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DVDFab Announces no AACS 2.0 decryption to crack the next-gen 4K UHD Blu-rays

Posted 25 February 2016 17:04 CEST by Jan Willem Aldershoff

DVDFab just sent us a press release announcing the company will not support decryption of AACS 2.0. In the release the company stresses that it will never decrypt or circumvent AACS 2.0. Read the entire press release below:

DVDFab Announces No AACS 2.0 Decryption to Crack the Next-Gen 4K UHD Blu-rays

BEIJING — On February 25, 2016, Fengtao Software, the industry leader specializing in DVD, Blu-ray and video backup solutions,announced that the company will not crack or circumvent the next version Advanced Access Content System (publicly known as AACS), which will be used to protect the new Ultra HD (4K UHD) Blu-ray releases. Move on for the detailed story.

The New Standard The BDA, short for the Blu-ray Disc Association, revealed in 2015 the next-generation Blu-ray standard, the Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc. The new 4K Blu-ray format features a resolution of 3840 x 2160, and supports high dynamic range (HDR), higher frame rates (up to 60 frames per second), as well as object-based immersive sound, such as Dolby Atmos and DTS:X. As to the encoding, the video will be encoded under the High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC) standard, aka H.265, and use 10-bit color depth and the Rec. 2020 color space. Next, Samsung Corporation, the South Korean consumer electronics giant, introduced world’s first Ultra HD Blu-ray player during the IFA 2015. It is believed that other companies will follow suit 1Q 2016. And according to Amazon and some large Brick and Mortar stores, there are already several UHD Blu-ray titles on sale now in some locations, including The Martian, Kingsman: The Secret Service, and Exodus: Gods and Kings with more anticipated in March.

The Next Version of AACS Copy Protection Accompanying those newly released Ultra HD Blu-ray titles is the version 2.0 of Advanced Access Content System. According to a document called AACS 2.0 Draft, the new copy protection requires the Ultra HD Blu-ray players to support two AACS 2.0 functionalities, one named “basic” and the other referred as “enhanced”. Furthermore, the Enhanced AACS 2.0 requires an internet connection upon the first playback of a specific Ultra HD Blu-ray disc. As to the reason, it is said that the live internet connection is a must to retrieve a key which is stored on the device. The document also indicates that HDCP 2.2 is required in order to fully support 4K content, and Ultra HD Blu-ray players will also come up with a new feature called Trusted Execution Environment where authenticated code can be executed, which is said to be an enhanced version of BD+.

DVDFab Will Not Support Decryption of AACS 2.0 Although the debate as to whether or not it is legal to make backups of purchased commercial movie discs for personal home use has raged on for decades, the fact is that the decrypting of the copy protection never stops ever since the DVD age, and it’s not likely to stop in the foreseeable future. Now here comes the question: will there be a solution to crack AACS 2.0? Likely, there will be, publicly or secretly. However, Fengtao Software Inc. makes it clear that the company will not decrypt or circumvent AACS 2.0 in the days to come. This is in accordance with AACS-LA, (which has not made public the specifications for AACS 2.0), the BDA and the movie studios. Regarding Ultra HD support, DVDFab will concentrate development efforts on providing support for editing 4K/UHD content.

The information comes quickly after the announcement that Slysoft ceased operations after legal issues.

012
MyCE Member
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 16:23
It is indeed sad. Anydvd was my favorite but with loss of decryption for AACS 2.0 we will limited choice for near foreseeable future.
5 Agree

signals
Nightwatchman
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 16:46
Who said DVDFab was out of market or gone? Did you read the release? RIP is premature at least for DVDFab.
3 Agree

012
MyCE Member
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 16:50
Quote:
Originally Posted by signals
Who said DVDFab was out of market or gone? Did you read the release? RIP is premature at least for DVDFab.
Okay let me clear I was referring in context to AACS 2.0
I should clear it up.
0 Agree

Xercus
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 16:58
No AACS 2.0 decryption to crack the next-gen 4K UHD Blu-rays?

I will have to advice everyone not to buy the new format until a method to make a backup to protect your investment comes along.

I think it is a serious issue when they choose to treat a paying customer like a criminal. In the end, it is the customers who decides and if they do not buy any movies in such a crippled format, it will disappear.

10 Agree

coolcolors
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 17:05
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xercus
No AACS 2.0 decryption to crack the next-gen 4K UHD Blu-rays?

I will have to advice everyone not to buy the new format until a method to make a backup to protect your investment comes along.

I think it is a serious issue when they choose to treat a paying customer like a criminal. In the end, it is the customers who decides and if they do not buy any movies in such a crippled format, it will disappear.

Consider me as one of those not buying such movies. My 1080 upscale DVD and current BD movies are just fine.
3 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 17:16
Quote:
However, Fengtao Software Inc. makes it clear that the company will not decrypt or circumvent AACS 2.0 in the days to come. This is in accordance with AACS-LA, (which has not made public the specifications for AACS 2.0), the BDA and the movie studios. Regarding Ultra HD support, DVDFab will concentrate development efforts on providing support for editing 4K/UHD content.

A few questions come to mind.......if Fengtao is already on top of the consortium's 'most wanted' list,what's the benefit of NOT trying to crack AACS 2.0 and trying to be in accordance with AACS-LA?
And if they will concentrate developement on 4k/UHD editing,what's the benefit of buying this program if there's no decrypter?

There are already tons of video editors available ,and most of the succes of such programs relied on available decrypters.....
2 Agree

012
MyCE Member
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 17:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadworker
A few questions come to mind.......if Fengtao is already on top of the consortium's 'most wanted' list,what's the benefit of NOT trying to crack AACS 2.0 and trying to be in accordance with AACS-LA?
And if they will concentrate developement on 4k/UHD editing,what's the benefit of buying this program if there's no decrypter?

There are already tons of video editors available ,and most of the succes of such programs relied on available decrypters.....
I can think of two possibilities with regards to Fengtao developing 4K,UHD editing program.

1. Create program to edit video personal user make or capture.
2. Offload decryption on someone else shoulder.

We will see what happens in next few months.
0 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 17:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by 012
I can think of two possibilities with regards to Fengtao developing 4K,UHD editing program.

1. Create program to edit video personal user make or capture.
2. Offload decryption on someone else shoulder.

We will see what happens in next few months.

And my question still stands...
Who'll spend money on such program?
What's the benefit for us customers buying a new 13-in-a-dozen editor if the market is already,or will be flooded with such programs?
People will have enough on even Nero for that....

It's a decrypter we need......
0 Agree

Liggy
Senior Administrator
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 17:41
Before thinking of a decrypter for AACS 2.0, I think you first need to have PC drives that support reading these discs. I have not seen announcements from any company so far. Only a couple of standalone players that seem to be very expensive.
1 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 17:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liggy
Before thinking of a decrypter for AACS 2.0, I think you first need to have PC drives that support reading these discs. I have not seen announcements from any company so far. Only a couple of standalone players that seem to be very expensive.

It's quite simple.....if the multimedia industry wants their new media format adopted worldwide,they will have to allow compatible devices.
Otherwise,it will stay an exotic format for a niche market,with people who purely buy it for bragging rights....jm2c...
7 Agree

pirum
MyCE Junior Member
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 20:10
I think copy protection reduces the number of sold BD units, and in the long run the number of sold BD movies. Yes, streaming is big, but Bluray still hasn't overtaken DVD. Amazing. Well, 1080p is still good enough for me, I won't consider 4K bluray until more movies are released in high frame rate.
0 Agree

voxsmart
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 20:19
No worries here about decrypting AACS 2.0 I for one will not be buying a 4K Blu-ray player, or the discs.
5 Agree

DrinkLyeAndDie
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 20:21
Slysoft is gone. DVDFab is going to skip on AACS 2.0. Yep, this is effectively the end. When a required mechanism like AACS is simply ignored then then what's the point? What happens with AACS 3.0 - if it even ever exists - when say 8K is mainstream?

This decision is simply the writing on the wall for all of it. Sad part is that the Industry is in for a rude awakening. None of this will benefit disc sales.
2 Agree

coolcolors
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 21:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by voxsmart
No worries here about decrypting AACS 2.0 I for one will not be buying a 4K Blu-ray player, or the discs.
Right with you here. The movie list now are short in quality and entertainment value they aren't worth buying.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrinkLyeAndDie
Slysoft is gone. DVDFab is going to skip on AACS 2.0. Yep, this is effectively the end. When a required mechanism like AACS is simply ignored then then what's the point? What happens with AACS 3.0 - if it even ever exists - when say 8K is mainstream?
With the price of the player and people needed to first upgrade their TV to get that option will more or less kill it before it comes out. Most just went to BD entertainment and they expect them to buy new hardware??

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrinkLyeAndDie
This decision is simply the writing on the wall for all of it. Sad part is that the Industry is in for a rude awakening. None of this will benefit disc sales.
You mean not paying the Music Artist but claiming to represent them? That was coming a long time ago.
0 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 21:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrinkLyeAndDie
Sad part is that the Industry is in for a rude awakening. None of this will benefit disc sales.

Agreed!And I wonder where they're gonna put the blame on this time,as the 'pirating' excuse will be obsolete...
2 Agree

voxsmart
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 21:47
I think the inevitable result is that ACSS LA will bury themselves in their own stupidity.
I really hope they do.
6 Agree

alan1476
Administrator, Software Editor and Head of Promotions
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 22:27
As far as I am concerned, there are many movies readily available, that I have not seen. I will watch those. I wont make copies because once I have seen it, its just another waste of my time to watch it again. My son is over 23 and doesnt watch Disney 10 times a day anymore, somehow in all of this we missed the fact all of this new crap costs a lot of money, here in the states good jobs are rare, everyone could do themselves a favor and keep that movie money in your pocket and spent it on something you actually need, or for heavens sake, save it. No, that would blasphemy.
1 Agree

voxsmart
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 25 Feb 16 23:47
There are so many ways to get to watch movies now, it's hardly worth buying new ones on disc. I can stream them, or If I really want a hard copy, there are usually loads of cheap second had DVDs and Blu-rays around.
Apart from that, my nearly £3000 TV doesn't have an HDMI 2.0a or an HDCP 2.2 input. It will display 4K, but only by streaming. At my time of life, I ain't buying another TV either.
So as I said, I won't be buying 4K Blu-ray equipment.

Just a thought Alan,

TEL THE TRUTH AND ALL YOUR LIES BECOME BELIEVABLE?
2 Agree

DrinkLyeAndDie
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 00:24
I like bonus features. A lot. Behind the scenes stuff is great for really good movies. Have yet to see those streamed. Maybe they are? I've never seen it. Plus there's a delay in release and streaming via many online services. Netflix still has many discs only available for disc rental. Contracts get renewed or expire so you have no assurance you'll have access, etc. To be sure you'll be able to stream anything you want you'll have to get Netflix, Amazon VOD, Hulu, HBO Go (?), and whatever else due to exclusivity at like $9.99 or more a month. See where I'm going on this? In the end it'll cost far more plus you still have to pay for the internet connection. More importantly, however, I can't wait to see the US internet infrastructure crash and burn under the load of everyone being forced to stream and then 4K... then 8K, etc. Providers won't spend money as it is. Upgrades to infrastructure? LOL. Yeah. How much will they jack up rates if they do actually do what they should have been doing all along. The US pricing for internet is already ludicrous without raising it.

Ownership of a physical copy is the ONLY way you will ever be able to know that you can watch something whenever you want and that's what is slowly being taken away from us and most people simply just don't seem to care which completely frightens me.
5 Agree

alan1476
Administrator, Software Editor and Head of Promotions
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 00:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by voxsmart
There are so many ways to get to watch movies now, it's hardly worth buying new ones on disc. I can stream them, or If I really want a hard copy, there are usually loads of cheap second had DVDs and Blu-rays around.
Apart from that, my nearly £3000 TV doesn't have an HDMI 2.0a or an HDCP 2.2 input. It will display 4K, but only by streaming. At my time of life, I ain't buying another TV either.
So as I said, I won't be buying 4K Blu-ray equipment.

Just a thought Alan,

TEL THE TRUTH AND ALL YOUR LIES BECOME BELIEVABLE?
You think like me, I won't be buying 4K Blu-ray equipment either.
0 Agree

Seán
Senior Administrator & Reviewer
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 00:37
As HDCP 2.2 seems to be broken, maybe it is just not worth trying to break AACS 2.0 just to gain the ability to copy the menu/interactive content that obviously can't be rerecorded from the HDMI output.
1 Agree

DrinkLyeAndDie
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 00:43
Quote:
Originally Posted by alan1476
You think like me, I won't be buying 4K Blu-ray equipment either.
The only 4K gear I will likely own is a UHD TV when the time comes that I need to get a new TV and that may be the only choice I have. I had already planned on not partaking in 4K but this whole "situation" has made me all the more determined to simply give the Industry my middle finger and refuse to give them any money at all.
1 Agree

Kerry56
Administrator
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 00:44
By the way, it looks like the LG BH16NS50 / BH16NS55 or 2nd generation BH/WH14NS40 can read the Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. Of course, they can't play the content yet, since there is no software player yet, but they are able to read the files on the discs.

Thread at AVSforum
0 Agree

Pelvis Popcan
MyCE Member
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 00:52
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrinkLyeAndDie
Ownership of a physical copy is the ONLY way you will ever be able to know that you can watch something whenever you want and that's what is slowly being taken away from us and most people simply just don't seem to care which completely frightens me.
It's amazing to see how many people either don't care or actually welcome the loss of freedom... indoctrination? Subliminal penetration? Who knows? I've seen it for a long time now, I agree, it is pretty scary.

Especially this gem with AACS 2.0 "Enhanced":

Quote:
Furthermore, the Enhanced AACS 2.0 requires an internet connection upon the first playback of a specific Ultra HD Blu-ray disc. As to the reason, it is said that the live internet connection is a must to retrieve a key which is stored on the device
Physical copy plus hardware is no good with that if it's not connected to the Internet.
1 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 07:00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seán
As HDCP 2.2 seems to be broken, maybe it is just not worth trying to break AACS 2.0 just to gain the ability to copy the menu/interactive content that obviously can't be rerecorded from the HDMI output.
What a coincidence!
Bought this device 1 day ago to have it at hand before it eventually will dissapear from the www.....
0 Agree

Xercus
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 17:49
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrinkLyeAndDie
I like bonus features. A lot. Behind the scenes stuff is great for really good movies. Have yet to see those streamed. Maybe they are? I've never seen it. Plus there's a delay in release and streaming via many online services. Netflix still has many discs only available for disc rental. Contracts get renewed or expire so you have no assurance you'll have access, etc. To be sure you'll be able to stream anything you want you'll have to get Netflix, Amazon VOD, Hulu, HBO Go (?), and whatever else due to exclusivity at like $9.99 or more a month. See where I'm going on this? In the end it'll cost far more plus you still have to pay for the internet connection. More importantly, however, I can't wait to see the US internet infrastructure crash and burn under the load of everyone being forced to stream and then 4K... then 8K, etc. Providers won't spend money as it is. Upgrades to infrastructure? LOL. Yeah. How much will they jack up rates if they do actually do what they should have been doing all along. The US pricing for internet is already ludicrous without raising it.

Ownership of a physical copy is the ONLY way you will ever be able to know that you can watch something whenever you want and that's what is slowly being taken away from us and most people simply just don't seem to care which completely frightens me.
I'd say you have great points in that text... A tad the same that scares the shit out of me when people say 'so what, I got nothing to hide' when it comes to privacy - If they only knew what their attitude may lead up to, they would block, scream, bang them pots and pans, make whatever noise to stop it.
0 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 26 Feb 16 18:40
Just an idea for Slysoft and Fengtao..... put up a .torrent link to a regulary updated decrypter trial and include a bitcoin tag in the archive to make people buy it.......good luck for the AACS-LA consortium to try finding ya......
0 Agree

hogger129
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 29 Feb 16 17:22
I'm not worried. UHD is useless to me as I don't even have a TV where it's noticeable. I don't have a player for these disks either. I will continue to buy Blu-ray. What I am worried about is AACS 2.0 working its way into regular Blu-ray and DVD. Besides, if DVDFab will not crack AACS 2.0, someone else will step up in their place. I don't get why they keep pulling these stupid DRM schemes. Not one of them has stopped pirates going all the way back to the days of VHS.
0 Agree

Xercus
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 29 Feb 16 17:34
Quote:
Originally Posted by hogger129
I'm not worried. UHD is useless to me as I don't even have a TV where it's noticeable. I don't have a player for these disks either. I will continue to buy Blu-ray. What I am worried about is AACS 2.0 working its way into regular Blu-ray and DVD. Besides, if DVDFab will not crack AACS 2.0, someone else will step up in their place. I don't get why they keep pulling these stupid DRM schemes. Not one of them has stopped pirates going all the way back to the days of VHS.
That is true, nothing is uncrackable and cracked it will in time.
What is troublesome in the case of protections is that the paying customer is the only one who is affected by them and one could argue that the cracked copy is a superior product compared to the original.
I wonder when they will see that fact - As it is today, the paying customer is treated like a criminal...
1 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 29 Feb 16 20:03
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xercus
What is troublesome in the case of protections is that the paying customer is the only one who is affected by them and one could argue that the cracked copy is a superior product compared to the original.
Totally agreed!A paying customer with his expensive home cinema set is f*cked when he wants to backup his expensive media for safety,while a neighbour kid just downloads a cracked copy and streams it through the whole house without any DRM restrictions...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xercus
I wonder when they will see that fact
The day when pigs can fly....
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Xercus
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 29 Feb 16 20:29
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadworker
The day when pigs can fly....
Sadly, I think you're right. It is even narrow tunnel vision, if they spent the same amount of money trying to change the attitude towards downloading and put a little trust in their customers by removing the DRM altogether, much could have been gained. But oh no, it has to be done by restrictions and force, thus they fuel the piracy fire instead of trying to put it out.

It is like hogger129 writes above and I have written before as well, they will never manage to stop their products from being pirated anyway so why bother. We saw the same for music a decade ago and we have seen it through the entire history of computing for software.

What they do today is piss off buying customers by viewing them as potential criminals. It is a sad ending when they have to be reminded that they are actually relying on movie buyers for income and that moves like this will not be beneficiary for them in any way.
I mean, what good will it do punishing the paying customer by restricting them? As I see it, in the short run they are in reality leading more people to illegal sites to download the backup they can not create themselves, and in the long run contribute to changing the attitude towards using illegal sites for the worse.
1 Agree

roadworker
MyCE Resident
Posted on: 29 Feb 16 20:45
Greedy Hollywood is killing the chicken with the golden eggs to see how many are left inside......a much better approach would be to give that chicken a lot of grain and corn...
0 Agree

talkative
New Member
Posted on: 13 Mar 16 16:49
Home game consoles (Playstation 4, Xbox One, Wii U) all use Blu-Ray-based discs now. I guess nobody is complaining they can't back them up? The next generation of consoles will probably use higher-capacity discs.

People still support Hollywood by buying their crappy tired, brainwashing propaganda. I guess the next generation of Hollywood Propaganda will use higher-capacity discs. Since Blu-Ray drives still aren't seen in cheap laptops, I think Blu-Ray has some way to go to overtake DVD for movies. A new format has even less chance of overtaking Blu-Ray for movies.

There is a general move away from discs, even though they are still essential for pre-recorded content that takes up a lot of space. I couldn't care less about Hollywood. My only desire is a good cheap format for data back-up. I want is a high-capacity optical disc with reasonable price. It is well overdue. Blu-Ray capacities & speeds don't cut it & can't really compete with hard drives. But I don't like hard drives.
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talkative
New Member
Posted on: 13 Mar 16 17:02
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda movies on disc
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda that is streamed
* coudln't care less about Hollywood Proopaganda back-ups (all game consoles don't allow back-ups of their Blu-Ray-based discs either)
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda in HD
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda in Ultra HD
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda movie studios
* couldn't care less about early adoopter pricing on hardware & discs

* couldn't care less about anything but backing up my own data to optical cheaply
* My movies. My graphics. My pictures. My data.

Blu-Ray is too small & slow.
Make that happen cheaply enough to compete with hard drives and you have some sales.
0 Agree

hogger129
MyCE Senior Member
Posted on: 19 Mar 16 16:25
Quote:
Originally Posted by talkative
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda movies on disc
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda that is streamed
* coudln't care less about Hollywood Proopaganda back-ups (all game consoles don't allow back-ups of their Blu-Ray-based discs either)
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda in HD
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda in Ultra HD
* couldn't care less about Hollywood Propaganda movie studios
* couldn't care less about early adoopter pricing on hardware & discs

* couldn't care less about anything but backing up my own data to optical cheaply
* My movies. My graphics. My pictures. My data.

Blu-Ray is too small & slow.
Make that happen cheaply enough to compete with hard drives and you have some sales.
I see them like Microsoft. Don't like the company, but I like some of the stuff they make. As for beating hard drives, don't optical discs like DVD or BD still outlast a hard drive?

The problem I have with hard drives is that I want to store lots of movies on them, but I have so many movies that I have to cut the quality down considerably for all of them to fit. Otherwise I run out of space.

What they really need is fairly priced downloads that are the same quality as BD in terms of picture and audio quality, but with a compression algorithm that can squash it down to ~4 or 5GB without a loss in quality. It would be nice if x265 was that efficient, unfortunately it isn't.

I'm usually happy with Netflix. I rent stuff now and then on disc, stream things I want to watch. My only problem with the streaming is that there isn't jack chit available there. They need to put more popular movies on it.
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