HDI’s DUNE BD Prime Blu-ray review

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Article posted 24 Nov 08 14:58

Introduction



Review:
DUNE BD Prime Blu-ray
Reviewed by:
Hi-Jack

Finally the moment has come that a new child is born and not being a boy or a girl, but being both.  That could have been the story but the story is a new player is born not being a DMA player or Blu-ray, but both.  The Hybrid player has seen the light and we will check if it is worth that light or not.  Strap on, as here comes the review you all have been longing for… the HDI’S DUNE BD Prime Blu-ray Media player.


Introduction

Dune
BD PrimeHDI’S DUNE awaits a difficult task as mainly MPC staff and I in particular are “against” the hype created by Blu-ray which is created by the fact PS3 consoles incorporate them. That’s however not the discussion we want to have today.

We dislike Blu-ray partially because of the cost, being too expensive and then there’s the movies being released weeks after the DVD version for which you pay more as well. Times will change though and that requires pioneers like HDI’S DUNE. We all like the networked media players and we are hopeful and excited to sit in front of the first player combining both, the HDI’S DUNE BD Prime.

The difficult task that lies at hand for HDI’S DUNE is to convince me that the Blu-ray addition to DMA player abilities is worth the extra cost over the alternative single DMA players. We will start finding out exactly that in just about as many pages we need to fill in this review to come to a conclusion.


The Package

We are not aware of what’s inside the package although expect to see the player, remote + batteries, a quick start / full manual and the standard AV cables. It is indicated there will be no cheap HDMI cable in the box but cables sold separately of good quality.


The BD Prime Hardware

The BD Prime has a size like the usual A/V components being 43cm width, about 5.5cm height and 28cm deep. The unit is looking great and is crafted well. The front is a plastic bevel where the Blu-ray drive sits in the middle, joined left by the display and at the right by some buttons to operate the unit (Play, Stop and Eject). A power button is available at the left.

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While in front of the unit, the right side of the player has a USB2 host to connect USB HDD or sticks which is usually easier to access than the rear side of the unit.

Covering the rear end now we found it strange seeing 2 USB2 ports. Well, not seeing two USB2 hosts was strange but finding these separated from each other.

We start off with finding the Ethernet RJ-45 port, HDMI 1.3, 1 USB at the left top rear end, S- Video and Composite, Component, Coaxial audio output, Optical audio output, Stereo L/R, another USB 2 host and finally the 7.1 Analog RCA.

Further do we find a hole covered with a plate which purposes adding the modules that can be purchased separately including Wireless N, Dual SATA and a GBIT RJ-45 which should deliver better network performance (untested). Notice only one of these can be attached and not all 3.

Inside, the player is based upon the SMP8634 chip from Sigma, 384MB RAM memory, 64MB flash chip and a 1GB NAND Flash in order to support JAVA fast in Blu-ray profile 2.0.

The BD drive inside the BD Prime is unknown (unmarked). The chip is cooled with a small fan mounted on an aluminum cooling plate. This cooler is audible (not totally silent) as is the DVD drive, making a light humming noise as well.


Remote Control

remote.gifThe remote control is the same as we seen before with the HD DUNE media player, albeit in a different color (black). The buttons and features are well arranged but as with most remotes, due to the functionality of the player exceeding the available buttons on the remote, several functions have been assigned to buttons that are not directly reflecting the commands.

We will discuss these options briefly during the media tests later on. Overall the response is good although we find the player reacts slowly every once in a while.

The first time we can test the remote is when we power on the player. A selection is offered to select a “safe video mode” which should lead to an image on your TV.

remote.gifThe remote holds a “mod” button which toggles between PAL – NTSC and HDMI output but we feel HDI’S DUNE made an error here as each cycle will hold the player hostage until the setting is applied. It would be better to offer faster selection to toggle between “all” output modes and when stopped, the current setting is applied. I think of people using Component for projector and HDMI for TV and such.

As stated, several options are located under “unlabeled” options. GoTo is available in two ways, pressing up and down will increase / decrease by 1 minute while pressing left and right will increase / decrease by 10 seconds; This in combination with numeric buttons (1 = 10%, 2 = 20% and so on) form the GoTo functions. A Time Search function is available too.

We handle all the options available during the media playback. As far as response is concerned, the unit reacts quite well on the remote, but occasionally we find slow response due to the system being busy with something else… like switching TV mode for instance.


Hardware Conclusion

Dreaming can do me no harm. I would have liked seeing the front right side incorporate some video input for connecting video cameras or even have the USB which is located on the right side incorporated behind a front door panel for easier access in case the BD Prime is placed inside a cabinet.

More I dislike the fact that placing the unit in standby leaves everything operational which if we combine that with the fact the fan keeps running, USB remains powered (fan is audible too from close by), we have a “green” problem. The cooler remains running because the player remains running as only video outputs are cut off while the rest remains operational. To be green, one has to use the power button and shut the player off.

We are positive on the hardware as we see a nice looking player with options and well built. The modules that can be integrated have only minimal space available inside (see pictures) where we assume it is merely in the form of a plate holding the connection with only one or few cables to be connected internally. The add-ons are not a “slot-in design”.

Since one of the modules is Wireless N allowing 3 antennas to be connected, the rear has been “predesigned” with the holes these fit in. These should be closed with a cap or something to promote airflow inside the unit even though the cooler is only a small one.

PS: HDI’S DUNE will have a second Hybrid player called the HD Center. This model will mainly differ from the BD Prime due to the use of higher quality housing and internal hard drive whereas the BD Prime can only be used with external attached storage. All the rest is alike between both models including add-ons and functionality. The HD Center has a more “high– end” look and feel and is mainly based on the design of the earlier HD media player DuneHD.

 
  


5 Comments

guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 28 Nov 08 06:09
And already an update... HDI's Dune BD Prime and HD Center seem to broaden their chances on the market by showing the units will heavily be supported with updates. HDI must have thought let's show them how we do things as even though the player cannot be purchased at this stage, a quite good update is already launched. The change list is concentrating around subtitles for international use, internal / external subtitle are enhanced and tune the overall convenience of the player where customers might get stuck. This is a great move in our opinion as with the easy menus and integration of a lot of useful tools and Blu-ray, being a convenient player just offers an extra edge to it. The firmware seems to address a lot of remarks made during the review which means they listen to feedback and react quite fast. Changes in the new firmware =========================== - Added support for playback of Bluray folders. - Press PLAY on a folder with Bluray disk structure (the folder must contain "BDMV" subfolder) to play it. - Bluray menus are supported. - BDJ is supported. - NOTE: Folders only are supported so far; ISO images are not supported yet (may be supported in future, but not fully sure yet) - NOTE: Good media read performance is needed for playback of most Bluray disks, especially high-bitrate ones. Read speed must exceed the maximum bitrate with a good reserve. USB HDD is suitable, NFS may be suitable depending on network/server, SMB is not suitable in most cases. - Test results: - Kinds of performed tests: - Dune's built-in file read test (to check network throughput). - Playback of BD1: bitrate peaks greater than 40 Mbit/s. - Playback of BD2: continuous bitrate regions greater than 45 MBit/s. - NTFS USB HDD: - Read test: ~20 MB/sec. - BD1: OK. - BD2: OK. - 100Mbit Ethernet, NFS, x86/Linux NFS server: - Read test: ~9 MB/sec. - BD1: OK. - BD2: OK. - 100Mbit Ethernet, NFS, WinXP + HaneWin NFS server: - Read test: ~5.5 MB/sec. - BD1: OK. - BD2: stutters. - 100Mbit Ethernet, SMB, WinXP: - Read test: ~5.5 MB/sec. - BD1: stutters. - BD2: stutters. - 1Gbit Ethernet, NFS, x86/Linux NFS server: - Read test: ~14 MB/sec. - BD1: OK. - BD2: OK. - 1Gbit Ethernet, NFS, WinXP + HaneWin NFS server: - Read test: ~16 MB/sec. - BD1: OK. - BD2: OK. - 1Gbit Ethernet, SMB, WinXP: - Read test: ~9.5 MB/sec. - BD1: OK. - BD2: stutters. - NOTE: SMB may not be suitable for very high bitrate playback even when the read test shows good numbers. The reason is that SMB processing eats much more CPU power in comparison with NFS (and Bluray playback needs a lot of CPU power for its own needs). - Added support for more languages in subtitles. - Now supported: - Western European languages (CP-1252). - Cyrillic languages (CP-1251). - Hebrew (CP-1255). - Support for all languages is provided for all cases: - External subtitle files using 8-bit encoding (codepage). - External subtitle files using Unicode UTF-8 encoding. - MKV-embedded subtitles (Unicode). - For external subtitle files, the encoding/codepage is autodetected by default; the encoding can also be specified explicitly via Setup / Misc / Encodings / "Subtitles encoding" setting. - Improved subtitles visualization: outline instead of background shading. - Fixed issue with subtitles cutting on first unsupported character. - Improved the default vertical position of subtitles. (Goal: place subtitles exactly in the black area below 2.35:1 movies). - Added possibility to adjust the vertical position of subtitles. - Press "SUBTITLE" button, then use "UP" and "DOWN" buttons to adjust the vertical position. - The adjustment is remembered persistently. - Added support for .SUB (MicroDVD) format of external subtitle files. - Improved compatibility with .SRT external subtitle files (added support for some non-standard but nevertheless sometimes used syntax variations). - Added Setup options to control the behavior of "ENTER" and "PLAY" remote buttons on media files. - Possible choices: "Play single file", "Generate playlist". - The default is as in NMT ("ENTER" plays single file, "PLAY" generates playlist). - Added Setup option to control the behavior of "ENTER" remote button on folders with DVD-Video/Bluray backups. - Possible choices: "Play", "Open", "Ask user". - The default is "Ask user". - Improved "screenshot with EJECT button" feature: - A detailed description/warning is shown when the user attempts to enable it. - On screenshot capturing errors (e.g. no storage is attached), a better message is shown on the front panel display: {"SHOT", "FAILED"} instead of just "ERROR". - In file browser mode, a notification about both succesful and failed screenshots is shown not only on the front panel display, but also on TV. - Improved Setup structure: - A new section "Applications" introduced, which includes subsections for the configuration of all extra "top level" features: - Torrent client. - Web browser. - IPTV menu. - Internet Radio menu. - Digital Signage. - Dune HD movies service demo. - Slightly improved zoom for file and DVD-Video playback. - Captions of standard zoom presets simplified. - Help on available remote buttons is shown for custom zoom mode. - Added WiFi and Gigabit Ethernet hardware support (was not included into the previous FW). - Supported hardware: - USB WiFi 802.11n D-Link DWA-140. - MiniPCI WiFi 802.11n (RALink RT2860 chipset). - MiniPCI Gigabit Ethernet (Realtek RTL8110 chipset). - Limitation: for now, it is possible to choose WiFi or Gigabit Ethernet network connection kind in Setup even if the corresponding hardware is not installed; this may confuse the user. This problem will be addressed in future fw. - Minor improvements in some icons/captions.
guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 28 Dec 08 12:08
Hi, Good thorough review, Is it planned to have onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio codecs and output over the analogue outputs to older recievers that dont have HDMI? Thanks
xu477577153
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Posted on: 29 Dec 08 14:19
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guest
Posts: 15288
Posted on: 10 Feb 09 12:48
yes, there's a list of enhancements where consumers can vote... The most voted features willb be implemented first... http://hdi.co.il/features/ The list is valid for both BD Center and HD Prime. Notice that the design of the HD Center has changed vs the one that was shown on their page. They updated the page now after releasing the player and seeing the amount of people noticing the differences...
will99
Posts: 2
Posted on: 25 May 09 22:39
But what about the quality of the image? Did i missed the paragraph describing about the quality of the image?? thanks William!

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