Sony DRU-820A DVD Burner Review

Author

Zevia
Senior Administrator and Review Coordinator USA
Article posted 05 Mar 06 05:42

DVD+R/RW Writing performance

 

The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD±R at 16x, DVD+RW at 8x, and DVD-RW at 6x. In this part, we will measure the write time for various types of DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW discs. We will also focus on write quality and media compatibility.

DVD-Writing performance:


First, let us see how long of a time it needs to create a disc with Nero. We used Nero Burning Rom to set up a new UDF/ISO compilation containing 4482Mb (4.38GB) of data, and started the write process. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.


DVD+R


DVD-R

The DVD+R disc was finished in 6 minutes and 20 second, while the DVD-R disc was finished in 6 minutes and 9 seconds, which are about the same time when testing with Nero CD-DVD Speed Create Data Disc.

Write DVD data discs

DVD+R

DVD-R

Lite-On
SHOW-1653S

6m:03s
(16x speed)

7m:28a
(12x speed)

LG
GSA-5160D

6m:22s
(16x speed)

8m:16s
(8x speed)

NEC
ND-3540A

6m:17s
(16x speed)

6m:05s
(16x speed)

BenQ
DW1640

6m:01s
(16x speed)

6m:11s
(16x speed)

Pioneer
DVR-110D

6m:25s
(16x speed)

6m:11s
(16x speed)

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

6m:26s
(16x speed)

6m:05s
(16x speed)

LG
GSA-4167B

5m:40s
(16x speed)

5m:30s
(16x speed)

NEC
ND-4550A

6m:15s
(16x speed)

6m:16s
(16x speed)

Plextor
PX-750A

6m:36s
(16x speed)

6m:24s
(16x speed)

Sony
DRU-820A

6m:20s
(16x speed)

6m:09s
(16x speed)

The Sony DRU-820A is above average at DVD-R and DVD+R in respect to 16x writing speed.

Write quality:


You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers. So we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On, in this test we use a Lite-On SOHW-1693S DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can’t be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings;  PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don’t think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan above shows the results from a pressed, Single Layer DVD-Video disc (Widow on the Hill).

This next scan shows the result from a pressed Double Layer DVD-Video disc (Monster in Law). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (the error levels jump from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs above are well within the standards.

If you want to look at the standards for yourself, download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors:

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8
consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see that a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors and that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything, but if you’re interested, look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher, giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use, a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here is what the ECMA 337 states:

‘If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be ‘PI-uncorrectable“.”

In theory, an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (uncorrectable errors) allowed on a good disc:

‘In any ECC Block the number of PI-uncorrectable rows should not exceed 4.”  

This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1, the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF’s.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc ‘“ but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a SONY DRU-820A DVD-Writer. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Easier explanation on how to read the test results.


Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in KProbe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

  • PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.
  • PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always: the lower is better.

Also look at the reading curve; if it looks clean with no dips it should be good, a small slowdown near the end is accepted.

DVD+R media compatibilty and write quality:


In these tests we will be using a Lite-On SOHW-1693S drive with firmware KS0A along with K-Probe to measure the disc quality. We will also be using the NEC ND-3540A with firmware 1.3 for our read-back tests.



 

Brand:

Verbatim ‘“ Thanks to Verbatim USA for providing this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MCC 004

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:09s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.64

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Excellent quality with this media. Highly recommended!




 

Brand:

Sony

Manufacturer:

Sony Corporation

Code:

SONYD21

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:09s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

3.04

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.08

The quality scan is very nice with smooth read-back curve.




 

Brand:

Memorex – Thanks to Memorex USA for providing this media.

Manufacturer:

Prodisc Technology

Code:

Prodisc R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:35s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.33

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

The quality scan shows that the drive writes very well with this media. However, the read-back curve shows a minor problem at the end of the disk.




 

Brand:

Memorex – Thanks to Memorex USA for providing this media.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Company Limited

Code:

RICOHJPN R03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:21s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.39

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.06

Unfortunately with this 16x media the drive only support writing at 8x speed! Nonetheless, the write quality is very good with a smooth read-back curve.




 

Brand:

Maxell ‘“ Thanks to Maxell USA for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Philips

Code:

PHILIPS C16

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:16s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

3.30

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.05

Again, this 16x rated media is only supported at 8x. The write quality is very good with smooth Transfer Rate test means that there is no read-back problem.




Brand:

Optodisc ‘“ Thanks to Optodisc for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Optodisc

Code:

OPTODISC R16

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:14s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.26

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

Once more, a 16x rated media supported only at 8x. The write quality is excellent though.




Brand:

RiDATA ‘“ Thanks to Advanced Media/Ritek USA for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RITEK R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:16s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.41

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.09

Although the write quality is excellent with no read-back problem, note that it was burned at 8x because of firmware limitation.




Brand:

Memorex ‘“ Thanks to Memorex USA for sending this media.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

CMCMAG M01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:13s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.98

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.05

An excellent result, but this 16x certified media was burned at 8x only.

Now let us continue with testing 8x certified DVD+R media.




Brand:

Fujifilm

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000 T02

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:15s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.57

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

The Sony DRU-820A writes Taiyo Yuden excellent as expected. Highly recommended!




Brand:

Sony

Manufacturer:

Sony Corporation

Code:

SONY D11

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:14s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

3.08

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

Excellent result with no read-back problem!




Brand:

Verbatim

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MCC 003

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:15s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.13

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

Excellent result and a smooth Transfer Rate test.




Brand:

Staples

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India Ltd.

Code:

MBPG101 R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:16s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.13

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

Very nicely written. Transfer graph is excellent.




Brand:

TDK

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics Corporation

Code:

CMCMAG E01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:18s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.89

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.14

Although we can see single spikes of 5 PIF, in general there is no problem with this media.




Brand:

Ritek

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RITEK R03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:26s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.44

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

Another fine burn with smooth transfer graph!

 

DVD+ReWritable media:


The Sony DRU-820A supports writing to DVD+RW discs at maximum 8x speed.



Brand:

Verbatim ‘“ Thanks to Verbatim USA for sending us the media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MKM A03

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

7m:43s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

29.02

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.21

Some PIF spikes at the end of the disc although read-back problem is smooth.




Brand:

RiDATA ‘“ Thanks to Advanced Media/Ritek USA for sending us the media.

Manufacturer:

RiTEK Corporation

Code:

RITEK 008

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:19s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

37.46

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

A little high in PIEs but PIFs very low.  Very good result and a perfect read-back curve.




Brand:

Verbatim ‘“ Thanks to Verbatim USA for sending us the media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MKM A02

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:58s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

4.04

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.92

Single PIF spikes of 5 but overall good result.




Brand:

Maxell ‘“ Thanks to Maxell for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Company Limited

Code:

RICOHJPN W11

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:43s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

4.74

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

1.35

Single PIF spikes of 5 but overall good result with a nice read-back curve.



Brand:

Optodisc ‘“ Thanks to Optodisc for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Optodisc

Code:

OPTODISC OP4

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:58s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

21.83

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

2.56

The result shows quite high PIF error although PI errors are within limits. The transfer rate test also shows a single drop at the end of the disc.

 

DVD+R/RW Summary:


Here’s the summary of DVD+R and DVD+RW media we have tested along with the resulting write quality:

DVD+R
Brand

Code

Certified
Speed

Write
Speed

PIE
Avg/s

PIF
Avg/s

Verbatim

MCC 004

16x

16x

0.64

0.00

Sony

SONY D21

16x

16x

3.04

0.08

Memorex

Prodisc R04

16x

16x

2.33

0.02

Memorex

RICOHJPN R03

16x

8x

0.39

0.06

Maxell

PHILIPS C16

16x

8x

3.30

0.05

Optodisc

Optodisc R16

16x

8x

0.26

0.03

RiDATA

RITEK R04

16x

8x

1.41

0.09

Memorex

CMCMAG M01

16x

8x

0.98

0.05

Fujifilm

YUDEN000 T02

8x

8x

0.57

0.00

Sony

SONY D11

8x

8x

3.08

0.02

Verbatim

MCC 003

8x

8x

2.13

0.01

Staples

MBPG101 R04

8x

8x

0.13

0.01

TDK

CMCMAG E01

8x

8x

1.89

0.14

Ritek

RITEK R03

8x

8x

1.44

0.01

DVD+RW
Brand

Code

Certified
Speed

Write
Speed

PIE
Avg/s

PIF
Avg/s

Verbatim

MKM A03

8x

8x

29.02

0.21

RiDATA

RITEK 008

8x

8x

37.46

0.04

Verbatim

MKM A02

4x

4x

4.04

0.92

Maxell

RICOHJPN W11

4x

4x

4.74

1.35

Optodisc

Optodisc OP4

4x

4x

21.83

2.56

Memorex

CMCMAG W02

4x

4x

5.47

0.31

We were quite surprised that many 16x DVD+R media can only be burned at 8x due to lack of firmware support. We are certain that this issue can be fixed in next firmware updates, however this is not as expected since these 16x media have been in the market for quite a while.

The write quality on DVD+RW media is good in general, but we would like to see some improvements for Verbatim 8x DVD+RW (MKM A03) as this media did very well on other drives.

On the next page you will find the DVD-R/RW writing results…


8 Comments

Blodulv
Posts: 710
Posted on: 14 Apr 06 15:42
Sony 820A=Benq1670? i heard someone mention this...i know its strange since the 1670 isnt out yet!:d
taylor30
Posts: 56
Posted on: 18 Nov 06 12:52
Anydvd is better but it costs 39.00 this is free and does the same job.
mstone.870
Posts: 1134
Posted on: 22 Dec 06 07:04
Hi, I've been using Fab Decrypter and it's great. I've tried other software that's been much more expensive and promised many things , but Fab has out done them all. I love it when they say that they will copy all movies and when you try, screens pop up saying they can't for whatever reason or other. But Fab, always comes through. There have been times when there have been problems but between the very timely updates and the outstanding help I've gotten at the CD Freaks Forum I've been able to always resolve any issues that have arisen. Thanks Fengtao for a great product and hard work
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 23 Mar 07 18:15
I HAVE THIS. but it reads my dvd's like cd's. my dvd's has 4.7 gb of space. but when i go to my computer it only show me 638 mb. can anyone help me with this problem
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 04 Jun 07 02:30
well, I couldn't write with it with DVD-cloner 4, after taking image from several movies it turned out that the software doesn't support it, and I'm very very disappointed for the money I've lost over the writer and the software.
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 20 Jul 07 04:14
The only reason I have this burner is because my other two burners ate it. And I use Sony Vegas and Architect-- so its compatible. Otherwise, its a piece of crap, the slowest burner I have ever had in my life. When it runs, my entire computer is virtually unusable. Discs take for freaking ever to write. Not recommended unless you are desperate. :r
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 13 Nov 07 16:19
I don't understand how something that costs $39.00 is better than something that does the same thing for free. Strange logic. All I can say is that there is nothing that I have come across that I haven't been able to copy using Fab Decrypter
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 20 Nov 08 07:57
i also have this burner this is really shit... suppose i burn 10 dvd/cd than the result is 6-7 dvd/cd burn successful rest are verification fail ... tried on windows ,linux,hackintosh same result .... not suggested for purchase.... pls tell me which dvd writer should i purchase lite on/samsung/hp or any other :c :c :c :c :c :c :c :c :c :c :c :c

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