“Windows 8 isn’t bad, it has weak spots” – Analyst retracts statement

25 Jul 12 18:47 by in category Software

So, one day, as a Gartner analyst you post on the blog of your employer that Windows 8 is “bad” from the perspective of a desktop user, the next day you retract this statement. That would never happen, right? You couldn’t be more wrong. In an interview with PCPro, Gunnar Berger, analyst at Gartner has stated that his previous statement which said that using a keyboard and mouse in Windows 8 was “in one word: bad” has been removed from his blog and was taken out of context.

Besides that, in the interview he stresses that it was just his view on Windows 8, written on a Gartner blog, but not official Gartner research. In the interview, Gunnar Berger also says that his overall opinion on Windows 8 is that it’s really good and a compelling product.  And when asked about using a keyboard and mouse in Windows 8, he no longer calls  it bad, but  a weak spot.  Yeah, who is using a mouse and keyboard to operate their PC anyway?

Read the entire interview here, discuss Windows 8 in our General Software forum.

17 Comments on “Windows 8 isn’t bad, it has weak spots” – Analyst retracts statement

DukeNukem
Posts: 1606
Posted on: 25 Jul 12 19:24
This guy has now lost ALL of his credibility. Period. End of story.
StormJumper
Posts: 12734
Posted on: 25 Jul 12 20:47
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Originally Posted by DukeNukem View Post
This guy has now lost ALL of his credibility. Period. End of story.
I agree, it's been said most people base their dislike on experts blogs, in this case maybe his blog was based totally on peoples comments.

That is why I always use, test and then judge for myself.

SJ
BradWright
Posts: 225
Posted on: 25 Jul 12 21:08
Maybe he read my comment yesterday, decided to take another look at Windows 8 as a result, and realized he was wrong. :-) Ya, that's it!

Good comment, StormJumper!
StormJumper
Posts: 12734
Posted on: 25 Jul 12 21:24
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Originally Posted by BradWright View Post
Maybe he read my comment yesterday, decided to take another look at Windows 8 as a result, and realized he was wrong. :-) Ya, that's it!

Good comment, StormJumper!
Thanks and your post #14 in the other thread was not bad either.

SJ
olddancer
Posts: 285
Posted on: 25 Jul 12 21:38
“Windows 8 isn’t bad, it has weak spots” – Analyst retracts statement

Weak Spots?????

The Titanic had weak spots, the Hindenburg had weak spots, the U.S. economy recently had weak spots, Windows 8 is truly Bad.
StormJumper
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Posted on: 25 Jul 12 22:06
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Originally Posted by olddancer View Post
“Windows 8 isn’t bad, it has weak spots” – Analyst retracts statement

Weak Spots?????

The Titanic had weak spots, the Hindenburg had weak spots, the U.S. economy recently had weak spots, Windows 8 is truly Bad.
It's not that Windows 8 is bad within it's self but rather Microsoft should listen to the consumers of the desktop and not force them to use just one style that was designed for and around the mobile device market.

SJ
ChristineBCW
Posts: 1298
Posted on: 26 Jul 12 12:16
Now, Mr. Ballmer... does it look better to have a Gartner "expert" pop off one minute and then appear paid-off or coerced the next?

And "weak spots" - yes. Like Mount St. Helens. Wasn't that a "weak spot"? Vesuvius, Etna...

Didn't Krakatora have a 'weak spot'? I think the Tohoku Earthquake was also considered "a weak spot', too. Just a little shutter, a little shift for the planet's insides and plates... a bit o' weak-spot there...

Yes indeed... Gartner's Experts sound soooo authoritative - as always! But for the lazy non-thinkers getting Wall Street bailouts, I guess that's par for their course.
StormJumper
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Posted on: 31 Jul 12 17:12
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Originally Posted by StormJumper View Post
It's not that Windows 8 is bad within it's self but rather Microsoft should listen to the consumers of the desktop and not force them to use just one style that was designed for and around the mobile device market.

SJ
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alan1476
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Posted on: 31 Jul 12 19:31
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Originally Posted by StormJumper View Post
They are going to support Windows 7 for years and besides, the facts are that Windows 8 is faster and more secure. There are many addons to put a Start button on it already. Half the people that complain, not you SJ, dont give the OS a chance. Its only a 14.99 upgrade, if you dont like it go back to Windows 7, geez , some people here still use XP.
coolcolors
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Posted on: 31 Jul 12 19:51
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Originally Posted by alan1476 View Post
They are going to support Windows 7 for years and besides, the facts are that Windows 8 is faster and more secure. There are many addons to put a Start button on it already. Half the people that complain, not you SJ, dont give the OS a chance. Its only a 14.99 upgrade, if you dont like it go back to Windows 7, geez , some people here still use XP.
That could be true or not we have to see what kinda virus and malware comes after W8 to see whether that is really secure as they say. We shouldn't have to make a addon start button they should've made it there and give option to show the button or not. That isn't that hard to program into the program since it has always been there. And not everyone uses a tablet or smart phone or want to use those items. Those hardware are limited in what they can do and perform at and in the end are not true computer. Oh yeah, and I never subscribe to those upgrades rather a full version is the better option to go with as you get full installation and full control with options not having to install two O/S to just get W8 O/S in my playbook is a loosing game.....
StormJumper
Posts: 12734
Posted on: 31 Jul 12 22:31
Hi Alan

Yeah!! your right I'm not complaining even though I did voice my dislikes and concerns/thoughts after testing it, I personally don't have a problem when it comes to a change in operating systems which I've been known to upgrade as soon as they become available, although it did take me a while to switch from XP to Vista but I think that was in part due to the fact that XP was such a great operating system and so easy to use and even though I myself never had a lick of problems with Vista I also upgraded to Windows 7 when it too became available.

But as for Windows 8 I really see no need or reason for me to upgrade this time not when Windows 7 is a great operating system just like XP was and still is, but heck who knows maybe I will upgrade later on but thats highly unlikely though even with a work-around, and even though Microsoft has reduced the price for the upgrade tremendously which by the way is a real shocker for them, the bandwagon for Windows 8 I'll not jump on based on the reduction in price or the new hardware that they recently developed for Windows 8.

Don't get me wrong now!! I do think Windows 8 is a good operating system but I don't think Microsoft even had the PC consumers in mind when they switched the interface in mid-stream of development just because they want to compete against Apple and Google in the tablet and the other mobile device market and they feel its necessary force the 'Metro' interface to all consumers and not just for the mobile device users.

As for for Windows 8 being more secure...hmmm...your system is only as secure as you make it no matter what operating system you use.

Tis just my opinion and .02¢
SJ
alan1476
Posts: 18348
Posted on: 01 Aug 12 01:08
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Originally Posted by StormJumper View Post
Hi Alan

Yeah!! your right I'm not complaining even though I did voice my dislikes and concerns/thoughts after testing it, I personally don't have a problem when it comes to a change in operating systems which I've been known to upgrade as soon as they become available, although it did take me a while to switch from XP to Vista but I think that was in part due to the fact that XP was such a great operating system and so easy to use and even though I myself never had a lick of problems with Vista I also upgraded to Windows 7 when it too became available.

But as for Windows 8 I really see no need or reason for me to upgrade this time not when Windows 7 is a great operating system just like XP was and still is, but heck who knows maybe I will upgrade later on but thats highly unlikely though even with a work-around, and even though Microsoft has reduced the price for the upgrade tremendously which by the way is a real shocker for them, the bandwagon for Windows 8 I'll not jump on based on the reduction in price or the new hardware that they recently developed for Windows 8.

Don't get me wrong now!! I do think Windows 8 is a good operating system but I don't think Microsoft even had the PC consumers in mind when they switched the interface in mid-stream of development just because they want to compete against Apple and Google in the tablet and the other mobile device market and they feel its necessary force the 'Metro' interface to all consumers and not just for the mobile device users.

As for for Windows 8 being more secure...hmmm...your system is only as secure as you make it no matter what operating system you use.

Tis just my opinion and .02¢
SJ

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Posted by SJ
As for for Windows 8 being more secure...hmmm...your system is only as secure as you make it no matter what operating system you use.
Do you think all those Tuesday updates are just for fun? LOL
StormJumper
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Posted on: 01 Aug 12 02:18
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Originally Posted by alan1476 View Post
Do you think all those Tuesday updates are just for fun? LOL
No sir!! I don't and I'm sure once Windows 8 is more available and in use, it too will receive patches come Tuesday patch days which will mean Windows 8 is not more secure, it may be now at this present time but only for the fact that its not widely used right now.

The bottom line is that when it comes to real security do not rely on the operating system because that responsibility is yours and yours alone.

Again...Tis only my .02¢

SJ
alan1476
Posts: 18348
Posted on: 01 Aug 12 02:30
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Originally Posted by StormJumper View Post
No sir!! I don't and I'm sure once Windows 8 is more available and in use, it too will receive patches come Tuesday patch days which will mean Windows 8 is not more secure, it may be now at this present time but only for the fact that its not widely used right now.

The bottom line is that when it comes to real security do not rely on the operating system because that responsibility is yours and yours alone.

Again...Tis only my .02¢

SJ
Well said my friend.
Gummigutta
Posts: 600
Posted on: 01 Aug 12 02:33
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Originally Posted by StormJumper View Post
Windows 8 is not more secure, it may be now at this present time but only for the fact that its not widely used right now.
It should be safer than older Windows versions.

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it would appear that Microsoft’s goal in including better security in Windows 8 is not so much to displace current antimalware vendors as it is to protect those Windows 8 users who are not likely to take the trouble to install something better. The new version of Defender in Windows 8 promises to be very good
http://anti-virus-software-review.to...-security.html
StormJumper
Posts: 12734
Posted on: 01 Aug 12 03:52
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Originally Posted by Gummigutta View Post
It should be safer than older Windows versions.



http://anti-virus-software-review.to...-security.html
Granted it may be safer then previous versions I'm not doubting that nor denying it, however to say its more secure when it is and has not been widely used by consumers and/or hackers have not had time to work on security flaws is like counting your chickens before their hatched, as everyone already knows by now hackers are very intelligent, highly resourceful and vigilant when it comes to finding holes and other ways to compromise a computer system, so yes it may be more secure now however its really just a matter of time when it is not so secure and one should not rely on the operating system or the manufacturer when it comes to the security of their system is all I'm saying.

Tis my last .02¢ on this.

SJ
olyteddy
Posts: 6564
Posted on: 01 Aug 12 03:55
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Originally Posted by Gummigutta View Post
It should be safer than older Windows versions.



http://anti-virus-software-review.to...-security.html
Just like the Mac is safer from hackers. If no one buys it, no one is going to bother writing exploits for it...
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