01 May 12 20:06 by Seán Byrne in category
Blu-ray writers & players
Pioneer, a company well known for optical drives since the first DVD writers, has launched its latest and most powerful internal Blu-ray writer, the BDR-2207. This writer includes read and write support for the latest BDXL disc formats, including triple-layer DB-R and BD-RE 100GB media and quad-layer BD-R 128GB media.
The writer also features QuickStart for up to 42% quicker time between inserting the disc and it being ready for use. When it comes to disc defects such as scratches and fingerprints, its PowerRead feature skips over unreadable areas (e.g. scratches) to minimise playback interruption and its PureRead2 feature reduces clicking/popping sounds when playing CDs using its unique algorithm.
One common issue when writing discs such as when using an under-powered PSU is where the drive does not receive enough power during a write operation, potentially resulting in a coaster. To prevent this, this writer has a Peak Power Reducer feature which monitors the drive’s input power and can reduce the peak power to prevent a write failure.
Its write speeds include up to 12x BD-R DL, 6x BD-R TL/QL (3 & 4 layer), 2x BD-RE SL/DL/TL, 16x DVD±R, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 5x DVD-RAM, 40x CD-R and 24x CD-RW. It can read at up to 10x BD-ROM SL, 8x BD-ROM DL, 16x DVD-ROM SL, 12x DVD-ROM DL and 40x CD-ROM. It has a 4MB buffer and the drive can be mounted in a vertical or horizontal position, although 8cm discs cannot be used when mounted vertically.
The Pioneer BDR-2207 has a suggested retail price of $99.99 and is expected to be available early May. The drive comes bundled with CyberLink PowerDVD 10 BD3D, PowerDirector 9 and Power2Go 7. A 3D display is required for 3D Blu-ray playback.
29 Comments on Pioneer launches BDR-2207 BDXL Quad-layer Blu-ray writer
Ooh now that sounds interesting!
I'd been waiting for the BDR-207 which has just recently appeared in the UK but I'll have to check this one out now too.
Wombler
I'd been waiting for the BDR-207 which has just recently appeared in the UK but I'll have to check this one out now too.
Wombler
It's very considerate of these electronics companies to make it possible for us to lose more and more data with a single scratch. Awesome! Why they didn't put these disks in protective cases (something on the lines of the old floppy disks) when Blu-ray first came out is beyond me. Sure they would be slightly more bulky, but who cares? You wouldn't have to worry so much about losing your data to a scratch.
That's actually good point, especially for recordable discs. As for the bulkiness, they wouldn't take up any more space than a regular disc in a jewel case. I remember using a DVD-RAM enclosed in a cartridge back around 2002, so it's not like that the disc cannot operate inside an enclosure. That LaCie DVD writer at the time could accept both bare and cartridge based discs. As both sides of the disc would be protected, they could even be made double-sided.
As for the BD-R/RE XL, the only BD-RE XL disc I could find was a Panasonic BD-RE Triple-layer 100GB on eBay UK, priced at £79.
For a mere £1 extra, I can get a 128GB Lexar USB stick on Amazon, which is not affected by scratches, fingerprints, warping, being left in the sun, etc., has 28GB of extra capacity and doesn't not require an optical drive. As for size difference, try placing the BD-RE XL in a jeans pocket.
As for the BD-R/RE XL, the only BD-RE XL disc I could find was a Panasonic BD-RE Triple-layer 100GB on eBay UK, priced at £79.
For a mere £1 extra, I can get a 128GB Lexar USB stick on Amazon, which is not affected by scratches, fingerprints, warping, being left in the sun, etc., has 28GB of extra capacity and doesn't not require an optical drive. As for size difference, try placing the BD-RE XL in a jeans pocket.
So now you get to wait for 3-4 hours to find out you burned a coaster. Whoopee.
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As for the BD-R/RE XL, the only BD-RE XL disc I could find was a Panasonic BD-RE Triple-layer 100GB on eBay UK, priced at £79.
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I think I'd better forget about triple and quad layer media for the moment.
Wombler
That reminds me of the days when we would pay $100 bucks for a 1Gb WORM cartridge.
BD-R XL (write-once) is a little cheaper on Amazon, at £62 for a 100GB disc.
I had no luck finding any quad-layer BD-R media, but based on seeing the price of this triple-layer disc, I sure do wonder who would want to fork out on such expensive media.
After seeing how little BD-R DL media has come down in price in the ~6 years it has been on the market, I think the BD-R XL format is going to be little more than a collector's item. Even fitting 100GB or 128GB on a 12cm disc appears nothing special, especially if placed next to a 128GB SD card.
I had no luck finding any quad-layer BD-R media, but based on seeing the price of this triple-layer disc, I sure do wonder who would want to fork out on such expensive media.
After seeing how little BD-R DL media has come down in price in the ~6 years it has been on the market, I think the BD-R XL format is going to be little more than a collector's item. Even fitting 100GB or 128GB on a 12cm disc appears nothing special, especially if placed next to a 128GB SD card.
It's about time that it comes out....and its for the NA market only.
Lovely but useless.
Double layer disks are nearly impossible to find courtesy of the various Recording Associations and their leagal cronies. Tripple and quad layer, in your dreams.
As for cost, dual layer disks can be found from between $10 to $30 each which would put the cost of a quad layer disk at somewhere between $50 to $100 and probably readable only on the unit that burned it.
Double layer disks are nearly impossible to find courtesy of the various Recording Associations and their leagal cronies. Tripple and quad layer, in your dreams.
As for cost, dual layer disks can be found from between $10 to $30 each which would put the cost of a quad layer disk at somewhere between $50 to $100 and probably readable only on the unit that burned it.
This will be something of a novelty until they can get the quality control of media to something better than bd-r is today. The killer application will be data backup and not necessarily video b/c 50gb discs are plenty for that now and the industry standard. BDXL is not an industry standard and it's video discs w/ triple player are not forwards compatible to ordinary blu ray players! So, untill mass evolution comes to blu ray players and the quality/data integrity of the media lasts longer this will be an expensive niche optical solution which borders on experimental.
*Besides, remember the losers in the format war? HD-DVD.. they've already come up with a 4-10 layer solution going from 250gb to almost 1tb. Get ready for another format war, lol.
*Besides, remember the losers in the format war? HD-DVD.. they've already come up with a 4-10 layer solution going from 250gb to almost 1tb. Get ready for another format war, lol.
The first HD player I bought was a Toshiba A2 when the prices got stupid. I have a ton of HD DVD disks too and a LG GGW H20L just so I could do anything HD format related down the road. The nice thing about HD DVD was the format was final standard from the start, the player were a bit cheaper, and so were the disks with about the same quality, They should have swallowed their pride and combined the formats like they started to do rather then fight to the bloody end and end up with a format that cost more to make and still isn't final.
I agree about disk qaulity and price too. I think I've maybe burned about 5 HD disks with the LG, just figured I'd get it before they were gone and worry about using it when prices went down on blanks.
So your saying somebody is STILL working with HD-DVD and has 10 layers blanks now, or just that BD can do that now as both were working to multi layer disks before it stopped and BD won.
I agree about disk qaulity and price too. I think I've maybe burned about 5 HD disks with the LG, just figured I'd get it before they were gone and worry about using it when prices went down on blanks.
So your saying somebody is STILL working with HD-DVD and has 10 layers blanks now, or just that BD can do that now as both were working to multi layer disks before it stopped and BD won.
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Lovely but useless.
Double layer disks are nearly impossible to find courtesy of the various Recording Associations and their leagal cronies. Tripple and quad layer, in your dreams. As for cost, dual layer disks can be found from between $10 to $30 each which would put the cost of a quad layer disk at somewhere between $50 to $100 and probably readable only on the unit that burned it. |
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Originally Posted by FreqNasty_RiseS
Which country you in? I just bought 10 dual layer Verbatim BD-R for $35 inc. shipping from Japan to Australia. They're rated at 4x but can burn at 10x. At $3.50 for 50GB I consider that pretty good value. The same store has 100GB triple layer BD-R for $65 and the rewritable triple layer discs for $123. You just wouldn't bother when 2 50GB discs cost $7. I remember a CD-R being $50 in the early 90's.
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I can only underline what "FreqNasty_RiseS" already posted.
You can self-import all that stuff kinda cheap and if you don't get greedy then the customs will also play quiet.
I did so with all my BD-R SL, DL and TL discs.
You can self-import all that stuff kinda cheap and if you don't get greedy then the customs will also play quiet.
I did so with all my BD-R SL, DL and TL discs.
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Originally Posted by _chef_
I can only underline what "FreqNasty_RiseS" already posted.
You can self-import all that stuff kinda cheap and if you don't get greedy then the customs will also play quiet. I did so with all my BD-R SL, DL and TL discs. |
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Originally Posted by FreqNasty_RiseS
Which country you in? I just bought 10 dual layer Verbatim BD-R for $35 inc. shipping from Japan to Australia. They're rated at 4x but can burn at 10x. At $3.50 for 50GB I consider that pretty good value. The same store has 100GB triple layer BD-R for $65 and the rewritable triple layer discs for $123. You just wouldn't bother when 2 50GB discs cost $7. I remember a CD-R being $50 in the early 90's.
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Originally Posted by debro
Linky?
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On the off chance that you haven't found them yourself
, and for any interested in US$60.00 BDRXL TL's, here's the link.Remarkably, that same seller is among those that are trying to get people to pay $10.00+ each for the new Taiyo Yuden BD-R DL's that I've been buying for US$4.00 each for the last 3 months
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Originally Posted by pepst
Have you already burned any TL or even QL BD-R media?
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@dean, that Pana TL BD-R looks a bit expensive to me, at least here you have to add VAT.
Strange, I guess for pioneer it is great. Us consumers would be way better of if the quality of media was better and burners had higher quality.
AT LAST!!! I guess NOW is the time for me to invest in a BD-RE drive !
The drive prices here are a bit too crazy, almost double or triple the prices of whatever you'll find online, I guess I'll import one of these beauties and maybe get some discs shipped with it as well... But I'll be waiting for a review first... Now I watch and wait
!The drive prices here are a bit too crazy, almost double or triple the prices of whatever you'll find online, I guess I'll import one of these beauties and maybe get some discs shipped with it as well... But I'll be waiting for a review first... Now I watch and wait
Importing from .CN?
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Importing from .CN?
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Is this drive similar to the Pioneer XD04?
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Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider
Is this drive similar to the Pioneer XD04?
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Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider
Is this drive similar to the Pioneer XD04?
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How does it compare with the new LG BH14NS40?
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Originally Posted by headquarter84
If you mean Canada then I guess not, more likely from China
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cn
Also I agree with cvs, comparing a slimtype drive with a HH one is not good.
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Yeah, fully agree.
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