Some want set-top box killed

04 Sep 09 00:24 by Jared Newman in category LCD TV, Online Video

Verizon is the latest company to join a movement that wants the television set-top box eliminated.

The RVU Alliance is a non-profit group comprised of DirectTV, BroadCom, Samsung, Cisco and now Verizon. In a rapidly-changing media environment, you’d expect this kind of collaboration to be sinister, but it’s actually a pretty cool initiative.

RVU wants all set-top boxes replaced with one single server that feeds content to all home televisions, PCs and media players. Doing so would allow movies, music and television to be shared across any device in the home, with one common interface. It would even allow users to start watching a show on one television and then resume playback on another. For consumers, this also means less clutter in the entertainment center.

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The group, which formed in early August, wants to create standards that make this interconnectivity possible. While Broadcom’s and Cisco’s support, as providers of network solutions, is obvious, the inclusion of content service providers such as Verizon and DirectTV is crucial. (There is, of course, the ulterior motive of taking business away from TiVo and other third-party boxes, but the end results looks positive to me.)

My only concern is how these integrated units will play with online content, such as streaming video from Hulu and Netflix. If this initiative is just a way to keep more people hooked up to cable, it’s less attractive than a device that can pass all kinds of media around the house. I’d like to see the same support for Internet widgets that you currently get from a TiVo box.

Even then, RVA will likely face some strong opposition. For starters, a device that easily sends TV content to PCs and other devices seems to directly compete with TV Everywhere, an initiative by Time Warner and Comcast to stream subscription cable on computers. I can’t imagine that cable companies will abandon TV Everywhere just because a better idea has come along.

Then, there are the content providers — Hollywood studios and TV networks, specifically. So far, they’ve fought tooth-and-nail to control how consumers can watch movies and television. If RVA devices do include ways to watch Hulu and other Internet content, this push for a standardized media server could turn into a big mess.

8 Comments on Some want set-top box killed

shaolin007
Posts: 883
Posted on: 04 Sep 09 00:37
These big corps wouldn't be backing it unless there was some kick back somewhere in the line. It is all about the dough, bottom line.
RTV71
Posts: 221
Posted on: 04 Sep 09 03:41
More DRM is assumed, of course.
AllanDeGroot
Posts: 1442
Posted on: 04 Sep 09 06:56
A Collaborative monopoly is still a monolopy

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DrageMester
Posts: 19888
Posted on: 04 Sep 09 10:04
I'm afraid I'm as skeptical as others who posted before me; this is most likely an attempt to get full control over media distribution in people's homes.

This then makes it possible to force-feed people advertisements they don't want, and remove saved content after a while to prevent people from saving it "forever", in the hope people will then buy it on DRM-ray or as download instead, and prevent certain shows/movies from being saved at all (broadcast flag).
Dartman
Posts: 1776
Posted on: 04 Sep 09 20:51
Well if it's some type of standard that gets built into TV's and DVD recorders it might be OK. If I still have to rent the POS and pay them a monthly fee for it then I'm not interested.
Comcast just got a waiver allowing them to give out "free" DTA boxes so they can then eventually scramble ALL of their channels above analog 31 becuase the boxes can decode the new system but only output SD on channel 3 RF so no HD at all but anyone can use them on any TV satisfying the must carry and be able to watch rules for some channels.
That means people who now don't rent a box but use QAM tuner equipped devices to get the clear QAM SD and HD channels will no longer be able to do so soon if they enable the scrambling.
So why would they want to do this new idea when they are trying to force people to use a box now, knowing that most will get frustrated by the lack of any HD content and upgrade to a HD box and service, thus making them even more money and forcing us to use their gear to do anything...
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I have not rented any of their gear in 20 years, I don't want to pay extra and I do use many QAM equipped devices to pick up and record the in the clear SD and HD things they pipe in.
I might keep them if the new thing is able to be used and bought by customers and freely used, I will not if it's just yet another box you rent and pay extra for.
I have thousands of dollars worth of gear I paid for that may be useless soon, being able to get new gear that does the same might help
Zod
Posts: 724
Posted on: 05 Sep 09 02:21
I don't like the idea of everything being recorded and store at the cable providers end. I'm all for ending set top boxes. They've annoyed me every since cable went digital. Why not make an industry standard and build digital/hd tuners into tvs (I realize tv's already have digital tuners, but they don't support encryption so cable companies can't tier their packages). Cable boxes take up too much room on the tv unit.
tmc8080
Posts: 966
Posted on: 09 Sep 09 13:24
This all comes on the heels of Dish Network having a judgement placed against them for $200 million for patent violations (royalties) of the TIVO set-top box. I'm not impressed with this idea... in times past, the cable industry balked at the idea of having ONE standard interface for cable-tv subscription services (aka cable-card 2.x) and basically killed off the idea that would all-but eliminate the set-top rental market. Multimedia computers have DVI outputs.. and that is the way video gets from a digital server to the "TV". I don't see any reason why the cable industry should be allowed rent out these set-tops anymore.. for this reason, we bittorrent, download and distribute media as we see fit. The cable-tv subscription model is deteriorating in value. There are too many competing interests for the cable industry to get this right and their greed will always win out over doing right by the consumer.. so this is a vaporware idea that will never see the light of day in mass production.
slytrans69
Posts: 816
Posted on: 07 Oct 09 19:37
TV's already have a built in digital cable QAM tuner. Why not include the capability of allowing them to go up to channel 999 instead of 135 so that premium channels can be accessed? Also allow a satellite tuner to be included to replace the defunct NTSC tiuner. Using the TV as a set top box would be easier and cheaper than a separate set top box they now use.
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