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An update and summary on the DVDRanger Cinavia module release

Posted 07 November 2012 20:01 CET by Jan Willem Aldershoff

A hot subject in our forums is the upcoming release of software that is able to circumvent the Cinavia protection. This protection has become mandatory on Blu-ray players since 2012 and e.g. the Playstation 3 is able to detect copied discs that are protected by the Cinavia protection. While the protection has been broken by e.g. DVDFab, the developers of the protection have continuously been able to update it in such a way that it continues to protect the content of movie studios against illegal copying and thus also preventing the creation of personal backups.

The protection works by preventing playback of protected Blu-Rays and DVDs on newer Blu-Ray players by incorporating a watermark that is checked against a key which is part of the AACS protection. For example, if  a pirate would use a camera to record a movie in a movie theater, the protection would see a movie theater watermark, instead of a consumer movie watermark and if it finds something else than it expects it will stop playback of the disc.

Besides the several hacks available, a more interesting news release came from a software company developing DVDRanger, they announced that they would have a version of their software that would deal with Cinavia in such a way that their hack is also future proof.  According to them they found the solution by accident and their method works by changing the Cinavia signal is such a way that it become unreadable by a player, which according to them is a design error of the protection itself.

The software should have become available about a week ago (Halloween) but has not yet appeared which made a lot of people suspicious. The developers of DVDRanger gave them the ability to pre-order the software that would break the protection but unfortunately weren’t able to deliver on the date they stated before.  Many customers who bought the software in advance are currently afraid that they’ve lost their money.

Also the developers of DVDRanger felt they didn’t live up to their expectations and posted a message on their website stating that the release is delayed. Anyone who has developed software knows that these things happen, very, very often.

To everyone who is suspicious, we’re with you and keep an eye on it. However, we are in touch in with the author of the software, did some research and talked to insiders and think that 1) the claim of the Cinavia breakthrough is legitimate 2) the software will come out, but we don’t know when. Of course you should keep an eye on our news and you’ll be the first to know.

TSJnachos117
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 08 Nov 12 00:59
I think a better approach to Cinavia would be to protest the any studios who use it. That is, perhaps, the only way to kill it for good. Otherwise, you're just getting caught in an uphill battle.
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Zod
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 08 Nov 12 06:36
The copy protection really doesn't impact me. I don't do 1:1 copes of my blurays. I have a popcorn hour with an internal hard drive. I get lazy. I rip blurays to x265 mkv's and put them on my media box.

I think thats the biggest flaw of the whole thing. For people that aren't like me, they download their movies off the internet. Usually as a videofile, not a bluray disc image. Which means Cinavia becomes useless.
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hajj_3
MyCE Member
Posted on: 08 Nov 12 07:36
zod, ripping to 720p x264 still leaves the cinavia protection in place, the protection is in the audio. Popcorn Hour will be forced to add cinavia if they want to be able to play future bluray .iso files, if they do this then your cinavia protected .mkv files will stop working.
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Wombler
Administrator & Reviewer
Posted on: 08 Nov 12 22:35
And so the waiting game continues!


Wombler
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CDan
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 08 Nov 12 22:55
IMHO, any time a company takes money for "pre-orders", be afraid. There's no excuse for charging customers for vaporware. You charge people when you have something to sell, not before.
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Steve33
MyCE Member
Posted on: 09 Nov 12 00:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDan
IMHO, any time a company takes money for "pre-orders", be afraid. There's no excuse for charging customers for vaporware. You charge people when you have something to sell, not before.
Exactly, sooo they don't know and we don't know when or if their software will come out.
I'd say this is worse than no one claiming they have a solution.

They didn't give another date...not even which week, month or year.
This is the reality at the present time.
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zaq
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 09 Nov 12 01:57
What happens when your Credit Card chargeback deadline expires and still no software??
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Wombler
Administrator & Reviewer
Posted on: 09 Nov 12 13:45
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve33
Exactly, sooo they don't know and we don't know when or if their software will come out.
I'd say this is worse than no one claiming they have a solution.

They didn't give another date...not even which week, month or year.
This is the reality at the present time.
I don't think there is a date and it's pretty much open ended ATM.


Wombler
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