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LimeWire owes the RIAA 1.5 trillion?

Posted at 09 June 2010 05:12 CET by Randomus

The ongoing legal drama between file sharing program LimeWire and the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has taken another twist, with at least one attorney claiming LimeWire owes the RIAA more than $1.5 trillion.

Specifically, Kelly M. Klaus, with the Munger, Tolles & Olson law firm, believes LimeWire has to pay $1.5 trillion for 200,000,000 alleged copyrighted music downloads, which is $750 per infringement.

“As in Grokster and Aimster, Plaintiffs have been and will be irreparably harmed because Lime Wire will most likely be liable for more in damages than it will ever be able to pay,” Klaus said in a legal brief.  ““Plaintiffs seek statutory damages under the Copyright Act as a remedy for Lime Wire’s unlawful conduct. (First Amended Complaint ¶¶ 74, 87, 99). Where the defendant’s conduct is willful, the range of statutory damages runs from $750 to $150,000. See 17 U.S.C. § 504(a)(2)-(c).”

It’s obvious the RIAA won’t be able to secure such a major monetary settlement — and it’s just further proof the RIAA is only in it for the money.  If the RIAA wants to try and figure out how to convince consumers to stop using P2P, John Doe lawsuits and shutting down P2P clients is the wrong way to go about it.

Furthermore, there are several new LimeWire-like clients that are already available — and shutting down the original LimeWire — seems like it could be a waste of time.  If anything, it’ll be a morale booster and money maker for the RIAA, but it will mean very little.

The RIAA has filed an injunction asking for LimeWire to be permanently closed down, although the service has been given a temporary reprieve.  Critics argue that shutting down LimeWire will do very little in the overall battle against P2P piracy, with numerous other P2P services already flourishing.

LimeWire has been under higher U.S. government scrutiny since May 2009, with lawmakers then calling for file sharing legislation.  Since then, LimeWire has been under growing pressure to crackdown on piracy – and has been unable to appease the RIAA and lawmakers.

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There are 20 comments

MyCE Resident
Posted on: 09 Jun 10 05:24
    Well good luck with that, lie they think anyone is going to fork over that kind of money. Do they think they are suing a country?
    I don't think anyone cares what they say about the issue anyways as all they know is sue everyone and hope it goes away and they make money from folks any way they can till they go away for not being able to adapt to changing times.
    MyCE Senior Member
    Posted on: 09 Jun 10 05:35
      Mr. President- "Dr. Evil, this is 1969. That kind of money doesnt even exist!!"
      MyCE Resident
      Posted on: 09 Jun 10 06:27

        one TRIIIIIIIIIILION dollars
        MyCE Resident Commenter
        Posted on: 09 Jun 10 16:29
          Will they take a post-dated cheque?
          Dedicated DoMi groupie
          Posted on: 09 Jun 10 16:46
            How can they claim more in damages then the sum total of the entire recording industry and Limewire put together? lawyers are amazing!
            MyCE Resident
            Posted on: 09 Jun 10 22:20
              I agree with Dartman, who do they think LimeWire is, the US Government? :-P
              Dr. Who
              MyCE Resident
              Posted on: 09 Jun 10 23:20
                Just in!

                Limewire now asked for a bailout
                New Member
                Posted on: 10 Jun 10 16:46
                  I'm sorry, but the RIAA and their lawyers are idiots. The artists need to shut them down and deal directly with the public, This will be better for everyone in the long run.
                  MyCE Junior Member
                  Posted on: 10 Jun 10 16:52
                    Whatever Kelly's smokin' gimme some of that! And the RIAA owes me for all the songs I had to shell out money for back when they forced us to buy multiple songs on CDs. I did a quick calculation on my broken Speak n Spell and throwing in half the world's population who were scammed in the comes to $372,858,675,309 and 17 cents, but I'm not one to get greedy, so I'll just round it down.
                    New Member
                    Posted on: 10 Jun 10 19:08
                      Is anyone, besides me, getting tired of hearing about the RIAA?
                      If the recording industry made their prices so low that it made piracy more of a hassle than just buying the media, wouldn't that solve the problem?
                      Or is there more money in the tort system?
                      MyCE Resident
                      Posted on: 10 Jun 10 19:19
                        Radiohead lead singer Thom Yorke says the big Music Industry record labels are dying:
                        Senior Moderator
                        Posted on: 10 Jun 10 20:54
                          Originally Posted by Blu-rayFreak
                          Radiohead lead singer Thom Yorke says the big Music Industry record labels are dying:

                          Mr. Belvedere
                          MyCE Resident
                          Posted on: 10 Jun 10 22:35
                            Just 1.5 trillion dollars? No problem.

                            New Member
                            Posted on: 10 Jun 10 23:08
                              What a joke. If the whole industry isn't even worth that kind of money, how could Limewire have created that kind of loss for them? Whatever happened to putting caps on lawsuits? When businesses are fined, we are the ones that end up paying in the long run because they just pass the cost on. Example . . . every time the big oil companies are fined, the prices go up at the pump. The might as well just fine us and eliminate the middle man.
                              A few years ago, you could buy just about any good quality CD for $11.98. Then the industry decided to cheapen the quality of CDs and raise the price to almost double. They shot themselves in the foot. They only have themselves to blame for all the problems they've been facing these past few years with P2P networks. I use to buy CDs all the time. I have close to 1700 of them. Now that the price is so high, I watch music channels like Pladia on Satellite TV and listen to SiriusXM and rarely buy music any more.
                              New Member
                              Posted on: 10 Jun 10 23:52
                                yes it's all a joke , the top 100 hits are on tv each week complete with clip video clip simply record onto dvd recorder . are they thick or what.
                                MyCE Member
                                Posted on: 11 Jun 10 12:57
                                  Originally Posted by Baldrac
                                  I'm sorry, but the RIAA and their lawyers are idiots. The artists need to shut them down and deal directly with the public, This will be better for everyone in the long run.
                                  RIAA is The Recording INDUSTRY Association of America. They don't represent artists the represent the big music companies. They know there is no way to stop sharing and are more than happy to keep fighting. They are all bloodthirsty Lawyers and more billable hours is more money. They really don't care about file sharing, it is just how they get rich an everyone's expense. The US has more than 75% of the lawyers in the world and universities pump out thousands more every year. They all want to get rich and don;t care how they do it.
                                  MyCE Rookie
                                  Posted on: 11 Jun 10 21:20
                                    For the next fairytale.... The RIAA may collect their stated amount from LimeWire, forcing them out of business, put all execs on suicide watch and then they'll turn the money over to the Government to help erase part of the national debt, right? Right? Hello, is this thing on...
                                    MyCE Rookie
                                    Posted on: 17 Jun 10 19:30
                                      Since the supreme court ruling against the NFL in the American Needle vs NFL case (see in MYCE the lawyers should have the case dispmissed on grounds that the RIAA can not sue on behalf of the recording artist,. That each artist must independently file thier own legal suit. The way I see it this puts both the RIAA and MPAA out of the lawsuit business
                                      MyCE Member
                                      Posted on: 06 Aug 10 21:14
                                        Contrary to popular belief, the RIAA isn't in it for the money. They just want what's fair for everyone.
                                        MyCE Resident
                                        Posted on: 07 Aug 10 00:59
                                          Originally Posted by Grim107
                                          Contrary to popular belief, the RIAA isn't in it for the money. They just want what's fair for everyone.
                                          Man, another MPAA/RIAA propaganda messenger again.... well they ever stop...cause they aren't winning any battle soon...espically p2p just keeps on growing and growing....their own model of sue sue hasn't stop p2p from expanding and more coming online everyday...that should tell you the extend of their greed in the MPAA/RIAA mindset...

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