Plextor PX-W4012S (SCSI)

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Article posted 12 Feb 03 19:16

Copy Protected Data

 

In this part of our SCSI PlexWriter review we’ll start testing the reading and writing of copy-protected data discs. Copy-protections are used on pretty much every game nowadays so it’s important a writer can handle the various protections out there. For the tests we used the latest CloneCD version 4.2.0.2 from Elaborate Bytes . As you might know (if you’ve read our CloneCD v4.0 preview ), CloneCD uses Profiles for each type of disc. In this review we created a separate Profile for each protection with the common settings used in the old CloneCD versions. E.g. for SafeDisc we only selected the ‘Fast Error Skip’ setting.

As an extra ’service’ or help you can download the Profiles we have used in this review. Click on the Profile images to download the used Profile. Store these files in your CloneCD/Profiles folder on your hard disk. Alternatively you can view and download all used Profiles from our CloneCD forum , by clicking here.

Let’s start by giving you a screenshot of the supported drive capabilities of the Plextor drive with CloneCD v4.2.0.2:

CloneCD Drive Capabilities

As you can see in the picture above, the Plextor PX-W4012S is fully supported by CloneCD (DAO-RAW96, which means the drive can write uncorrected data and SubChannel Data). In the table below we’ve summed up all of our results and after the table we will clarify our results:

Plextor PX-W4012S Reading/Writing Protected Data

LaserLock:

Download LaserLock Profile For the LaserLock test we use a game called ‘Desperados’ protected with LaserLock. As a comparison we read from both the original disc and from a back-up (CD-Recordable) disc since there can be quite a difference in read times, as you can also see from our achieved results. While the original disc was read in about 48 minutes, the back-up was read in only 15 minutes. Although these read times might seem slow, this is actually not such a bad result.

SafeDisc:

Download SafeDisc Profile To test the SafeDisc protection we used a game called ‘Beavis and Butthead: BungHole in One’. The SafeDisc protection is a very old protection but it uses a lot of errors on the first 5% of the disc which can make reading the disc take a really long time. This is luckily not the case with the SCSI PlexWriter. As expected (Plextor writers are known to be very fast ‘error skippers’), the disc was read in only 2 minutes and 29 seconds, only one second behind our fastest reader, the Plextor PX-W4824A.

SafeDisc 2:

Download SafeDisc Profile For our next tests we used a game called ‘The Sims: House Party’ protected with SafeDisc version 2.10.030. As expected the disc was again read very fast in only 2 minutes and 13 seconds. To test the Plextor PX-W4012S’ ability to write this protection we wrote the image with ‘ weak sectors ‘ (formerly known as AWS) set to ignore. The created back-up disc was then tested in the following drives:

Test drives
(weak sectors ignored)

The Sims:
House Party
v2.10.030
-Lite-On LTR-52246S passed
-Plextor PX-W4012S passed
-Plextor PX-W4824A passed
-Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1502  passed

As expected the Plextor drive had no problems creating a fully working back-up of this SafeDisc 2 protection. Now let’s try again with an improved version of this copy-protection:

SafeDisc 2.51:

Besides our SafeDisc and SafeDisc 2 tests we need to take a look at the newer SafeDisc 2 versions. For these tests we used two games: ‘Serious Sam 2: The Second Encounter’ protected with SafeDisc v2.51.021 and ‘Mafia: The City Of Lost Heaven’ protected with SafeDisc v2.70.030.

Download SafeDisc Profile We read the image with the Plextor PX-W4012S drive using the same ‘SafeDisc (2) [no AWS]‘ Profile as for our normal SafeDisc and SafeDisc 2 tests. The ‘ Hide CDR Media ‘ option was enabled in the CloneCD tray to test playing from the CD-RW drives. The results when playing from the following drives:

Test drives
(weak sectors ignored)

Serious Sam 2
v2.51.021
Mafia
v2.70.030
-Lite-On LTR-52246S passed failed
-Plextor PX-W4012S passed passed
-Plextor PX-W4824A passed passed
-Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1502  failed failed

Download SafeDisc AWS Profile As you can see from the list above the created back-ups didn’t play from all drives. As expected both back-ups failed in the picky Toshiba DVD-ROM. Next we re-wrote the same image file but now with the ‘weak sectors’ set to amplify using the ‘SafeDisc 2(.51) [AWS]‘ Profile. The ‘Hide CDR Media’ option was again enabled in the CloneCD tray to test playing from the CD-RW drives. The results when playing from the following drives:

Test drives
(weak sectors ignored)

Serious Sam 2
v2.51.021
Mafia
v2.70.030
-Lite-On LTR-52246S passed passed
-Plextor PX-W4012S passed passed
-Plextor PX-W4824A passed passed
-Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1502  passed passed

When the ‘weak sectors’ were amplified the Plextor PX-W4012S created a perfect back-up which played in all drives we tested, even from the picky Toshiba DVD-ROM.

SafeDisc 2.80:

More SafeDisc tests? Yes we also need to take a look at the latest SafeDisc 2 version, 2.80. This is another improved version of this copy-protection and is the hardest one to beat. For the SafeDisc 2.80 test we used a game called ‘Grand Prix 4′ protected with SafeDisc v2.80.010 (after applying the official patch, version 9.6). For our SafeDisc 2.80 tests we used the same copy method as for our other SafeDisc 2 tests. In the table below you can see the achieved results:

Test drives
Grand Prix 4
v2.80.010

Weak Sectors
Ignored
Weak Sectors
Amplified
-Lite-On LTR-52246S failed passed
-Plextor PX-W4012S passed passed
-Plextor PX-W4824A passed passed
-Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1502  failed passed

Although the SafeDisc v2.80 protection is the hardest version to beat, the Plextor PX-W4012S had no problems creating a fully working back-up when the weak sectors were amplified. The same result as we saw with the other SafeDisc 2 versions.

SecuRom *NEW*:

Download SecuRom Profile The next protected data tests we did was with a game called ‘Neverwinter Nights’ protected with a newer version of SecuRom (v4.76.00.0051). Note that we didn’t apply the official game patch for this title since with this patch no back-up works. We read the third disc of the game (play disc) in 8 minutes and 12 seconds. The Plextor PX-W4012S was limited to about 8x reading when extracting the SubChannel Data, the same performance as we saw with the Plextor PX-W4012A drive. We tested the created back-up disc in several drives and the game started every time. Note that when playing from a CD-RW drive you have to enable CloneCD’s ‘Hide CDR Media’ option.

PlayStation/LibCrypt:

Download LibCrypt Profile When reading the black PlayStation disc the Plextor drive was again limited to about 8x reading, resulting in a read time of minutes and seconds. Not a too bad result considering that at this lower read speed you can be sure the extracted SubChannel Data is reliable.

Next up in our Plextor PX-W4012S review, the reading of protected audio discs…

12 Comments

Nila
Posts: 691
Posted on: 26 Mar 03 10:29
This is by far the best audio ripping software out there and is acknowledged throughout the web as being so. This is used by almost ALL the groups to rip the cd's before they release them.
Lazza
Posts: 263
Posted on: 26 Mar 03 10:52
Agreed! Foe Audio nothing else comes close.
dmozk
Posts: 21
Posted on: 27 Mar 03 22:48
"For a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of 9 USD the drive is yours..." Sweet hook me up with the store selling them at that price!
G@M3FR3@K
Posts: 10654
Posted on: 31 Mar 03 19:16
Hmm it's supposed to say $ 319. It seems there is a bug in the system that deletes the dollar sign when it's followed by a number. I've corrected the error now. Thanks for noticing
JLP
Posts: 97
Posted on: 05 Apr 03 00:09
Yup this is the best you can get.
damiandimitri
Posts: 3702
Posted on: 05 Apr 03 11:46
agree...but i would like to see an update to get rid of some problems some people have
MTR
Posts: 100
Posted on: 05 Apr 03 11:52
I agree this is a great piece of rippig software, but if you have a Plextor drive, nothing beats PlexTools at DAE. Never though I'd find a program better than EAC, but it happened. :g
cerberus
Posts: 2158
Posted on: 01 Sep 04 17:56
good to make coasters
digit010
Posts: 35
Posted on: 08 Nov 06 05:16
There's not much to say about EAC apart from its the very best audio CD ripper available to date.I can tell you now,you WONT find any better than this. A downside is that some users may find it difficult to configure to begin with but if you take a look at many tutorials on various websites,it will help you to correctly configure it and begin ripping "exact" copies of your CD collection. Of course if you own a Plextor then Plextools is good competition.
RebeccaLin
Posts: 2
Posted on: 05 Jan 07 07:44
Hello, Dennis..I'm very interested in the products you posted. and I want to make several inquiries: 1) IF I make an order of two to three pcs, can you provide me certain discount? 2) Is your product brand new or second-handed? 3) You know, I'm in China, can you tell me where you are so that I can calculate the frieght, OK? 4) Can you contact me by mail for further discussion? My E-mail is power_servo_gz@yahoo.com Looking forward to your soonest reply. My Best Regards, Rebecca
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 16 Jul 07 04:31
I always always use plexwriter since the old time until now, but if u ask me my reaction for "The Plex" only one... expensive hehehehe but wwwwwworrrthh it
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 14 Feb 09 13:02
I always use plextor SCSI, that I would say, that is so reliable drive. IDE? No no no !! Everyone who ask me I recommended SCSI drive. PLEXTOR PX-W4012S1 Adaptec AHA-2940AU

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