US Gov spending millions to teach foreign judges about copyright

I just love it that the Dept of Homeland Security, which was created to protect people and property in the US against terrorism, is now engaged in copyright infringement cases.. must not be a whole lot to do.. I have a BIG problem with my government spending my and everyone else's tax dollars in these endeavors. Just another example of our government being bought and sold by the corporate sector.

So basically they are investing money into educating people to have other people gaining even more money. This smells lobbying all over it.

So anyway ... on a rare occasion, you happen to download *that stupid army/explosive defusing movie that sucked, and I no-one can remember the name of* and suddenly it turns out that you're lumped into the same category as a company that clones medicines, and is possibly killing people with it's products.

Damn!

Downloading movies means you're killing people.....

I wonder where they're getting the money from. Those printing presses must be running full time. I also wonder where they buy ink from. Kind of presumptuous to be teaching other judges, they are practicing law, they haven't gotten it right yet.

I have a very close friend that trains agents in anti-terrorist technique. He feels that politicians, at the behest of corporations, are perverting the intent of Homeland Security. The overall agency is pretty awesome, but the corporate-government manipulation is one of the real problems facing the U.S., on many levels, like why isn't Halliburton in the oil spill case against BP? Why does Halliburton still exist after all the devious crap they have pulled? Just an opinion, I could be wrong.

Disgraceful U$A

Name change to OCP next year. Anyone remember OCP, The company that ran Detroit ??
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We do need Homeland Security & I don't have a problem with that.
The power given it & the rest of the Federal US government by the so called Patriot Act ; I do have a problem with.
Any US law made that isn't in the guidelines of the Constitution should be quickly struck down by the US Supreme Court.
Spending US citizens money after all taxes are our money not the governments .Overall the government doesn't earn money .The fees (taxes ) they charge are for doing jobs they are already paid for with taxes. So spending tax money to educate a foreign government should be unConstitutional.
Listen to Glen Beck on Fox News sometime if you can.
There is a move to put the US Court system under International law.It can go by the Constitution as long as it doesn't conflict with international law.The death penalty is the first of US laws that would go. WE THE PEOPLE (first words of the Constitution & large there too) need to stop this.
The problem is the US has traded in Freedom for safety & security .Which really hasn't worked. The founding fathers & the patriots that fought & some gave their lives for this freedom would be ashamed of us currant citizens.
I have proposed this & usually it is argued with.
Since the USA is the most indebted nation in the world doesn't that make us the poorest nation ?
My solution would be just to wipe all this debt off the books & tell the rest of the world. If you don't like it don't trade with us any more. I would at the same time make all old US currency void & only issue new to US citizens in the USA. No old currency would be allowed to be brought back in from foreign countries. We would have US military search all cargo coming in. We would have plenty of soldiers to do this since I'm sure most countries would ask the US military to leave.
Off the soap box.

Depends on assets. I trust the Government has been spending the money wisely, and has plenty of assets to sell off to show for it ... right?
Great Plan Mr Mugabe! I'm guessing that Fidel Castro is your financial advisor

I understand that Haiti & Zimbabwe are the 2 most influential financial powerhouses on the planet
What could possibly go wrong ... police states are wonderful places to live .. just ask the Hungarians & Slovakians

... because they don't pay their bills, and the our plates are getting worn down by the number of US soldiers paying for their meals by cleaning dishes.

The last thing I want to do is listen to that douche-bag..

they spend a lot me in other countries to stop drugs from coming here and it does very little. They could take half of that money to increase the number here in the USA to stop it from coming in and do much more good and we would have a least another 200,000 jobs.

Then you don't like to hear the truth . Or site me some examples where Glen Beck has been proved to be lying.


Using soldiers we are already paying would be better for doing the searching for drugs.
Stopping drugs is really just a show put on by the government. They allow the drugs in to support the foreign countries that produce them.
How else would tons per day get across the borders ?
It is comming in by the semitruck full & shipping containers full.
Think about the busts you here about & how many of those with the amount of drugs they find to supply the US for even one day.

How can I put this ... the US border is very large

All that is required to illegally migrate from Mexico to the USA is patience, stamina and a good pair of walking shoes

It also helps if you can respawn, because i've seen lots of soldiers with weapons around that border.

A countries wealth is measure by the capabilities of it's people. Unfortunately, with the elitist dullards running ours, the potential is untapped. America has vast untapped minerals, oil, uranium, and many other kinds of -iums, food growth potential, and vast areas of land untouched with God knows what underneath it.

As soon as this country starts to treat Mexico like we treat Canada (well maybe not, as most Americans always forget it is there) well, in some manner other than a pariah state, a lot of good could come from it. The influence of the Mexican people's in this country is and has been for centuries, positive. They are essential to this country, as are the Canadians. The North American part of the world count be one of the most (it is already) influences in this world, if the racism was tossed aside, on all sides.

I don't think the Mugabe approach is a good idea either, but China knows that a war against would leave a big dent in their wallet (as we would kiss the debt behind and demand reparations for destroying their country), and it will be a very very long time before China can project it's power, if ever, the way the United States can. We have individuals in Arizona running a more effective space program than the Chinese governments and better future spaceships which will come to fruition within a year or two than most governments in the world. The world financial crisis exist because all the people with money are scared to spend it. It isn't like it all just disappeared. Americas economy is bouncing back anyways. America's mothballed navy is better equipped than most of the worlds, as is it's mothballed air force in Arizona. The soldiers speak for themselves.

Glenn Beck should be used for kindling. Him and Sarah Palin would make a great bonfire with the wooden brains and greasy personalities.

Calling Glenn Beck a douche bag is not fair to that useful product. Calling anyone a "Glenn Beck" is an insult unto itself.

Fox News serves once purpose, to see how the right wingnuts of this country's brains are churning. Most of the News here serves only once purpose, to get ratings.

As far as the U.S pulling out of the rest of the world, that would be O.K. by me but I fear the radiation cloud from the ensuing world war would drift right over USA. The last World Wars were not started by us, though they were finished by us (and some other free loving counties, i.e. England, Australia, Canada, to name a few, and Russia, of course, who's contribution is always under appreciated, though what happened after in Russia and the East of Europe is nothing they are even proud of). China was a huge victim of WW2 and China has a long memory. Once North Korea is settled, I believe (if they don't invade Taiwan) much pressure could ease in that part of the world. Though, eventually, that part of the world will inflame due to the huge population and lack of resources. I am probably wrong though. I hope I am.

I see little if any comparison between anything I posted & Mugabe .

We the People of the USA have wealth but the government doesn't .
We actually own everything even what the government calls theirs' .

As for Mexicans & my definition of them is citizens of Mexico.
If the immigrate to the USA legally & become citizens of the USA they
become Americans. The same can be applied to citizens of any other country
that does the same. I would stop all immigration because I believe the USA is full
& we no longer need citizens not born here. At least till we see unemployment go into negative numbers . I don't see that happening anytime soon.
One of my pet peeves is the Hyphenated-American. When any citizen of the USA puts another country or continent in front of American they have divided themselves from America. They become a Divided-American showing their first loyalty is to another country.
To make an example of this: the majority black citizens in the USA have decided to be called African-Americans.
If I went to South Africa would I refer to its' black citizens as African-American or African-South African . I think they would laugh at either. As a further example : If a "white" person immigrates to the USA from South Africa is he to be called an African-American.
Not to just use black people as an example how many times have you heard the term Mexican-Canadian , German-Chinese , Italian-Australian ,etc.
So to those that immigrate to the USA legally become American with no other country to which you still have loyalty. If you still have loyalty to another country move there & make it better. Work to make it a country that has what you immigrated to the USA for. Don't move to the USA to make it into the country you found so bad you moved to the USA.

I don't consider myself as right wing as Glen Beck but I wouldn't consider being compared to him an insult. I still haven't seen him proved to be lying.

This is what I predict will actually happen & is more back on topic:
The USA & the rest of the world will come more & more under international law .
Eventually becoming a one world government. Most of the people of Earth under that government will be treated like the third world people are now. With an "elite" class ruling & deciding what's best for the rest of us. They will claim to have brought peace on Earth.
I'm old enough to probably not see the completion of this. I already am seeing the start & things can move very fast. So maybe. Then the Apocalypse will come .

Glenn Beck is insane. He using vapo rub to make himself cry. He is a huckster. He tried to tie in some fresco's made of concrete in New York city that were about 40 years old to Obama and some weird Mason conspiracy. Maybe in his defense one can say he does not believe he is lying. Then most insane people don't believe they are lying. Schizophrenics really see people who aren't there and they hear voices too.

Unfortunately, there is no medication for what Glenn Beck suffers from. He is a liar, a deceiver, and an example of the worst that the United States has to offer.

I am happy him and Sarah Palin have gotten together, it will be easier to round them up when the insane asylum comes calling for them both. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

It took me some time to find a video of the Glenn Beck show That covers what you posted.
It has been posted several times on YouTube but seems to get removed .So hopefully it will be good until you view it.

Beck never says Obama on this video .
In the only reference to the President he says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWL-p...eature=related

Not to be labeled a complete Beck supporter there is something I don't like about him but I won't discuss that. It would quickly get this topic closed.

Glenn Becks technique is innuendo. He makes accusations then wraps it with with disclaimers. His technique is old and only the really old uninformed fall for it or the really young who have never heard Goebbels (speaking a little German helps) propaganda machine. Beck would be well dressed as a Nazi. Don't waste you time researching anything Beck. Please, don't waste one brain cell on him. I have a well though out opinion of him that could not be changed and i think that excessive exposure to him could lead to Brain cancer, or some other ailment.

Why ain't they spending millions teaching American kids to read?

My son will be 11 this month. He is in 4th grade. He reads at a 9th grade level and does Math at a 9th grade level. He plays violin (as I do) and reads around 4 books a week, not counting school work. He has a straight average and they want to skip him a few grades but I will not allow it as I wish him to stay with kids his own age. His is the norm for most of my family and my in-laws children. My niece has a .Phd from Berkley from my side of the family) and there are many college graduates in my family on both sides, and actually not a few .Phd's. I did not finish college myself. I am a state licensed electronic technician and a fully rated machinist and tool and dye maker, again certified by the state. I also read and write Spanish fluently and can make my way through a German book with a dictionary. I also fly small aircraft though I may have to give it up for medical reasons.

America is a big country. Just like any other country, there are some areas that under perform others. It is quite normal in the U.S for people to have multiple careers, unlike European countries where people tend to stay in their field for longer periods, that may have changed, don't know. I live in Connecticut and cannot speak for the other 49 states, but I imagine there are high and lows in all of them, like any other place in the world. In Connecticut, by the time my son hits high school, credits from his advanced courses will be credited towards his college education as there are changes coming in the education system in this state.

I enjoyed the "Why ain't they spending millions of kids how to read?

They are . A lot of kids just don't try to learn.
I put some of the blame on teachers too. Teacher & politician some of the very few jobs where you can perform badly & ask for a raise.
I don't know where all the money goes but just my local school taxes amount to $1000.00 this year counting what they take for the community college. I don't even have kids so I'm sure paying more than my share.

Maybe how about taking a good look at the parents...and all the console and computer games they play and ask how are you setting a example to read/write. Teachers should not have to babysit they are there to teach it's up to the parents to teach their kids moral values and to learn from better examples that the parents themselves should present better. I get tired when all these peoples blame teacher but forget to point the finger right back to themselves. Sounds like the parents are refusing to take even the slightest Parental lack of responsibilities of raising their kids with moral values. How about let's address all this lack of Parental education and educate the parents in 101 learning to raise and educate your kids and let the teach do the teaching skills to learn to use in furthering their education.

I have to agree about the parent part. There are kids in my son's class who are blithering idiots. It is not their fault. How can it be at that age. I check my sons homework every night and make sure he understands the subject matter. I do not do his homework for him, I check it after he is done. He is limited to 45 mins a day during the week on the computer unless he is researching something that really interests him. This is provided that all his work and chores (which are few) are done. He is a straight A student. Of course, now that I have purchased him a 70 c.c. mini bike for Christmas (gas powered of course), he will be more grounded in the real world.

I'm not going to disagree with you coolcolors but since I don't have children it doesn't apply to me.
Of course parents can make a huge difference both in ability & moral values.
That makes it much easier for the teacher.
Both the education administration & law enforcement don;t see that an acceptable learning environment is maintained in some large cities. Shame on them.
A teacher can't teach if the students are allowed to be out of control.
In my area I haven't heard that this is a problem.
My objection is I didn't have children & it's not my responsibility to pay for their education. Or any other expense related to them. The parents made the decision to have children & the sole expense of raising their children should be on them.
Let me translate that back into education. In my state the estimated cost of sending a child to public school is $8000.00 per year. This is what the parents would pay when their children enrolled each year for each child. If they couldn't then they would be billed & charged interest . This bill would follow them if they moved to another state. No bankruptcy or statute of limitation would apply to it. Garnishment of any wages would be applied. The child would also be held responsible once they became 18. There would be the option of private school or home schooling .These would exempt them from the public education tax. Since home schooling requires some involvement from public schools systems to verify children are maintaining a certain level there would be some tax applied to parents home schooling to pay this cost.
That way people witout children in public school would pay nothing.

Zathros teacher are a easy target to go after the real problem lies at the parents foot but they are to busy stumbling over each other to blame someone else for their lacking parental skills so they blame others. That is a sad fact in this current so called democracy aka Republic there is nothing to my knowledge in the constitution saying anything democracy. Well I think that should put this part to mute so I go back to the spending money to other nations we we could use that to teach our kids and ask our government what the )*(*)*& are you doing with our money that should help those who need it. Those CEO could give a F)(&*(& less make those CEO spend their money teaching other nation judge and let's see how far they spend their money. Then we will know how much a F()&*(& they give...

I also agree with you again coolcolors let the MPAA & RIAA pay for foreign judges being educated. Any others that want copyright protected included but I used the main two lobbying Congress & the President to get this done on the tax payers millions.

Well Cholla I won't try to go to far. But first and foremost education comes from the Parents before the kids even start to go to school. That is a Fact they already started learning behavior and morals from home and take that to school. So their learning already started at home not School as people would like to paint a rosy picture learning begins at school could be farther from the point...I grew up in the 80's and got my share of punishment not abuse but I did get my share and heck I grew up fine and got my morals in the right...I did cause my share of problems but looking back at what I did to those nowdays kids they have no brains or lack of common sense to even start with. Kids nowdays should get a knock on the head or whack in the ass to teach them some good common sense but the law is all screwed up here as well and now we got all these juvenile detention that does nothing but create more problems. Maybe we should send those kids to 3rd world and make them learn some common sense and lesson that will shake that fat that they call their brain some common sense. But sadly that is dying view that was lost from the 80's that taught lessons that are now missed..

Yeah I wish that was true but the lobbyist got their greedy hands on the newly elected politicians and they just continue the same old business as usual again...that how sad the US is in the state now...

They will claim tea party but I see no real tea party just same old pack your party friends in return....lobbyist

I was a child in the 60's & raised in Texas to Texas born parents . So discipline was handed out for bad behavior . At home or at school.
The only thing I didn't like about school discipline is I have seen it handed out unfairly. Some kids got swats for what others were allowed to do. Ergo teachers' pets & sports players.
I will say my parents didn't teach me much reading or writing before I entered first grade.
This left me behind children that had been taught but I wasn't alone. Many parents at that time had the philosophy let kids be kids until first grade. That didn't mean I didn't get a spanking before then.
My brother wasn't learning to read even by second grade. My mom got a book on Phonics & taught him in about six weeks. So much for teachers ability. Their diagnosis was he needed glasses. That was the only year he wore glasses as he really didn't need them. The optomitrist said he had minor astigmatism. An exam the next year with a different optomitrist found no need for glasses.
I wish I had learned to read with Phonics as my brother reads much faster that I do.

Thought I would add one thing to show you how much things have changed. When I started High School in 1967 boys were required to have a tapered haircut to be enrolled. For those that don't know what that means : Very short on the sides & back & not very long on top. Girls were required to wear dresses except on very cold days.

That's the sad part..parent should also be teacher as well cause all the learning begins at home...they should take responsibility for being called parents with small "p".

My parents did step up & help educate us more at home after they saw it was a problem. They always tried to teach moral values even before first grade.
They just did like many other parents did at the time. It was how they were raised.
So they had to learn this themselves.

I wasn't going after my teachers (son's teachers) at all. I said in his same class there are blithering idiots, because the parents do not help educate their own children. The school system in my town ranks in the 96th percentile for CMT's. Our town's blithering idiots would be considered genius in other towns. The parents still need to put more in. It doesn't take a town or city, it begins at home. Please read the posts carefully. We obviously are in agreement. You might want to re-read your statements before you post. I suffer from fat fingers but try to edit out syntax errors so at least it is intelligible.

There are several types of caretakers/parents:

There are a people who are plenty of self-centered, that they will not care about their offspring, only taking care of them because they must (otherwise they would go to jail for neglecting them, which is usually a heavy offense). Psychological nightmare. Sometimes the kid have a good life, but it was never because of its parents. These kids who have a good life usually fought hard for it and know the value of life pretty good.

There are also people that would love to take care of their kids and cannot. The kids that do get to have a good life know their value of life incredibly well. The caretakers usually have sacrificied everything they could to make sure their kids at least have a chance.

And then there are the people that can take care of their kids, but only do it via money or other people. Couldn't care less as long as their kids just shut up.

I believe it lies in the passion you have for them and the respect they show.

My daughter is just two years old now and already i learn her how to say please and say thank you in respectful manners. Treat others how you want others to treat you. That kind of stuff. Most of the times i consider my daughter my equal, not "my uneducated small child" and that works wonderful.

She knows i'd do anything for her, but also that she's got major trouble if she tries to abuse that.

Regarding education: Let's just say i did not have the best of times of my life at schools. I got picked on a lot and had a lot of teachers that never cared for anything. This went on for a lot of years. Nobody helped me or told me what was wrong (if there actually was something wrong. I guess they just picked on me because i came from another area). It kinda forms you in a certain way that you don't care about other people a lot. I haven't seen it improving over the last 25 years, more the other way around.

Basically i do not have any faith in the normal educational system. I will teach my daughter how to defend herself, both physically and mentally. I will tell her no matter what happens she can talk about it with me. And i will try to hear every side of a story/argument before deciding what to do.

I know I wasn't trying to make it sounds like that but if it the read came like that I guess I was going to fast in my response and no there are good teachers we just don't celebrate or reward those teachers that is the sad part about our US education system...But I do get so much news where there is problem at school the parents always want to point finger at teachers...and not taking a good look at themselves as parents and ask what did they not do to show their kids good moral character behavior...rather then expect some one else to raise their kids when there teachers are there to teach the kids educational skills and not be the parents for the kids..that is the responsibility of the real parents-I never hear parents say that. They always make those noise but in the end those parents don't do squat...while the rest have to take the burden of their lack of being real parents to their kids...

...heck I am in the same boat as you can't say I didn't had it much better in schools either...I think it has gotten alot worse...like the apple going bad now has worms...and the can of worms are now getting out and we now have all these problems...that require... and then they tells us they don't have enough money in the budget maybe if the admin and higher ups get off their fat ass and really did some head knocking they would get some real results for those kids whom want to learn and teachers who wants to teach not those just looking for a fat paycheck and could give a F(&& about the kids future...There nowdays so many test all the kids studies for are test not to even learn anything like in my past schools days we actually did learn the materials not just study for test....But heck if they actually gave all those millions they give to those judges maybe we can actually see some improvements in our schools don't all you think that too????

I guess I was fortunate other kids didn't pick on me much . I didn't start fights but I would hold my own whether the person was bigger or not. They knew they would suffer some damage even if they won. Back then not too much was done to kids getting in a schoolyard fight unless there were serious injuries. Maybe swats or detentions but not suspension or expelling. Now even a kid defending themselves gets in major trouble.
However if it's a teacher defending themselves it seems that's OK. Kind of a double standard.
Fortunately for me I had more good teachers than bad ones but there were bad ones even then.

Once someone invited me to a school reunion. I told him i would not to go because i hated most of them. He was schocked and excused himself with "But we were just kids!". Like that is an exuse to pick on me. I replied i still hated them and probably every time they pop in my memory i will hate them.

It's not that they don't have the money. Money has never been an issue, as long as all people put in some effort. There is plenty of resources on this planet to cure and feed everybody. They just do not care. Most of the people around do not care at all if it does not affect them personally. Most of the people do not have the time to care. They just cannot and will not care. Sometimes they want to care, but feel powerless. Trapped inside their rules and systems.

Nobody cares about the environment, until their own back yard is polluted.
Nobody cares about the education of kids, until their own kid is labeled a retard.
Nobody cares about others, until someone close gets beaten or killed.
In real time, nobody cares until it is too late.
If there is no money to be made, people don't usually care.

Especially the system. The system does not care a single shit who or what you respresent in society. Since the system and the society do not have single managers, there is no one to blame. Even a company is not "a person" so nobody can get punished for doing wrong. I don't mind it, it doesn't have to care. How can it? It's a system! Just don't think it will start caring.

Took me a while to realize that, but i stopped caring about the system. I try and care about the humans inside the society and the system, especially those close to me, but the system itself can screw itself up. I will not fight for society, i will not care about politics, i will not care abount companies, i do not have a single shred of empathy for religions. I will not go to war for my or any other country. I'll abide to its laws and its habits. I will tolerate. If i cannot tolerate anymore, i will go away from it. I will care about people.

The teachers and people that do care; They should be rewarded gigantically! You should totally adore, admire and respect anybody that has stood up for your kid or takes effort to learn your kid the education it needs. These people are rare. Keep them very close and help them.

Looks like the US. Govt. has become the mother of all lobby enforcers, the worst and most disgusting of all. They threat all of us US and overseas taxpayers and then come with that flattened talking about freedom, moral and opportunity???
F*'em, they're no past from whores for the entertainment industry.

You might not be wrong, after all.

I'm just waiting for the next Wikileaks "cable" news.

You're watching too much of [COUGH COUGH] Fox, pal.

Don't let it drive you a blunt, ignorant yokel tring to buy off other's guilt by convincing yourself that WHOLE COUNTRIES are devoted to produce drugs only to make "innocent" US and European young citizens 'happy' in a deviant way.

It's still time for you to discover more about the world you're living in. Turn off Fox.
Do yourself this favor.

My neighbor has to pay extra to get the SYFY channel but gets Fox SNooze thrown in. Something is really wrong with that scenario. At least with SYFY you get a story with some truth to discern, but with Fox you just get inane commentary by idiots like Glenn Beck, Lou Dobson, Caribou Barbie (salt lick Palin) and that transvestite with the blonde hair and huge Adams apple, the real thin one, always spews hate and laughs at it's own jokes. Something just plain wrong.

The drugs being allowed in have nothing to do with making & these are your words:
It's about money plain & simple. Or don't you believe countries that allow so many drugs to be manufactured in them are aware of the drugs & how much they're worth ?
Especially when they're shipping out ships full of them.
Then they use the drug money to lobby Congress too.

If you want a conspiracy theory then here's one of mine.
The mafia sold out the American unions they once protected & killed for when necessary so they drugs would be allowed freely in. They don't care where they make the money as long as they make it.
Drugs being allowed in is just a covert form of foreign aid.
The term yokel is a bit SouthEast for me .
Try native Texas Redneck . The gun toting kind. Part Native American too or Injun if you prefer.

[QUOTE=Carcinogenic;2566209]You're watching too much of [COUGH COUGH] Fox, pal.
It's still time for you to discover more about the world you're living in. Turn off Fox.
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I watch Fox because they tell the rest of the story . The rest of the network news leave out a lot. I will continue to do so.

Here are some quotes by Americans .See if you think they're too close to what you hear on Fox news. Of course if you look up who they are by you will probably answer differently. So try to rate them on their content.