cost) for a day, week or a month, without
installation on your hard drive.
Come on guys..... do your self a favour. Afterwards if you wish you can bin the cd/dvd and your windows remains intact.
Mike Peters

I will give Windows 7 a try on one of my two back up computers before I will consider using the OS on one of my main PCs. I COULD have Beta tested Windows 7 but I elected not to. After all, if the Windows 7 release is like all of the other Operating Systems Microsoft has released in the past, it will be like a Beta test anyway (since Microsoft is notorious for releasing software that has not been debugged).

Over the years, I have used almost every PC OS Microsoft has released and NOT ONE of them ran properly from the start. In my opinion Microsoft has a track record of releasing software before it is really ready and lets their customers pay for the privilege of debugging Microsoft's software for them. Be on the lookout for Windows 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 7.4...

And for the record, Windows Vista (all versions) is the worst OS Microsoft has released - given the technology that existed when Vista was released. Once the Windows XP Professional OS finally had the bugs smoothed out, I was very satisfied with Windows XP Pro. However, Microsoft FORCED Vista on several computer manufacturers and stated that they were no longer going to offer Win XP (Pro) or support is after a certain date. When the Brainiacs back at Microsoft heard that their customers (particularly their business customers) were NOT going to accept Windows Vista OS and were evaluating non-Microsoft Operating Systems, Microsoft sent their reps out to do damage control and to assure their large customers that Windows 7 would be more like an improved version of Windows XP - than Vista. That remains to be seen.

For the record, my favorite Microsoft Operating System was Windows XP Professional - AFTER most of the bugs got worked out. Microsoft COULD have updated Win XP Pro to function like Windows 7, however, if they did that then Microsoft wouldn't be able to sell a gazillion new licenses - hence a "NEW" OS that will perform remarkably like an updated Windows XP OS would have - if XP Pro had been updated.

That's my view on Windows 7. I have 3 PCs running Windows XP Pro and 3 PCs running Vista (Home Premium, Business and Ultimate). My XP Pro systems are running smoothly and all 3 of my Vista OS PCs have been nothing but a constant source of trouble and time.

Well I actually like Vista so I am in no hurry to jump in on the next OS from MS. Vista has never given me any issues and has always been fast and clean...but to each their own

lol lol lol lol! poor windows fools, the day of the penguin is comeing.