Pioneer BDR-203BK Blu ray burner review

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Dee
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Article posted 05 Apr 09 14:04

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Introduction:

On this page, the author of the review has the freedom to run tests that she/he thinks will enhance the review. These tests are unlike our standard tests, which we try to keep consistent throughout the whole review team, so that our reviews are as consistent as possible. This page gives the reviewer the opportunity to show some advanced and real world tests that other review team members may not be able to run.

Real World tests:


Real world tests are designed to simulate what normal users might use their drives for in everyday use. For example, writing discs with a burning application.

Audio Extraction:

For this test we used EAC (Exact Audio Copy) to test the drive’s Audio extraction performance. As we can see from the screenshot below, the drive supports accurate stream.

Below is the results produced by EAC:

Burst mode

Secure mode

The Pioneer BDR-203BK performed well in burst mode, but was much slower in secure mode.

Nero Burning Rom:

In the following tests, we will burn discs from the main media groups with Nero Burning Rom  

CD-R:

For our data writing tests, we simply set up a new compilation of 703MB using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with “finalize disc” enabled. The screenshot below shows how long it takes to write a disc at the highest speed. (32x)

The Pioneer BDR-203BK burned our test CD-R at 32x in 4 minutes and 12 seconds.

Let’s compare with other drives in our table below. Note, the other drives in our table are DVD burners, therefore, it is perhaps not fair to directly compare them.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK was the slowest drive when writing our test CD-R. This was to be expected as the drive is primarily a Blu-ray writer.

DVD R:

In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD R discs. We used Nero Burning Rom to burn an ISO compilation containing 4483MB of data. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK burned our test DVD R at 16x in 5 minutes and 51 seconds.

Let’s compare with other drives in our table below. Please note, that the Pioneer BDR-203BK is primarily a Blu-ray writer.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK was the slowest drive when writing our test DVD R media. But again we must take into consideration, that the Pioneer BDR-230BK is a Blu-ray writer, even then, it held its own against our DVD burners.

DVD DL:

In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD R DL discs. We used Nero Burning Rom to burn an ISO DVD-Video compilation containing 8103MB of data. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK burned our test DVD R DL at 8x in 15 minutes and 50 seconds.

Let’s compare with other drives in our table below. Once again, we note that the Pioneer BDR-203BK is primarily a Blu-ray burner.

Even though the Pioneer BDR-203BK is a Blu-ray drive, it was about average when writing our test DVD+R DL media. Excellent speed from a Blu-ray drive.


BD-R 50GB

For this test we compiled a HD video in Nero Vision which filled the disc to near full capacity, and then burned the resulting compilation with Nero Burning ROM.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK burned our 50GB BD-R media at 8x in 32 minutes and 31 seconds.

Let’s compare with some other Blu-ray burners below.

We don’t yet have much data for comparison purposes, but we can see that the Pioneer BDR-203BK wrote our BD-R 50GB the fastest.


BD-RE 50GB

For this test we compiled a HD video in Nero Vision which filled the disc to near full capacity, and then burned the resulting compilation with Nero Burning ROM.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK burned our test disc in 87 minutes and 53 seconds.

Let’s compare with some other Blu-ray burners below.

We don’t yet have much data for comparison purposes, but we can see that the Pioneer BDR-203BK wrote our BD-RE 50GB media the fastest.

Standalone DVD-Player compatibility test:

We only have 3 standalone DVD-Players available and 1 standalone DVD-RAM DVD-R recorder to test the DVD+R DL media (Book Type: DVD-ROM) and the DVD-R DL media (Book Type: DVD-R):      

  • Panasonic DVD-RV32
  • Panasonic SA-HT520
  • Proline DVDP350
  • Panasonic DMR-E50 recorder

Compatibility results, DVD Video:

All our DVD Standalone devices played the DVD+R DL media burned by the Pioneer BDR-203BK without any problems.

Only one DVD Standalone device would play the Pioneer BDR-203BK burned DVD-R DL media without any problems.

We would like to mention, that the compatibility issue with standalone DVD Players/Recorders and the DVD-R DL media format is caused by incompatibilities with the standalone devices used in this review, and not the Pioneer BDR-203BK or media format used.


Standalone Blu-ray Player compatibility test:

We decided to check that our resulting Blu-ray discs could play on a Blu-ray player. For this test, we used a Sony PS3.

Verbatim BD-R 50GB

No problems


Verbatim BD-R 50GB

No problems


CSS Encrypted DVD-Video ripping tests:

Most modern DVD burners don’t have Video riplock and in most cases will read a pressed DVD-Video SL disc at 16x speed. However, some drives use a CSS riplock when it comes to extracting data from the disc. If you attempt to rip a pressed DVD-Video with CSS encryption to your hard drive, then the ripping speed may be locked at a much lower speed than 16x.

To test this feature, we needed a reference from a drive that we know does not employ CSS riplock. We choose the Optiarc AD-7203A as a reference drive for this purpose and ripped a SL and DL pressed DVD-Video to our hard drive using DVDFab Platinum (full disc option).

We should point out, that ripping and compressing a DL DVD-Video disc to DVD 5 format is quite CPU intensive. The more power your system has, the less likely your system power will affect the results. The PC used in this review is equipped with a fast Intel Quad Core processor and fast hard drives. We checked to make sure our review PC was not having an impact on the results.

Below we can see our reference results.

SL CSS encrypted DVD Video disc “Goldeneye” (Optiarc AD-7203A reference result)

Time taken = 6m:12s

DL CSS encrypted DVD Video disc “The Green Mile” (Optiarc AD-7203A reference result)

Time taken = 12m:43s

 


Now let’s test the Pioneer BDR-203BK using the same testing procedures.

SL CSS encrypted DVD-Video (Goldeneye):

The Pioneer BDR-203BK is not CSS riplocked and ripped our test DVD-Video SL disc in 6 minutes and 1 second.

DL CSS encrypted DVD-Video (The Green Mile):

The Pioneer BDR-203BKis not CSS riplocked and ripped our test DVD-Video DL disc in 11 minutes and 54 seconds.

To compare with other drives, we present the table below.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK was fast when ripping our tested DVD-Video media. In fact, the Pioneer BDR-203BK was faster than many DVD burners.

Advanced tests:


To round off this review, we will run some advanced tests on the Pioneer BDR-203BK. These tests are: “Sheep Test”, and some special disc tests.

 

For this test, we will use the Sheep tests made by Alexander Noé. Why is it called sheep test? That’s because the logo of the first 1 to 1 copy program called CloneCD is a sheep. When looking at supported writers, you will notice that the feature list has sheep to indicate if a feature is supported or not. In this case we are interested in the writer’s ability to backup/write weak sectors. Also called: “Correct EFM encoding of regular bit-patterns”.

  • No sheep: Can’t backup any safedisc 2 versions without the help of software tricks
  • 1 Sheep: Can backup safedisc 2 up to version 2.4x without software tricks
  • 2 Sheep: Can backup safedisc 2, including version 2.5x
  • 3 Sheep: Can write all possible weak sectors, few if any writers could do this.

One of our forum moderators Womble; has written a guide concerning the “Sheep Test” that can be found here.

In the screenshot below taken from CloneCD, we see the Pioneer BDR-203BK supports everything.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK supports DAO-RAW96 recording mode, which basically means, it can write uncorrected data and sub-channel data.

Sheep 2.90

Sheep 3

As we can see from the results, the Pioneer BDR-203BK is a two sheep burner.


Overburning CD-R:

We tested the Pioneer BDR-203BK to see if it could overburn CD-R media. The results are below.

700MB (80 minute) over-burn test:

As we can see, the Pioneer BDR-203BK failed to overburn our test CD-R media, and the resulting disc was not readable.


MINI DVD discs:

In this section we are going to test if the Pioneer BDR-203BK is capable of writing and reading mini DVD-RW discs with a capacity of 30 minutes/1.46 GB.

The Memorex media is made by CMC Magnetics.  Thanks to Memorex Europe for sending us this media.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK had no problems in writing our test mini DVD-RW disc. Now let’s check if the Pioneer BDR-203BK can also read back our test disc.

The Pioneer BDR-203BK read back our test mini DVD-RW disc without any problems.

This concludes our Pioneer BDR-203BK review. To read the conclusion, click on the link below.

 

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14 Comments

guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 07 Apr 09 15:41
Price ?.
H3rB3i
Posts: 4026
Posted on: 08 Apr 09 08:56
Here in Europe and according to geizhals.at you can buy that drive starting at € 200,- http://geizhals.at/eu/a407628.html
This message was edited at: 08-04-2009 08:57
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 09 Apr 09 18:58
It\'s under $200 US at a few places. I could not get the BD Solutions to install. Kept telling me that it was for a Pioneer device only. Even though it showed as such in Device Manager.
photonic
Posts: 562
Posted on: 12 Apr 09 12:45
I already own this drive and I am happy with it!
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 14 Apr 09 16:53
Is it the Scandisk feature really useful to test the quality of the burn, or is it used simply because a surface scan (PI&PO, just like you do with dvds) is not possible? Thanks
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 14 May 09 09:07
Please advise what your comp minimum requirements are to run this Blu Ray burner. Many Thanks
Dee
Posts: 11995
Posted on: 16 May 09 15:36
There are no minimum requirements listed for this drive. if you intend to use the drive for watching Blu ray films on the PC, then a fairly powerful CPU and graphics card will be required. CPU Intel E6600 dual core duo of faster would be recommended. Graphics card: ATI 38xx series or faster. nVidia 8500 or faster. To burn BD movies at full speed, a relatively fast HDD will also be required. Any newish SATA drive should be fast enough. USB drives are not fast enough.
This message was edited at: 16-05-2009 15:38
Tommymang
Posts: 8
Posted on: 16 Jun 09 12:41
Have this drive for more than a week now. I am very pleased with it ! (Vista 32bit)
okokbe
Posts: 4
Posted on: 19 Jun 09 14:54
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rojozia
Posts: 2
Posted on: 12 Apr 10 15:44
I have a question, that I hope you can help me with. I have a Hewlett-Packard Pavillion dv5-1017nr. Will this BDR-203bk burner fit in it? The photos shown in this review make it look like it will only fit in a desktop computer.
Thanks
cvs
Posts: 1312
Posted on: 12 Apr 10 20:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by rojozia View Post
I have a question, that I hope you can help me with. I have a Hewlett-Packard Pavillion dv5-1017nr. Will this BDR-203bk burner fit in it? The photos shown in this review make it look like it will only fit in a desktop computer.
Thanks
The BDR-20x drives are all desktop drives (5.25" drives), so NO, they won't fit inside a notebook.

Given that there aren't many slim Blu-Ray writers around which one could fit in a laptop in the first place (and even less of them which can reliably burn even on high quality Blu-Ray media), you'll probably be much better off buying either an external Blu-Ray drive or an internal desktop version + a suitable USB/e-SATA enclosure which you can then connect to your laptop via either USB or e-SATA in order to burn Blu-Ray discs.
All in all it will be probably a cheaper and definitely a more reliable and future proof alternative anyway.

Pioneer drives and the latest 10x and 12x LG drives are the only drives worth buying based on their burn performance. Stay away from others (as well as earlier 6x and 8x LG models) which are quite poor.

If you only need a slim Blu-Ray READER for your laptop (instead of a much more expensive Blu-Ray writer), then there's quite a bit of choice available. Stay well away from MatSHITa drives and be aware that firmware support is generally very poor for these drives. I recommend an LG CT10 BD-ROM drive which is pretty much the only drive out there which currently can be easily flashed with different OEM firmware.
rojozia
Posts: 2
Posted on: 12 Apr 10 22:35
CVS - Thx for all the info. I do need a burner, not just a player, for my notebook. So ... since I probably don't have enough computer smarts to piece together a high quality internal drive to an enclosure and make it work, I'm thinking that I'd like to buy a reliable, external burner. The one that appears the best to to me (at least in the 'reasonable affordability' category is, the

LACIE d2 8X BD-R 2X BD-RE 8X

Do you believe this would be a fairly reliable external BD-R burner? Do have any other specific recommendations? I read that the Buffalo external driver isn't that great.

Thank you again for your help
_chef_
Posts: 29852
Posted on: 13 Apr 10 09:32
Slimtype burners are a waste of time and money, kinda all of them.
Half-height drives are reliable.
cvs
Posts: 1312
Posted on: 14 Apr 10 01:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by rojozia View Post
CVS - Thx for all the info. I do need a burner, not just a player, for my notebook. So ... since I probably don't have enough computer smarts to piece together a high quality internal drive to an enclosure and make it work, I'm thinking that I'd like to buy a reliable, external burner. The one that appears the best to to me (at least in the 'reasonable affordability' category is, the

LACIE d2 8X BD-R 2X BD-RE 8X

Do you believe this would be a fairly reliable external BD-R burner? Do have any other specific recommendations? I read that the Buffalo external driver isn't that great.

Thank you again for your help
I do not know which 8x drive Lacie is using in their external burner ... might be a Matshita/Panasonic one or an LG one ... in which case you should stay well away.

For their 8x internal drives Buffalo uses both Matshita (Panasonic) drives (models starting with the BR-816 identifier), LG drives (models starting with BR-H816) and Pioneer drives (models starting with BR-PI816).
The problem is that as far as I know they only have 8x external models based on either Matshita (BR-816SU2) or LG (BR-H816SU2, BRHC-6316U2), but not on Pioneer (the BR-PI816SU2 does not exist). Matshita drives are a complete disaster regardless of speed and model, and the 6x or 8x LG drives are quite poor, so you should stay away of both.

If you can find a 10x or 12x external drive, then things are much easier, since the drive inside of those would be either LG or Pioneer and both are very good burners.

The best and probably much cheaper option is to bite the bullet and go for a DIY solution (drive + enclosure). Once you choose the right enclosure (there are several threads around suggesting good ones) it is quite easy to assemble them, so you should really not be put off by the apparent complexity of the task ... you just need to connect the drive using the SATA and power connectors provided in the enclosure, fix the drive in place with a few screws and then mount the enclosure's cover back on ... it is really as simple as that!

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