Pioneer BDR-203BK Blu ray burner review

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Dee
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Article posted 05 Apr 09 14:04

CD-R/RW Writing performance

  

The specifications of the Pioneer BDR-203BK state that the drive is able to write CD-R/RW discs at 32x/24x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.

Writing Data CD-R discs:


Write quality:


We will test CD-R discs from many different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the “create data CD” function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used Nero CD-Speed’s Disc Quality Scan and combined this with a Transfer Rate Test to test if the resulting disc was readable. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On SOHR-5238S drive with firmware 4S09 and scanned the discs at 48X speed.

There is more than one way to handle C1 and C2 error detection/correction, but a simple and common way is to detect and correct up to two errors per frame in each stage and detect three or more errors:

  • E11: 1 error detected and corrected by C1 layer
  • E21: 2 errors detected and corrected by C1 layer
  • E31: 3 or more errors detected but not corrected by C1 layer

The sum of these (per second) is called the Block Error Rate: BLER=E11+E21+E31

  • E32: 3 or more errors detected but not corrected by C2 layer

Any E31 is un-correctable by the C1 layer and will result in the bytes in that frame being redistributed into multiple frames which are passed to the C2 layer.

Any E32 is un-correctable by the C2 layer and will result in interpolation being used for Audio CDs or will result in third layer error correction being used for Data CDs.

Different drives have different ways of reporting these errors in a Disc Quality scan.  Lite-On CD-RW drives will report C1 and C2 errors this way:

  • C1=BLER=E11+E21+E31
  • C2=E32

Here is an easier way to look at Disc Quality Scanning:

A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive’s error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive’s error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 averages for good quality discs. After C2 errors, there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.

In short, our analysis will be based on this guideline to determine the quality of the burned disc:

Below are the obtained results:

An excellent result to start our CD-R quality tests.


Our RICOH media manufactured by Moser Baer India has burned with very good quality.


 

Another excellent result.


We have another excellent result.


The result is good.

The result is very good.

Summary:

With the Pioneer BDR-203BK writing CD-R/RW at a maximum speed of only 32x/24x, the drive is not the fastest at writing CD-R/RW discs. However, the writing quality is excellent in most cases.

Now let’s head on to the next page where we will test DVD recordable performance….
 

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14 Comments

guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 07 Apr 09 15:41
Price ?.
H3rB3i
Posts: 4026
Posted on: 08 Apr 09 08:56
Here in Europe and according to geizhals.at you can buy that drive starting at € 200,- http://geizhals.at/eu/a407628.html
This message was edited at: 08-04-2009 08:57
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 09 Apr 09 18:58
It\'s under $200 US at a few places. I could not get the BD Solutions to install. Kept telling me that it was for a Pioneer device only. Even though it showed as such in Device Manager.
photonic
Posts: 562
Posted on: 12 Apr 09 12:45
I already own this drive and I am happy with it!
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 14 Apr 09 16:53
Is it the Scandisk feature really useful to test the quality of the burn, or is it used simply because a surface scan (PI&PO, just like you do with dvds) is not possible? Thanks
guest
Posts: 15284
Posted on: 14 May 09 09:07
Please advise what your comp minimum requirements are to run this Blu Ray burner. Many Thanks
Dee
Posts: 11995
Posted on: 16 May 09 15:36
There are no minimum requirements listed for this drive. if you intend to use the drive for watching Blu ray films on the PC, then a fairly powerful CPU and graphics card will be required. CPU Intel E6600 dual core duo of faster would be recommended. Graphics card: ATI 38xx series or faster. nVidia 8500 or faster. To burn BD movies at full speed, a relatively fast HDD will also be required. Any newish SATA drive should be fast enough. USB drives are not fast enough.
This message was edited at: 16-05-2009 15:38
Tommymang
Posts: 8
Posted on: 16 Jun 09 12:41
Have this drive for more than a week now. I am very pleased with it ! (Vista 32bit)
okokbe
Posts: 4
Posted on: 19 Jun 09 14:54
[spam]
rojozia
Posts: 2
Posted on: 12 Apr 10 15:44
I have a question, that I hope you can help me with. I have a Hewlett-Packard Pavillion dv5-1017nr. Will this BDR-203bk burner fit in it? The photos shown in this review make it look like it will only fit in a desktop computer.
Thanks
cvs
Posts: 1312
Posted on: 12 Apr 10 20:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by rojozia View Post
I have a question, that I hope you can help me with. I have a Hewlett-Packard Pavillion dv5-1017nr. Will this BDR-203bk burner fit in it? The photos shown in this review make it look like it will only fit in a desktop computer.
Thanks
The BDR-20x drives are all desktop drives (5.25" drives), so NO, they won't fit inside a notebook.

Given that there aren't many slim Blu-Ray writers around which one could fit in a laptop in the first place (and even less of them which can reliably burn even on high quality Blu-Ray media), you'll probably be much better off buying either an external Blu-Ray drive or an internal desktop version + a suitable USB/e-SATA enclosure which you can then connect to your laptop via either USB or e-SATA in order to burn Blu-Ray discs.
All in all it will be probably a cheaper and definitely a more reliable and future proof alternative anyway.

Pioneer drives and the latest 10x and 12x LG drives are the only drives worth buying based on their burn performance. Stay away from others (as well as earlier 6x and 8x LG models) which are quite poor.

If you only need a slim Blu-Ray READER for your laptop (instead of a much more expensive Blu-Ray writer), then there's quite a bit of choice available. Stay well away from MatSHITa drives and be aware that firmware support is generally very poor for these drives. I recommend an LG CT10 BD-ROM drive which is pretty much the only drive out there which currently can be easily flashed with different OEM firmware.
rojozia
Posts: 2
Posted on: 12 Apr 10 22:35
CVS - Thx for all the info. I do need a burner, not just a player, for my notebook. So ... since I probably don't have enough computer smarts to piece together a high quality internal drive to an enclosure and make it work, I'm thinking that I'd like to buy a reliable, external burner. The one that appears the best to to me (at least in the 'reasonable affordability' category is, the

LACIE d2 8X BD-R 2X BD-RE 8X

Do you believe this would be a fairly reliable external BD-R burner? Do have any other specific recommendations? I read that the Buffalo external driver isn't that great.

Thank you again for your help
_chef_
Posts: 29852
Posted on: 13 Apr 10 09:32
Slimtype burners are a waste of time and money, kinda all of them.
Half-height drives are reliable.
cvs
Posts: 1312
Posted on: 14 Apr 10 01:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by rojozia View Post
CVS - Thx for all the info. I do need a burner, not just a player, for my notebook. So ... since I probably don't have enough computer smarts to piece together a high quality internal drive to an enclosure and make it work, I'm thinking that I'd like to buy a reliable, external burner. The one that appears the best to to me (at least in the 'reasonable affordability' category is, the

LACIE d2 8X BD-R 2X BD-RE 8X

Do you believe this would be a fairly reliable external BD-R burner? Do have any other specific recommendations? I read that the Buffalo external driver isn't that great.

Thank you again for your help
I do not know which 8x drive Lacie is using in their external burner ... might be a Matshita/Panasonic one or an LG one ... in which case you should stay well away.

For their 8x internal drives Buffalo uses both Matshita (Panasonic) drives (models starting with the BR-816 identifier), LG drives (models starting with BR-H816) and Pioneer drives (models starting with BR-PI816).
The problem is that as far as I know they only have 8x external models based on either Matshita (BR-816SU2) or LG (BR-H816SU2, BRHC-6316U2), but not on Pioneer (the BR-PI816SU2 does not exist). Matshita drives are a complete disaster regardless of speed and model, and the 6x or 8x LG drives are quite poor, so you should stay away of both.

If you can find a 10x or 12x external drive, then things are much easier, since the drive inside of those would be either LG or Pioneer and both are very good burners.

The best and probably much cheaper option is to bite the bullet and go for a DIY solution (drive + enclosure). Once you choose the right enclosure (there are several threads around suggesting good ones) it is quite easy to assemble them, so you should really not be put off by the apparent complexity of the task ... you just need to connect the drive using the SATA and power connectors provided in the enclosure, fix the drive in place with a few screws and then mount the enclosure's cover back on ... it is really as simple as that!

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