Pioneer DVR-112 DVD Burner Review

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Dee
Senior Administrator and Reviewer
Article posted 24 Mar 07 17:58

Advanced tests

 

To round off this review, we will run some advanced tests on the Pioneer DVR-112. These tests are: “Sheep Test”, and some special disc tests.

 

For this test, we will use the Sheep tests made by Alexander Noé. Why is it called sheep test? That’s because the logo of the first 1 to 1 copy program called CloneCD is a sheep. When looking at supported writers, you will notice that the feature list has sheep to indicate if a feature is supported or not. In this case we are interested in the writer’s ability to backup/write weak sectors. Also called: “Correct EFM encoding of regular bit-patterns”.

  • No sheep: Can’t backup any safedisc 2 versions without the help of software tricks
  • 1 Sheep: Can backup safedisc 2 up to version 2.4x without software tricks
  • 2 Sheep: Can backup safedisc 2, including version 2.5x
  • 3 Sheep: Can write all possible weak sectors, few if any writers could do this.

One of our forum moderators Womble; has written a guide concerning the “Sheep Test” that can be and be found here.

In the screenshot below taken from CloneCD, we see the Pioneer DVR-112 supports everything.

The Pioneer DVR-112 supports DAO-RAW96 recording mode, which basically means, it can write uncorrected data and sub-channel data.


 

As we can see from the table and screenshots, the Pioneer DVR-112 is a “Two Sheep Burner”.

Overburning:


900MB (99 minute) over-burn test:

For this test we used an Infiniti Professional Compax 99min/900mb CD-R. (Thanks to Medea International (UK) for providing the disc).

WE attempted to burn a test disc of 97 minutes, the disc failed at 80 minutes. WE tried again with another disc and same applied. The burn failed at 80 minutes.

700MB (80 minute) over-burn test:

 

From the screenshot above, the Pioneer DVR-112 reported a maximum overburn capacity of 82:22.74. We attempted to burn a disc slightly less than the reported maximum capacity. To be exact we setup a test burn of 82 minutes and 10 seconds. The burn once again failed at 80 minutes.

DVD+R over-burn test:

We first tried to burn a DVD+R media.

As we can see from the above screenshot, the Pioneer DVR-112 does not support overburning on this media type.

DVD-R over-burn test:

We will now try a DVD-R media.

Again the Pioneer DVR-112 did not support overburning to the media type.

MINI DVD discs:


In this section we are going to test if the Pioneer DVR-112 is capable of writing and reading mini DVD-RW discs with a capacity of 30 minutes/1.46 GB.

The Memorex media is made by CMC Magnetics.  Thanks to Memorex Europe for sending us this media.

The Pioneer DVR-112 had no problems in writing our test MINI DVD-RW disc. Now let’s find out if the drive can read the disc.

The Pioneer DVR-112 read our test MINI DVD-RW media without any problems.

Video-CD disc:


For our final test we wanted to see how the Pioneer DVR-112 would read a Video-CD, for this test we created a Video-CD with Nero Burning ROM 7, and used NERO CD-DVD Speed to read the disc back. Below is our result:

The Pioneer DVR-112 had no problems in reading our Video-CD disc at 40x read speed.

This concludes our Pioneer DVR-112 review. To read the conclusion, click on the link below.


26 Comments

guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 27 Mar 07 08:02
crap review where are the advance tests to test error correction and audio protections
Dee
Posts: 11995
Posted on: 27 Mar 07 14:35
@Sean Protected audio CD's are not available in my location. Maybe you can send me some to test :*
Hypnosis4U2NV
Posts: 1465
Posted on: 31 Mar 07 01:56
Its a good review, thanks for posting its chipset..
Wischmop
Posts: 404
Posted on: 01 Apr 07 20:20
I like that writer and review :B
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 07 Apr 07 14:49
I am confused as to why this drive got editors choice and the DRW-1612BL didn't as it is the only sheep 3 burner I have ever seen. What makes this burner better then the DRW-1612BL?
Dee
Posts: 11995
Posted on: 09 Apr 07 12:43
^ Writing quality on all media groups won it the award.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 10 Apr 07 17:15
"As we can see from the screenshot below, the drive supports accurate stream and C2 error info and doesn’t support caching." Doesn't screenshot show contrary(C2 - no, cache - yes)? Or it is wrong screenshot?
Dee
Posts: 11995
Posted on: 10 Apr 07 18:38
^ Correct screenshot but wrong information. I corrected it now, thanks for reporting it. :X
ptch
Posts: 7
Posted on: 12 Apr 07 18:57
This message was edited at: 12-04-2007 20:20
ptch
Posts: 7
Posted on: 12 Apr 07 20:18
This message was edited at: 12-04-2007 20:20
ptch
Posts: 7
Posted on: 12 Apr 07 20:21
I've bought this burner because of the "editors choice" and because it "can be used along with Nero CD-Speed for Disc Quality Scanning”. To my surprise Disc Quality Scanning is completely irrealistic (e.g. PIE is about 10 times higher that with Lite-ON). Googling showed that it's a known problem of all Pioneer burners. For example, see that link http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t319198.html Please update the review, because it's misleading.
Dee
Posts: 11995
Posted on: 15 Apr 07 11:28
Other makes of drives report PI/PIF errors differently than Lite-On and Plextor drives, NEC and BenQ for example. The fact is they do support PI/PIF scanning just like the Pioneer drives do and that is all that is claimed in the review.
ptch
Posts: 7
Posted on: 17 Apr 07 14:45
Pioneers do report the errors, but PIE level is far beyond the 280 set by DVD+/-R specifivation. Consequently that reporting has a very limited utility. In addition huge spikes (up to PIE > 17 000) are often present on the graphs. Your answer reminds me an old story with hotel reservation in India. If you just reserve a room with aircond there is a great chance that it will not working. In fact you must always precise "with working aircond" while booking. I refolmulate me request. Could you please precise in the review that although the error reporting is indeed working, but the PIE level always exeeds the DVD+/-R specs. That is not the case with Lite-on, BENQ, NEC and Plextor.
Dee
Posts: 11995
Posted on: 17 Apr 07 14:58
"but the PIE level always exeeds the DVD+/-R specs. That is not the case with Lite-on, BENQ, NEC and Plextor." This is not the case, BenQ and NEC drives often report out of spec scans on perfectly good burns. The Pioneer scan in the review is within specifcation. :*
ptch
Posts: 7
Posted on: 17 Apr 07 15:42
OK, the aircond is blowing the air. And we don't care that the air is hot
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 27 Apr 07 14:48
has anyone used this burner with the wytron 688 ? i am 5 of them with a wytron 688 andhave been burning successfully at 8x, just wondering if anyone is burning at a faster rate with success.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 05 May 07 23:01
CRAP! Pioneer SUCK!, i have just returned my 5th drive for replacement, dont buy this shit, pioneer drives are cheap for a reason, they suck!. I guarantee if you buy this, you will have lazer failiure in months, you have been warned. :r
r_saotome
Posts: 484
Posted on: 06 May 07 06:14
Bought BestBuy's version of the DVR-112D, died inside of a week. A week later bought 2 Pioneer DVR-112D's from NewEgg, both of them are still working perfectly since March 2007, nothing but smooth sailing. Also, overall the best DVD burner I've owned, next to the BenQ 1640...^_^
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 09 May 07 05:32
return my 112D. It will just stop writing on Verbatim/Sony/Philips and hang the whole computer.
dvddvd
Posts: 1
Posted on: 20 May 07 23:19
This test is very funny because it's so misleading. It totally ignores the lack of write quality as revealed in the well-known German computer magazine "c't" issue 2007/11 p. 122 which affects not only the Pioneer DVR-112 but a couple of new competitors drives as well. Compared to an old test where they tested the DVR-111 (which I own) the write quality of the DVR-111 exceeded the write quality of the DVR-112 except for CD-R where the DVR-112 was better. If these problems are not firmware based I would rather buy a DVR-111 again than a DVR-112. c't assumes that the enourmous price pressure may have caused the degraded write quality with those new drives (not only Pioneer!) in their test.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 12 Jul 07 13:54
I bought 3 of these. All are now in the bin. 2 would still burn DVD's but won't read or write CD's!!! I'm looking for some 110's or even 111's to replace them with. Might try lite-on's instead next batch. Nightmare for me as a supplier. Cost me heaps ... just replacing discs alone.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 16 Jul 07 11:43
Took 46 minutes to read 26% of a test-recorded dvd-ram of just 1minute 48 seconds recording time. No problem with any other type of disc. Awaiting advice from Pioneer. Had 111D before this burner, excellent performer but couldn't write to dvd-ram.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 08 Sep 07 19:06
My Plextor PX-760A failed again, my first PX-760A lived only 12 months, then I purchased a PX760A - lived for 5 months. The returned unit wrote disks at very bad quality and was replaced 2 weeks after. 6 months after that, on 2007-September 4th I just sent that 3rd PX-760A for warranty services. It did about 15 Excellent quality recordings on DVD+R16 Plextor media (I haven't used it more), but now it stopped writing on DVD+/-RW. That's total of 4 recorders send for warranty services, I'm waiting to receive the 5th. I have 9 more months remaining for warranty services, I bet it won't make it By the way I'm going to buy another brand recorder for fail safe. Plextor - King of the quality? Well yes, but as well king of short life and failures! My opinion: never again! I wonder what should I buy for second (backup-reserve) recorder? I was just thinking about Pioneer, while reading this review, when I read in the previous comments that they live short too. What a shame on Pioneer!
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 19 Sep 07 02:21
Stays in PIO mode, can't seem to force it into DMA. Thus, record speed maxes at 1X for DVD+RW. Bleah!
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 15 Jan 08 00:49
Replaced my first one for a second and this second one seems to have problems with audio extraction, some glitches which a generic DVD-reader doesn't produce...
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 01 May 08 04:44
I added two of these drives when I built a new system in January. I finally got me some ultra high speed CR-RWs (24X rewrite speed)from Memorix as I tend to create a lot of CDs that I rewrite often. Looks like this drive has issues re-writing to this brand of CD-RWs at anything over 12x. I've had mulitple verification failures at speeds of 16x or higher. Testing using the latest CDSpeed Nero utility now called DiskSpeed not DriveSpeed. AFAIK I have the latest firmware...124. Gonna replace both of these with some newer DVR-115's

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