Intel SSD roadmap through Q1 2011 leaked

17 Aug 10 08:00 by Randomus in category Solid State (ssd) To news archive

The 2011 Intel roadmap for CPUs and solid-state drives was recently published on the Internet, giving tech followers a brief glimpse into Intel’s product lineup through March 2011.

The new products are significant because they are the newest drives after a chip shrink, include better data encryption, a new controller, and faster read/write speeds compared to older generations.  Intel is stepping up and showing competitors what they’re going to have to deal with in two key SSD markets over the next year.

Intel is scheduled to release a 400GB multi-level (MLC) SSD product for the enterprise during Q1 2011, however, pricing information wasn’t released.  The company will also release a 40GB and 80GB SSD based on 32nm process technology and will be designed as a PCIE full SATA SSD.

The cheapest X25-V SSD (40GB) will remain a 2.5-inch SATA drive, but will ship with 80GB of storage and a 25nm MLC controller.  The 80GB and 160GB X18-M SSDs will become 160GB and 300GB SSDs in 2011, with matching 25nm MLC process upgrades, Intel’s roadmap indicates.

These leaks from Intel aren’t necessarily “leaks” as much as coordinated news releases from Intel’s PR team.  A select few tech sites are well known for publishing Intel news just slightly ahead of other sites — and most of the information eventually finds it way to tech consumers and journalists.

Furthermore, Intel plans to continue developing SSDs for consumers and the enterprise, and will find new channels to market the products.  Earlier in the summer, Best Buy and Intel announced the popular store will begin selling Intel SSDs directly to consumers in-store, branching SSD’s out into a wide new audience of tech buyers.

The company’s joint effort with Micron has yielded the Intel-Micron Flash Technologies (IMFT) 25 nm MLC NAND flash technology that is expected to be widely used for future generations of products.  Intel will continue developing new products for consumers and businesses, as interest in SSDs increases even more in the future.

30 Comments

jalyst
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Posted on: 17 Aug 10 14:09
sweet!
debro
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Posted on: 17 Aug 10 15:45
Yay!
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 17 Aug 10 15:59
o'rly?! ;-P
vroom
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Posted on: 17 Aug 10 16:56
If they can keep the price low it would be really nice for the consumer.
jalyst
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Posted on: 17 Aug 10 16:59
bloody oath! I just got me 2R0 X25-V
Blu-rayFreak
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Posted on: 17 Aug 10 19:12
Who would've guessed that Intel would bring SSD technology to the masses?
Dee
Posts: 11994
Posted on: 17 Aug 10 23:29
I'll be waiting to see what the prices are really like.
Some have said that 25nm is much less expensive to make compared to 34nm, 50nm. I don't doubt that, but from what I have heard, 25nm will have lower Pe values , typically 3000 cycles, and that will mean more NAND provisioning is required.

You could end up having 128GB of NAND to provide 80GB of user space, so more NAND chips will be required compared to 34nm NAND.
Prices may not be as attractive as many people think.

For Lyndonvale, I've heard they will be using eMLC NAND (enterprise grade MLC) which will have a Pe value of 20,000 cycles. I guess this NAND wont be cheap to produce.

SandForce are already using 20nm NAND in a new product. I'll bring you more on that later.
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 18 Aug 10 07:18
Intriguing, thanks for sharing your insights...
What are Pe values exactly?


SandForce are already using 20nm NAND in a new product. I'll bring you more on that later.


Oh so they're not sitting idly by & letting the big boys reclaim the lead for a while?
Good on em, I look forward to hearing more about this!
debro
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 08:23
Photo-Electrovoltaic?
Portable Executable?
Physical Education?
Preinstalled Environment?
Precision Error?

What do you mean .. sitting idly by and letting the "BIG BOYS" reclaim the lead.
It's hard to think of any silicon companies bigger than intel.

Intel is so big, it can afford to subsidise their CPU's to price competitors out of the OEM market .. illegally if required.
jalyst
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 08:49
Intel is who I meant by "big boys"
Dee
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 09:31
Sorry, Pe (program, erase) = write cycles.

BTW: I think the 20nm NAND is from Toshiba/Samsung, but I need to check.
vroom
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 10:23
I only hope that they will find a way to drop the price without lowering the capacity of the hard drive.
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 18 Aug 10 14:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee View Post
Sorry, Pe (program, erase) = write cycles.

BTW: I think the 20nm NAND is from Toshiba/Samsung, but I need to check.
Ah write cycles, clearer now, thanks.
Oh yeah, I wasn't thinking sandforce would be fabbing the actual NAND.
Please keep us in the loop, you rock!
jalyst
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 14:09
Quote:
Originally Posted by vroom View Post
I only hope that they will find a way to drop the price without lowering the capacity of the hard drive.
Definitely!
And I hope Dee's earlier assertions about lower PE for 25NM NAND, don't prove to be correct!
Dee
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 18:12
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Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
Definitely!
And I hope Dee's earlier assertions about lower PE for 25NM NAND, don't prove to be correct!
Unfortunately it's down to physics. If you shrink the NAND you also shrink the write cycles.
You can get around this but the cost is prohibitive.

As a rough guide for MLC NAND
50nm = 10,000 cycles
34nm = 5,000 cycles
25nm = 3,000 cycles, but could be as low as 1,500 cycles

Another way, and the one that SandForce uses, are new ways of bringing down write amplification. SandForce uses a technology they call DuraClass, which compresses data before it's written to NAND, and also employs very smart garbage collection algorithms.

I don't think Intel will use compression, but let's wait and see.
bean55
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 19:22
Thanks Dee for the update
Burnsama
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Posted on: 18 Aug 10 20:59
Good News
it is better read & write speed than Gen 2 Intel SSD ?
Dee
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Posted on: 19 Aug 10 09:39
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Originally Posted by Burnsama View Post
Good News
it is better read & write speed than Gen 2 Intel SSD ?
According to Intel, yes performance is enhanced.
Burnsama
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Posted on: 06 Oct 10 20:28
Intel G3 250MB read and 170MB Write
2011 Q1 Intel G3 SSD ( with Powerful SandForce controller ) and I7 - 990X ( 6 Core / 3.46Ghz )
more info here
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3965/i...specs-revealed
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 07 Oct 10 08:11
yeah saw that, nice hey!?!
Dee
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Posted on: 07 Oct 10 09:28
I don't think the G3 will be using a Sandforce controller, Burnsama, more likely a new Intel controller.
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 07 Oct 10 09:30
yeah i was a little confused by that point TBH
Burnsama
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Posted on: 29 Oct 10 21:11
160GB ( Retail $360 ) 600GB ( Retail $1.200 )
February 2011 launch.
It isn't get cheper still $2 for per GB
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 29 Oct 10 21:15
Eiiish, well that sux, there was a lot of talk that cheaper was gunna happen.
Chriscreative
Posts: 72
Posted on: 12 Nov 10 03:10
I predicted a chip shrink after Intel’s enouncement that they wont use SSD Tec on there chip’s in the near future, I hope this is a step in the rite direction.
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 12 Nov 10 03:27
I'm sorry could you please clarify what you're saying?
Just not quite getting what you're saying, no offense intended.
Chriscreative
Posts: 72
Posted on: 12 Nov 10 04:17
The same as not adapting USB 3 Technology on their chips. Intel enouncement earlier this year that they will postpone USB 3 Tec on there chips. Hope this will help or I can supply a link.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...b-3-until-20/1
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 12 Nov 10 16:06
nope still not getting you sorry, I must be fatigued, can anyone else explain?
Chriscreative
Posts: 72
Posted on: 13 Nov 10 04:03
I am saying positive is a step in the rite direction the same as what Dee quote on similar threads in Intel cuts SSD prices (It's amazing what some competition in the performance rivalry can do.
I don't suppose Intel price drop has anything to do with OCZ's latest Apex and Vertex drives being faster than the Intel M models, at half the price) Any improvements from any company is a step in the rite direction.
jalyst
Posts: 88
Posted on: 13 Nov 10 07:00
"I am saying positive is a step in the rite direction..."

You mean Postville is a step in the right direction?
Okay I think I understand your main point now...

Yes I too am looking forward to the next 6mth, exciting times in SSD land.

Cheers

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